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No Nvidia Splash Screen (Solved)
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nitehawk


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PostPosted: Mon 14 Dec 2009, 17:31    Post subject:  No Nvidia Splash Screen (Solved)  

I have an older Nvidia Geforce4 MX440 card (in my Dell PIII). I installed the .pet nvidia driver "nvidia-96.43.13" (also have tried the older "nvidia-96.43.07").
My /etc/X11/xorg.conf file shows that the video driver is listed as "nvidia" and "nvidia corporation". However,....I have no nvidia splash screen on start-up,.....and can't run glxgears. So I don't know if the nvidia driver is properly installed or not.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec 2009, 06:02    Post subject:  

Did you install OpenGL as well? You need it for glxgears, although I can't say I use any programs that use it Smile
I think you can install the nvidia driver without OpenGL... surely there is an error message when you try to run glxgears? Are you running it from a terminal, or a configuration gui or something.

BTW, depending on the monitor and the video card you sometimes can't see the splash screen as it happens too fast.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec 2009, 16:53    Post subject:  

Thanks for answering so fast! Now that you mention it,..I don't think I installed OpenGL on this Puppy install (did so on another one). Don't think my card or computer is fast enough to flash the splash without me seeing it. But my xorg.conf file does have nvidia listed for the video driver. I'll try to install OpenGL, then,...and then see what happens (to be able to check gxlgears). Maybe there's another way to check if I have 3D, as well. I heard that the new Linux kernal is going to come with the "Nouveau" (the open-source nvidia driver) already in it. That's just great for folks like me that struggle with the proprietary one.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec 2009, 16:55    Post subject:  

EDIT: EGADS!!!! DOUBLE POST!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec 2009, 18:24    Post subject:  

Have you tried opening a terminal (rxvt), and typing "nvidia-settings".
I installed the nvidia package for my card using the linux installer from the nvidia site.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec 2009, 18:36    Post subject:  

Yeah,..I've done the "nvidia-settings" thing,...and I get the rectangle box with the settings display (but it's EMPTY! There's no nvidia info in it). And I got my nvidia driver from here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46686
...and it was supposed to have the gxlgears installed with the driver...
(but I don't get anything but error messages when I try to run gxlgears. I'd try to install the nvidia driver the hard way,...(i.e. from nvidia.com,..and not from the .pet package)....but I'm all "left thumbs" when it comes to that, it seems.

As of now,..I get no splash screen from nvidia,...and I can't yet tell if I have any kind of 3D going. I'm trying to check that right now,...(gotta be an easy way).
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 05:30    Post subject:  

If glxgears fails then you obviously don't have whatever kind of 3D acceleration or whatever it is that glxgears tests for.

FWIW I have one of those cards and it flashes up the splash screen too quickly for one of my monitors. If your xorg.conf says the driver is nvidia I'd assume the driver must be installed properly. I imagine that most or perhaps all 3D programs on Linux would use OpenGL, so if you need it you should install it...

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but I don't get anything but error messages when I try to run gxlgears

If you're trying to get help for a problem the first thing you should do is post the error messages.

If I run `which glxgears`, it tells me that my glxgears is in /usr/bin. I can then change to /usr/bin and run this to see what it depends on:
Code:
/usr/bin# ldd glxgears
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libglut.so.3 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libglut.so.3 (0xb7f3f000)
        libGLU.so.1 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0xb7ec9000)
        libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xb7e3d000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7e1b000)
        libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7d34000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7c39000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7b67000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7b5b000)
        libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0xb7b56000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7b4b000)
        libGLcore.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 (0xb72c5000)
        libnvidia-tls.so.1 => /usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1 (0xb72c2000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb72be000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f73000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb72bb000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb72b6000)

I think libGLUT, libGLU, libGL and libGLcore are all part of OpenGL, so I'm guessing your error messages are saying that it can't find these. Is that right?

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 12:31    Post subject:  

Just maybe your Nvidia driver is not running.
Did you happen to install xorg-dri after installing the Nvidia driver?
If so, it modified xorg.conf and you should re-install the Nvidia driver to correct it.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 14:35    Post subject:  

How would that work? Surely if xorg.conf says it is using the nvidia driver then it is?
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 15:28    Post subject:  

If xorgdri is installed after installing the nvidia driver, it overwrites the nvidia settings for xorg.conf
I had that happen to me and had to re-install the nvidia driver which I got from the nvidia website.
There is an nvidia backup of xorg.conf in the /etc/X11 directory that supposedly can be used to reinstate the loading of the true nvidia driver.
Not the driver supplied by the default xorg setup wizard when selecting xorg instead of xvesa.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 19:13    Post subject:  

"Leapin lizards, Batman! I just may have discovered my problem. I went back into the xorg.conf files,....and saw that my original video chipset, as well as another video card and driver I (previously) had in this computer,...are BOTH listed. I'm deleting both of those,...and leaving the xorg.conf file that just lists nvidia. Gonna see what happens,....

That did it!!!! Houston, we have a Splash! (Ooooooo, just look at them little gears turn!)
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2009, 05:24    Post subject:  

that's weird...
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2009, 11:01    Post subject:  

Quote:
that's weird...

It certainly is! Considering that I had completely removed the old Matrox Mystique video card quite sometime BEFORE I added the nvidia card,...and BEFORE I installed Puppy 4.3. Now how-in-the-world my X111 folder was showing about 3 xorg.conf files,......I have no clue. Talk about a "ghost-in-the-machine". It sure has me scratching my head,...'cause the Matrox card has been LONG pulled out and put away. Well,...at least the nvidia card and driver are working now.

EDIT: Wait a minute. I have several Puppy installs on several computers. I think on THAT particular one,...I just did an "upgrade" (not a complete re-install). OK,...that could explain the curious situation. (And thanks, 8-bit & disciple,...you guys gave me a clue to look closer at the X11 directory in the first place)...
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2009, 14:59    Post subject:  

Puppy has some sort of hardware profiling these days, so he saves your old configurations and will use them again if you put him back on the same hardware. What is weird is that the other files shouldn't have an effect on your current configuration... are you sure you didn't do something else that would have fixed it?
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2009, 15:22    Post subject:  

Hmmm,...can't think of anything else I did,...just looked and discovered there were 3 xorg.conf files (one with the original Intel i810,...the Matrox Mistique,..and one with nvidia.)....And I deleted the 2 un-needed ones. Then again,...I'm not the smartest thing around (when it comes to Linux)...so anything is possible. Of the possible 250,000,000 things there are to be known about Linux,..I may actually know about a dozen or so. Laughing (wish I could tell you more,...but that's all I can think of I did).
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