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sikpuppy

Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 433
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Posted: Sat 14 Nov 2009, 08:44 Post subject:
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$26,001? Tell him he's dreaming.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Sat 14 Nov 2009, 09:06 Post subject:
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| ttuuxxx wrote: |
lol you make that sound like I had much time, lol |
No,... I was just wondering!
As a matter of fact I did but I didn't keep with it. Hence the wondering
| Quote: | | I need a working base, Dpup has compiling issues, that Gposil does say is ironed out for the next release due at the end of the month, but really I need some sort packages/control over the build, I could edit the sfs files, but really what I should use is a woof version where I have 100% control. |
Then why not 2.14X ? Assuming that can work with any of the 2.6.25 XO kernels
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Mon 16 Nov 2009, 08:55 Post subject:
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| mavrothal wrote: |
Then why not 2.14X ? Assuming that can work with any of the 2.6.25 XO kernels |
2.14X uses 2.6.18.1 kernel, so it would be too old.
testing another base If all works well, I'll try compiling the kernel this weekend.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48984
ttuuxxx
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Sun 29 Nov 2009, 03:48 Post subject:
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And now time for the weekly harassment
"Are we there yet?" (hey,... is a kids' computer, what did you expect? )
Did anything compiled yet, or you are drinking margaritas in summer the sunset?
pup460 looks solid, 2series reached RC and dpup its final(?) beta!
You have to plan for your future now that you are young!...
(sorry, is a beautifully day and I felt naughty )
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun 29 Nov 2009, 03:58 Post subject:
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| mavrothal wrote: | And now time for the weekly harassment
"Are we there yet?" (hey,... is a kids' computer, what did you expect? )
Did anything compiled yet, or you are drinking margaritas in summer the sunset?
pup460 looks solid, 2series reached RC and dpup its final(?) beta!
You have to plan for your future now that you are young!...
(sorry, is a beautifully day and I felt naughty ) |
I've compiled the kernel and interbreeding it with 2.14X right now almost done.
ttuuxxx
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun 29 Nov 2009, 05:37 Post subject:
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| mavrothal wrote: | | ttuuxxx wrote: | Thanks for the images Raffy, I managed to get it 50% apart and then came across mavrothal input, lol
Ok mavrothal how to I change the bios so it boot with SD card under the monitor. I don't see any bios options when booting.
ttuuxxx |
No BIOS
XO is using OFW (see previous page).
Basically the OFW looks in order to the USB, SDcard, Internal NAND to find a /boot folder and an olpc.fth file within this folder and does whatever this olpc.fth file is telling it. Basically 3 things, what is the root partition and its file system, the path to vmlinuz and the path to initrd (if used).
Here is my olpc.fth located in the SDcard that will boot Ubuntu from the SDcard if the "O" game key is pressed, and Fedora/Suagr from the NAND if not.
/boot/olpc.fth (in the SDcard)
| Code: | \ Boot script
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\ overclock first
\
7de009e
5dd
4c000014
wrmsr
\
\ end of overclock
\
\ boot option
\
game-key-mask h# 80 and if
" ro root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootfstype=ext2 console=tty0 fbcon=font:SUN12x22 video=fb:1200x900 loglevel=3 splash" to boot-file
" sd:\boot\vmlinuz" to boot-device
" sd:\boot\olpcrd.img" to ramdisk
else
\ original teapot's version
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\ " ro root=mtd0 rootfstype=jffs2 console=tty0 fbcon=font:SUN12x22" to boot-file
\ " nand:\boot\vmlinuz" to boot-device
\ " nand:\boot\olpcrd.img" to ramdisk
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\ f11-xo1 vesion
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" root=/dev/mtdblock0 rootfstype=jffs2 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 fbcon=font:SUN12x22 selinux=0" to boot-file
" nand:\boot\vmlinuz" to boot-device
" nand:\boot\initrd.img" to ramdisk
setup-smbios
unfreeze
dcon-unfreeze
visible
then
boot |
The commented out "original version" is for booting F9-based/os802 (the one that came with the XO). The other is for F11-based system.
Now, the "setup-smbios" you need to simulate a "normal" BIOS. The unfreeze etc is so you get to see the console during boot.
Setting console, fonts, etc is not nessecary but good to have before you know you do not need...
( I hope you noticed the "overclock" )
look here for more OFW and here for a booting specifically
PS: If you copy/paste my olpc.fth file make sure there is no <return> in the long lines that look-like they are braking. The lines that end with: to boot-file. Should be in one line. |
I'm reading this file over and well its a bit confusing when thinking img's, puppy doesn't do img by default it uses iso files, do you have a script that would work with puppy, say like for a frugal sd install ?
these are the files that are in 2.14X
boot.cat
boot.msg
f2
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
pup_214X.sfs
vmlinuz
zdrv_214X.sfs
ttuuxxx
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Sun 29 Nov 2009, 15:10 Post subject:
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| ttuuxxx wrote: |
I'm reading this file over and well its a bit confusing when thinking img's, puppy doesn't do img by default it uses iso files, do you have a script that would work with puppy, say like for a frugal sd install ?
these are the files that are in 2.14X
ttuuxxx |
All OFW does is to load initrd (compressed or not) vmlinuz and set the root file system. Then you are on your own.
OFW reads the /boot/olpc.fth file in the devices in the order USB, SDcard, internal NAND and executes the first it finds.
So here is a simple olpc.fth file. Assuming that the iso content is copied to a USB stick that will load in /dev/sda1 and that the olpc.fth file is in the boot folder at the root of the stick.
| Code: | \ Boot script
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" ro root=/dev/sda1 rootfstype=vfat console=tty0 fbcon=font:SUN12x22 video=fb:1200x900" to boot-file
" u:\vmlinuz" to boot-device
" u:\olpcrd.gz" to ramdisk
setup-smbios
unfreeze
dcon-unfreeze
visible
boot |
OFW accepts iso, fat, vfat, ext2 and ext3 boot files and compressed or uncompressed initrd and vmlinuz. However I believe it does _not_ decompress lzma. (So basically it can not open the vmlinuz you provide with the xo-1.iso).
I would say that for start is better to go with a full install on a stick and include the olpc.fth file in the boot folder.
There are scripts that can copy fedora-based iso boot disks to the XO internal NAND with variable success. Check the iso-to-dosk scripts from here.
More latter.
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quickboot
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed 02 Dec 2009, 17:32 Post subject:
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Just cheering on all of your efforts to get Puppy running on the XO! Thrilled to stumble on this thread and see hope!
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Fri 11 Dec 2009, 05:24 Post subject:
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There is a start
Is not rally working but is nice to see the puppy logo on the OLPC XO-1
Just some info about it in case someone has some ideas.
This is running from a USB sticks that boots and runs the olpc kernel 2.6.31 version xo1-20091208.1634.1.olpc.7a5228e.i586 patched with unionfs and recompiled to include unionfs, suqashfs and hfsplus (so I can connect my iPod ) support, and a manual (copy sfs content) full install of playdayz' uPup
The xorgwizard does not really recognizes the hardware. I just manually entered the screen refresh rates (30-68 hor, 48-52 ver) and on "test" dropped me back to console.
From there typing "xwin" gave me this screen! The Xorg.log shows that everything is configured appropriately for the XO-1 screen).
The keyboard kind-of works but the mouse is dead.
XO keyboard and mouse in Fedora use the evdev driver with these options
| Code: | Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "ATKbd"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Name" "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"
Option "evBits" "+1"
Option "keyBits" "~1-255 ~352-511"
Option "Pass" "2"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard"
Driver "evdev"
Option "evBits" "+1"
Option "keyBits" "~1-115 ~117-255"
Option "Pass" "3"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse"
Driver "evdev"
Option "evBits" "+1-2"
Option "keyBits" "~272-287"
Option "Pass" "3"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "GS"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Name" "OLPC ALPS GlideSensor"
Option "evBits" "+1 +3"
Option "keyBits" "~272-287"
Option "absBits" "~0-2 ~24"
Option "Pass" "2"
Option "Mode" "Relative"
EndSection |
and the evdev driver is included in the build. However, when I manually edit the xorg.conf with these settings it fails to load.
Running the xorgwizard again gives me the original xorg.config and here we go again...
I guess my question is does puppy keeps the configured xorg.conf somewhere else? and if not how do I edit xorg.conf and make it stick?
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri 11 Dec 2009, 05:35 Post subject:
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Hi my main questions is what is the size?
I'm thinking around 90MB iso should be the starting point. I know it XO doesn't use iso's but If it was a iso.
ttuuxxx.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Fri 11 Dec 2009, 05:47 Post subject:
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| ttuuxxx wrote: | Hi my main questions is what is the size?
I'm thinking around 90MB iso should be the starting point. I know it XO doesn't use iso's but If it was a iso.
ttuuxxx. |
As it stands should be ~150MB. 126MB for the uPup minus its initrd and vmlinuz plus the XO /boot folder and the OLPC kernel. Of course the uPup kernel could be removed and probably many xorg drivers and other things. But I doubt it could go to 90MB.
Any idea about the xorg.conf, xorgwizard?
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fsabatino
Joined: 23 Sep 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay
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Posted: Fri 11 Dec 2009, 07:38 Post subject:
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Mavrothal and ttuuxxx,
You have absolutely NO idea the level of hope this brings to sooooo many people here in Uruguay... ok.. I'll speak for myself... it brings to me.
Please keep up the tremendous work.
Thank you for your time, and thanks for shifting your collective intelligence into this project!
We patiently look forward to more updates.
Fer
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Fri 11 Dec 2009, 08:19 Post subject:
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fsabatino
ttuuxxx and the other puppy developers are the "intelligence"! I'm just "cheerleading"
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fsabatino
Joined: 23 Sep 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay
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Posted: Fri 11 Dec 2009, 08:39 Post subject:
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Hey Mavrothal, I've read your posts.. you are not a cheerleader!!
Be that as it may... to all of you, please continue. This will change the XO mindset worldwide. You guys are aware of that, right?
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raffy
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4639 Location: Manila
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Posted: Fri 11 Dec 2009, 08:50 Post subject:
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I understand that quirky has the same advanced kernel version as playdayz' upup? Have you tried it?
Will it be easier for the interested parties (Uruguay govt, for example) to change the BIOS of the XO? I can help access contacts in Taiwan for this.
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