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Dpup Synaptic Testing
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tubeguy


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Dec 2009, 23:34    Post_subject:  

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if you don't change the init setting Dpup will look for multi-runlevel boot, which is not set up yet.

Heh. So that's what that was...

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 00:03    Post_subject:  

I've been futzing with this for several hours, I'm sure I just don't know enough to get this right, but here goes- I tried these instructions
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please start with a Fresh install or pfix=ram ... no need foe devx at this stage

1.) Download new synaptic
2.) Install synaptic
3.) do apt-get update or open synaptic and click reload
4.) if you did apt-get udate, open synaptic
5.) Then go to Libraries and install libc6

using pfix=ram and got weirdness upon rebooting, which was the runlevel issue addressed earlier. Then I rebooted with an earlier pupsave and tried just uninstalling the synaptic package in PPM. I grabbed the new synaptic and installed it, tried installing hydrogen drum machine and got
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E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on debconf
Then I booted into Windows and deleted all the pupsaves and did a fresh frugal install from my original dpup beta 5 disk. After rebooting and creating a fresh pupsave, I got the new synaptic again, did apt-get update, installed libc6 from within Synaptic, tried installing hydrogen again and got the familiar libc6 error.

I think for tonight I'm done. Sorry if this description is lacking, I was in a groove and didn't take the time to thoroughly document things, it's my best recollection of the way things happened.

I do have a question though regarding pfix=ram. I did all this on my old eMachine because I was scared of borking the setup on my laptop. Is using pfix=ram intended to preserve a current setup or intentionally start from scratch?

edit: first error description

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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 00:03    Post_subject:  

On a full hd installation of dpup482b5 including service patch on an ext4 partition. The only added software is synaptic and sfs installer which was used to install dpup_devx_482.

Tried to install Gramps with updated Synaptic, it downloaded OK, and stopped during installation with this error:
E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on debconf
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 00:10    Post_subject:  

Totally fresh full install. Installed the service pack, installed the Apt-Synaptic pet, reloaded ..........Synaptic froze up installing libc6.

See screenie.

I'm going to reinstall one last time tonight..... Smile
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 01:58    Post_subject:  

Good news.......Synaptic is running...... Smile

Bad news........unable to install anything........ Sad

Tried to install Kazehakase browser, downloaded 163 packages ,installation started and then error.

Tried Netsurf......downloaded 125 more packages and the same error occured. See screenie.
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gposil


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 02:15    Post_subject:  

OK guys...thank you for the testing, now downloading is working correctly, but I still have work to do on the installed database...that is what is causing the current errors...I'll get there...I'm in the process of building a new database from scratch, based on a standard Woof Lenny build, then I will add the Dpup upgrades and changes in apt, so the database will update correctly...Possibly take a few more days, but it will be worth it.

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 02:31    Post_subject:  

At the moment I have a fresh install with only the service pack, the Synaptic pet and 7 packages installed by Synaptic......nothing else has been added so I think I will leave things alone until the next fix arrives.Looks like we are sneaking up on it...... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 05:44    Post_subject:  

By George I Think We've Done It................

I have finished the database and it works, I have installed and uninstalled about 40 packages without error....so here's hoping, I will have the new APT/Synaptic up tonight, and it should just run, out of the box.

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 09:42    Post_subject:  

The new hopefully, working out of the box Synaptic is now in addons at http://dpup.org/test/dpup482beta5-2.6.30.5/addons/

Remember guys, if you are installing an alien deb package, to have it register with APT/Synaptic you should install it like this

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dpkg -i filename.deb


My next little project will be a pet2deb converter so you can register pets with APT/Synaptic...

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 11:01    Post_subject:  

gposil wrote:
By George I Think We've Done It................

I have finished the database and it works, I have installed and uninstalled about 40 packages without error....so here's hoping, I will have the new APT/Synaptic up tonight, and it should just run, out of the box.

Cheers
Guy
Did I see it well? Does it add another 63MB to dpup?
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 11:07    Post_subject:  

Béèm said:
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Did I see it well? Does it add another 63MB to dpup?


No Béèm its add nearly 200Mb to Dpup, why do you think Debian and Ubuntu are so big...all this sort of stuff adds great functionality but a huge cost, size wise. For those people who have the space and want the flexibility of installing Debian Packages simply, it is great.

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 11:13    Post_subject:  

gposil wrote:
Béèm said:
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Did I see it well? Does it add another 63MB to dpup?


No Béèm its add nearly 200Mb to Dpup, why do you think Debian and Ubuntu are so big...all this sort of stuff adds great functionality but a huge cost, size wise. For those people who have the space and want the flexibility of installing Debian Packages simply, it is great.

Cheers
Guy
Of coarse.
I didn't think about the fact that a pet grows much bigger once installed.
Thanks for the update.

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 11:15    Post_subject:  

BTW...i've had a few messages asking whether this will work in 4.3.1 or other Puppy versions, the quick answer is no, it will not, as Dpup has the underlying Gnome and Debian libs and structure. It can certainly be adapted to suit other Puppies, but at this stage it is Dpup only.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 15:38    Post_subject:  

Finally, Synaptic works.......I 've installed NetSurf and things went as expected.

I'll install a few more packages and report back later.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Dec 2009, 19:31    Post_subject:  

On a new full hd installation of dpup482b5 including service patch on an ext4 partition. The only added software is synaptic and sfs installer which was used to install dpup_devx_482.

Sorry, still isn't there. Tried installing, Gramps, Alexandria, and Amsn. All appeared to download and install properly, all failed to complete the installation and all failed on trying to remove them completely. Error messages for Alexandria installation and removal are attached. Gramps and Amsn had similar errors.
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