Dpup482-beta5 testing

[Béèm]

Can someone with a thinkpad(other than me), confirm that acpitool -s puts it to sleep...if it does, you just bind that command to Fn F4..

Guy,
acpitool -s puts my R40 to sleep. I have said it before.
But how do I do this bind?
Not very familiar with that.

[Béèm]

There is a program in the Lenny repo called tpb which is supposed to handle Thinkpad Special Keys...

Cheers
Guy

Installed it.
But don't see well how to use it.

[Jim1911]

I didn't have that happen on my two computers. First start settings held through session, and after reboot. Do you mean the time zone and network settings? Both held for me. I didn't change the other defaults. So if you meant wbar or numlock, I didn't test them.

Yes, wbar and numlock settings are what I was referring to, sorry that I didn't make that clear. Both reverted back to original default settings. Network and printer settings did fine.

@musher0, No other pup that I am aware of has anything similar to dpup's "First start wizard" where you can do initial setup and change default values, so where else should this be posted?

Cheers,
Jim

[Béèm]

F.E. puppy 4.3.1 has this setup sequence:
keyb selection
locale selection
time zone selection
X selection

How about that?

[ralphv]

To understand the dirty shutdown problem this thread goes into detail:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?&t=40715

I think it's one of the most important threads on the forum.

Interesting thread. When an ext2 partition uncleanly unmounts, e2fsck says so but finds no errors. When I run e2fsck on the pup_save, which is now in a clean ext3 partition, I get a bunch of errors, even after shutting down just once.

Have yet to try pfix=fsck. I tried the pmedia=ataflash, didn't help.

Ralph

[Shep]

I'm on dialup, download will take about 8 hrs, so that makes for around 500 reconnection attempts by poor ol' wget

Suggestion: It would be useful if the md5sums (or links to them) were shown on the dpup.org homepage alongside the download links.

I went looking and found the md5sums, but not until I'd burnt the CD and given the retro pup a run. Performance of its dialer, and the audio player were so disappointing that I hoped it would be accounted for by errors in the .iso, but, alas, it turns out to be a perfect copy. May be some errors in the CD but I burnt at slowest allowable speed to prelude errors.

Will try again.

[vtpup]

There is a program in the Lenny repo called tpb which is supposed to handle Thinkpad Special Keys...

Can someone with a thinkpad(other than me), confirm that acpitool -s puts it to sleep...if it does, you just bind that command to Fn F4..

I tried tpb, but it seemed to require a number of dependencies I wasn't sure of, downloaded a few, they had others, and I stopped. I did try it in a terminal and read the man page, but I couldn't get it to go with what I had. Guess I'll wait for apt to handle the deps.

In answer to the second question gposil, on a T30 specifically it puts the computer in sleep mode except it leaves the backlight on. That no longer responds to the case close switch, so it stays on even if you close the case. This makes acpitool -s basically non-functional.

This is a known fault of the program w/t30 Thinkpads.

BTW I upgraded the BIOS to the latest, and there is no change in the function key problems.

[01micko]

Hi all,

I've been playing again with icewm.

Did anyone notice sometimes the little black window in the top left? I wasn't getting it in beta 4 but I am now. It seems it is due to absvolume. Now absvolume is loaded in '.xinitrc' about midway through. The only way I can think of to kill it is to add a line killing it before and only before Icewm loads, it must be specific for icewm or it might bork other wms. Now some start icewm with just "icewm", but the scripts I've used from 4.2x use "icewm-session". To keep those happy that may want to start with just "icewm" (they could have their reasons, I don't know) I am testing "/etc/windowmanager" for just "ice".. that covers both. Of course absvolume gets reloaded a few seconds later. I suppose I could stop it from loading all together.. for icewm. Maybe later.

WARNING. If you try the following please make a backup of your /root/.xinitrc script. No responsibility accepted if things go pear shaped. You've been warned.

Insert this code into .xinitrc after the 'numlockx' call and before the "CURRENTWM" call... straight under the commment..

#exec $CURRENTWM
#v2.11 GuestToo suggested this improvement...

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CURRENTWMTEST=` cat /etc/windowmanager | head -c 3`
if [ "$CURRENTWMTEST" = "ice" ]; then 
killall absvolume
fi

RTFW! (w = warning)

Cheers

Mick

[Béèm]

There is a program in the Lenny repo called tpb which is supposed to handle Thinkpad Special Keys...

Can someone with a thinkpad(other than me), confirm that acpitool -s puts it to sleep...if it does, you just bind that command to Fn F4..

I tried tpb, but it seemed to require a number of dependencies I wasn't sure of, downloaded a few, they had others, and I stopped. I did try it in a terminal and read the man page, but I couldn't get it to go with what I had. Guess I'll wait for apt to handle the deps.

I installed with all the dependencies. Wasn't that much.

In answer to the second question gposil, on a T30 specifically it puts the computer in sleep mode except it leaves the backlight on. That no longer responds to the case close switch, so it stays on even if you close the case. This makes acpitool -s basically non-functional.

Hmm have to look better if the backlight is off. But it seems so

BTW I upgraded the BIOS to the latest, and there is no change in the function key problems.

Is there a way to go back in case of failure. f.e. by booting from CD? (as there is no diskette station physically.)

[gposil]

Guys...

The Dpup repository on ibiblio, for PPM is now up and running. To update your Dpup PPM just download the following file and put it in /root/.packages. Make sure you have puppy-5-official selected in PPM as one of your repositories.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 5-official

It is a good idea to regularly update this file from ibiblio, so you have up to date packages available...

Cheers
Guy

[vtpup]

Is there a way to go back in case of failure. f.e. by booting from CD? (as there is no diskette station physically.)

Check the lenovo docs for installation procedure for your exact model, and whether earlier BIOS versions are available and restorable. If available and your computer boots, it usually can be done. In my case, the T30 BIOS update ran from a file in c: on XP, which I can dual boot to, not from a floppy.. I definitely wouldn't suggest doing it until you get new ram. That could indeed make your laptop into a paperweight.

[Béèm]

Yes, best to get that single bit error out of the way to start with.

[vtpup]

gposil,

I tried tpb again because I forgot we could install .debs from the puppy package manager I had earlier tried to look up and install the tpb package .deb and dependencies by hand from the debian website.

After removing the earlier attempt and re-installing from PPM, I was able to get tpb to work, in that I could get an onscreen display of the minor function and special keys which already worked (speaker volume, mute, lcd brightness, zoom, etc). But there was no change with the sleep suspend or LCD on/off major fn functions.

I did run tpb in verbose mode from terminal. It seemed to have no reaction to pressing the important function buttons. This leads me to wonder if these keypress combinations are actually being detected at all. That would be at a lower level than tpb operates, I believe. I will try to look into this more. Maybe it means doing more work with the keyboard selection options.

Anyway, wanted to give you a more detailed report of "tpb doesn't work". It seems to work, but not in the way we want, so far.

[Béèm]

That seems to be my experience on tpb as well.
I just came across this acpid pet, but don't know if it will work.
As I am on the desktop now, I can't try it.

[vtpup]

gposil,

I've tried the following script to try to use acpitools -s to suspend, and xrandr to turn off the backlight:

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#!/bin/sh
xrandr --output LVDS --off
acpitool -s
xrandr --output LVDS --auto

Unfortunately it works in sequence, but the actions don't carry through.

It turns off the display, then executes acpitool -s, but that turns the backlight on again. Then it suspends with the backlight on.

When I hit the fn f4 key to resume, it does resume and the last line does properly enable the display again.

Any suggestions, anybody?

[Jim1911]

@01micko,

Small problem with wbar: Any change to wbar breaks the Control Panel icon because /root/.wbar/usr/bin/pcp3 gets overwritten with "pcp2" when it's updated.

Jim

[CatDude]

Hi

Here is a slightly edited version of the xmms/BMP skin that ttuuxxx posted on page 5 of this thread,
i figured it just had to be done (sorry ttuuxxx).

CatDude
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[dejan555]

Hey afgs made a neat logo for dpup, maybe use it to replace debian's?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 934#367934

[CatDude]

Hello dejan

Hey afgs made a neat logo for dpup, maybe use it to replace debian's?

Consider it done mate.

I must admit, it does not reduce down very well though.

[dejan555]

Hmm, yeah it doesn't look bad though, thanks!