Dpup482-beta5 testing

[Béèm]

Guys...

The Dpup repository on ibiblio, for PPM is now up and running. To update your Dpup PPM just download the following file and put it in /root/.packages. Make sure you have puppy-5-official selected in PPM as one of your repositories.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 5-official

It is a good idea to regularly update this file from ibiblio, so you have up to date packages available...

Cheers
Guy

I don't think you referenced that url in the other thread.
I redid the operation on my thinpad (took one hour) and I have the wine 1.1.33 now.

[Béèm]

Guys...

The Dpup repository on ibiblio, for PPM is now up and running. To update your Dpup PPM just download the following file and put it in /root/.packages. Make sure you have puppy-5-official selected in PPM as one of your repositories.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 5-official

It is a good idea to regularly update this file from ibiblio, so you have up to date packages available...

Cheers
Guy

I don't think you referenced that url in the other thread.
I redid the operation on my thinpad (took one hour) and I have the wine 1.1.33 now.

hmm
I converted the pet to a sfs (in dpup)
It doesn't load after having selected it in the boot mgr.

[plankenstein]

@dejan555,

Absolutely LOVE that dpup logo! I'm going to have to work that into background or something . That is, as soon as I get through moving and can get back playing with my puppies again. Till then. I'll just have to keep lurking from work when I can

[01micko]

@01micko,

Small problem with wbar: Any change to wbar breaks the Control Panel icon because /root/.wbar/usr/bin/pcp3 gets overwritten with "pcp2" when it's updated.

Jim

Thanks Jim

Patch now available

See first page of this thread

[gposil]

To All Dpup devs...and interested parties.

Could you guys give me a list of pets we want at the ibiblio Dpup PPM repository...Check what is there now...

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ackages-5/

Cheers
Guy

[James C]

Just installed the latest wbar patch.......control panel icon now works....

[01micko]

James

Thanks for verifying the patch. I just added a comment that you need to restart from the Configuration gui for it to work.

gposil

Over the weekend I'll be refining the Icewm package including fixing one annoyance. The separate shutdown scripts for Icewm and Jwm can't be called from the "Shutdown" button in Wbar, I'll see what I can do about that. Also, can you put that little fix I wrote for Icewm , regarding 'absvolume', in ".xinitrc" for the next version, or if you come up with a better idea run it by me . I'll also refine the themes, maybe someone wants a theme included? Anyone wanting a theme included let me know before this Sunday, remember, it must be light weight. I also fixed the "Quicklaunch" button calling the new screeny utility and the xscreensaver. The old screenshot utility is still there too by the way. Also added icon paths so geany icon now docks in the taskbar when minimised.

Once all that is done then Icewm will be ready for the repo.

Cheers

[gposil]

Thanks guys, for all the good feedback...

Has anyone done any more testing on jrb's SFS-Linker...I think it has to be in Dpup if we can get it right. The ability to load and unload SFS's on the fly will add a completely new dimension...

CatDude and dejan555...thanks...

[musher0]

Thanks guys, for all the good feedback...

Has anyone done any more testing on jrb's SFS-Linker...I think it has to be in Dpup if we can get it right. The ability to load and unload SFS's on the fly will add a completely new dimension...

CatDude and dejan555...thanks...

I guess I somehow prompted jrb to modify it for us...
See here, 1st post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 30&t=46626

In Dpup, one would use the SFS_Linker-no_def-1.1.pet, rather than the linker for Puppy 4.3x. The latter ran over most of our default* in /usr/local/bin. The "no-def" version leaves them alone. I checked and the "no-def" version worked fine for one of coolpup's openoffice sfs. Can't vouch for any other of those specially made sfs's, though.

[gposil]

I have put a copy of SFS-Linker here, so people can grab it for testing...

[musher0]

Hi all,

I've been playing again with icewm.

Did anyone notice sometimes the little black window in the top left? I wasn't getting it in beta 4 but I am now. It seems it is due to absvolume. Now absvolume is loaded in '.xinitrc' about midway through. The only way I can think of to kill it is to add a line killing it before and only before Icewm loads, it must be specific for icewm or it might bork other wms. [...]

Cheers

Mick

Hi, Mick, and anybody interested.

Just the record, you can use your famous one-liner
` cat /etc/windowmanager | head -c 3`
in a special script in Startup for particular wm's, if you have more than one wm. It could be used to launch various companion programs for a wm. For example, I use this, which is triggered when echinus is launched:

-=-=-=-=-
#!/bin/bash
# demarre_echinus.sh, dans / in Startup
# Pour appui à echinus

CURRENTWM=""
CURRENTWM=`cat /etc/windowmanager | head -c 3`

if [ "$CURRENTWM" = "ech" ];then
rox -t=en-haut &
rox -p=/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/echinusPin &
sleep 1.5s
/usr/local/bin/ourico &
sleep 1s
[...]

fi
-=-=-=-=-

I have one for pekwm, one for jwm, etc. I try to fiddle as less as possible with BK's .xinitrc, and I discovered this was a handy work-around. I'm talking in general terms here, of course.

In icewm, maybe you could put icewm's own startup file to good use (at ~/.icewm/startup). Just a thought.

Good luck!

[vtpup]

A couple of small things:

1.) I had some oddness occuring with the Puppy Package Manager, but it seems to have straightened itself out. I recently updated the program lists and ended up with two puppy 3s and puppy 2, and two of the lenny repositories. I really wanted puppy 5,4, qnd 3, and the two lennys. So I ticked the appropriate checkboxes, and hit okay.

But instead, I only got puppy 2 and the two lennys. Closing and re-starting the PPM made no difference. I closed it again, and did some studying in the browser on graphics problems. Later opened the PPM and now it showed the right repos.

I don't know how to give steps to reproduce that error. Or why it took awhile to correct itself.

2.) Firefox now opens in "Chromifox Basic" Theme. This theme seems to lack a "Recent Pages" function. It just single steps back with the "Go Back One Page" button.

If I switch to the "Default" theme, the "Recent Pages" button (triangle, or twistie) is available again.

[vtpup]

To All Dpup devs...and interested parties.

Could you guys give me a list of pets we want at the ibiblio Dpup PPM repository...Check what is there now...

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ackages-5/

Cheers
Guy

Seamonkey
VLC
K3b
vmware player
Unison (heh, well, naturally)
Wacom
Qcad

[01micko]

Hi musher0

Glad you could make use of that snippet of code

Ah, the icewm bug.. it really makes little difference where the call is made from, be it ~/Startup or the ~/.icewm/startup script.. the problem still arises. That little window appears. And it's difficult to get rid of! Hiding it is a workaround but not a solution. The actual call of "icewm-session" is from .xinitrc.

That little window has been a problem for me, and some others for a long time in puppy. Sometimes it would appear, sometimes not. If you had a heavyweight theme it would slow down loading of Icewm and it wouldn't appear, switch to a light one and it's back. Always perplexed me. Work arounds with sleeps and such often would appear to fix the issue. I tought it was gone when I compiled icewm on beta 4, but it's not really an icewm bug, it's a Puppy bug.

I discovered the fix quite by accident, and if gposil didn't change the absvolume icon I would not have discovered it.. absvolume loads faster with the lighter icon, it appears before the icewm tray is killed... got me thinking.. is that the app behind that window? It certainly seems so but it is difficult (for me anyway ) to prove, so I used the "trial and error" method !!! Well now I have no little black window and no other problems with icewm.

Actually, there is a bug in .xinitrc that I just discovered... (thanks Christian ), whoever wrote the code is testing for "icewm" in /etc/windowmanager... as we've been through, it could be "icewm" or "icewm-session". The script then goes on to execute either 'fbpanel' and 'lxpanel' (lucky they aren't present) even if "icewm-session" is the output of "cat /etc/windowmanager".. better inform the powers that be... gposil? Reading this?

I'll let technosaurus know too.

Cheers

[01micko]

To All Dpup devs...and interested parties.

Could you guys give me a list of pets we want at the ibiblio Dpup PPM repository...Check what is there now...

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ackages-5/

Cheers
Guy

Seamonkey
VLC
K3b
vmware player
Unison (heh, well, naturally)
Wacom
Qcad

.. since we have 'dbus', we would want a seamonkey with dbus support... yeah? And a menu entry

[Jim1911]

Thoroughly enjoying the speed, stability, and new features such as the ease of customization. Testing is still in progress.

Minor problems:
1. After changes/additions to dpup and a reboot, all icons return to the desktop. This clutters up the desktop and covers part of wbar. Icons can be removed by using Re-run First Start Wizard, unfortunately, the re-run also removes any icons that have been added to the desktop and resets wallpaper to default. Haven't identified the exact changes that results in this but some have been to wbar.

2. Control Panel's Scanner program fails to recognize my HP5280 all-in-one usb printer, copier, scanner.

Added software and associated problems/corrections:

1. Unable to get an Amarok.sfs4 that works with pup431 to work, it has the following message: KLibLoader could not load the plugin: libamarok_xine-engine
Error message:
libxine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Amarok appears to work after installing missing files, however it will not play music and provides no additional error messages other than the music files are not supported. Music files tried are imported by itunes and play fine under pup431 using the same sfs.

2. Installed gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-uj using ppm. It is missing libltdl.so.7. All games appear to work fine after renaming libltdl.so.3 in /usr/lib/ to libltdl.so.7.

3. Installed Bibletime 1.6.5 using ppm. It is missing libcurl-gnutis.so.4. After, installing the link libcurl-gnutis.so.4 and the linked file libcurl-gnutis.so.4.1.0 to usr/lib, it works fine.

4. Installed Amsn using ppm which works fine.

Cheers,
Jim

[gposil]

Thanks for the great reports guy...

First Amarok...Dpup does not use or have the xine engine, it is mplayer. So the Pup431 sfs needs to be reworked to take that into account.

I will upload the Dpup version Gnome games Lite...

Please remember, that any -uj file in the Puppy repo, will almost certainly not work work out of the box in Dpup, they have to be re-jigged slightly, I just haven't got around to it yet....

More to come.

[gposil]

Jim1911 said:

2. Installed gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-uj using ppm. It is missing libltdl.so.7. All games appear to work fine after renaming libltdl.so.3 in /usr/lib/ to libltdl.so.7

You need the original libltdl.so.3, libtdl7 is a slightly different library, it is here ..http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... a-dpup.pet

Cheers
Guy

[01micko]

Jim..

The wbar patches should fix your issue with the icons.. see first page, I'm trying to rationalise . Instead of fixes spread throughout the thread I posted them in my post on Page 1, third post

Cheers

[musher0]

-=-=-=-=-=-
> 01micko says:
Actually, there is a bug in .xinitrc that I just discovered... (thanks Christian ), whoever wrote the code is testing for "icewm" in /etc/windowmanager... as we've been through, it could be "icewm" or "icewm-session". The script then goes on to execute either 'fbpanel' and 'lxpanel' (lucky they aren't present) even if "icewm-session" is the output of "cat /etc/windowmanager".. better inform the powers that be... gposil? Reading this?
-=-=-=-=-=-

I'm not sure I'm following you. Actually, the test if for NOT having jwm or ice* as a wm. (For the newbies, "!=" is a "IS NOT" statement.)

Lines 130-133 of .xinitrc :
-=-=-=-=-=-
#only launch tray for w.m. without inbuilt tray...
if [ "$CURRENTWM" != "jwm" -a "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm" -a "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm-session" ];then
[ -f /usr/bin/fbpanel ] && fbpanel &
[ -f /usr/bin/lxpanel ] && lxpanel &
fi
-=-=-=-=-=-
In plain language, that's: if the window manager is not jwm, not icewm, and not icewm-session, then launch fbpanel AND lxpanel. It insists too, to check that these panels are present, with the -f statement. If you have none, or only one, you can say: "Phew!".

One of those two lines should really be commented out, or there should be another if statement about them. In DOS, you have the GOTO statement, but I don't know the equivalent in bash (sorry). So there could be a statement saying,
[ -f /usr/bin/fbpanel ] && fbpanel & -- then "goto" rest of program,
and you'd skip the lxpanel statement.

If someone has both panels installed, with the above lines, the two panels would theoretically be loaded! Yoohoo! 2 panels for the price of 1, ladies and gentlemen! Look at the nice bargain we have for you!

But then, the poor end-user wouln't know what hit the desktop, though...

It's something I discovered accidentally too, 'cause echinus is incompatible with lxpanel, so I commented out the lxpanel line.

My 2 cents. BFN.