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Secure Version of Windows Created for the U.S. Air Force
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PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2009, 14:08    Post_subject:  Secure Version of Windows Created for the U.S. Air Force  

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/secure_version.html

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The NSA got together with the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the Defense Information Systems Agency and the Center for Internet Security to decide what to lock down in the Air Force special edition.

But of course those specifications are Top Secret, so that no one else can possibly compete with Microsoft in developing a secure OS. Another no-bid contract worth billions.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2009, 23:20    Post_subject:  

Wow, that's bad. The USAF has to just take MS word that there's not a back door. I really doubt MS shared their source code. Hope it's not used for really top secret stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2009, 23:36    Post_subject:  

"Secure Windows" is an oxymoron.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 20:45    Post_subject:  

lol
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2009, 13:05    Post_subject:  

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"Secure Windows" is an oxymoron.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/government/federal/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217700619
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benali72

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Dec 2009, 16:48    Post_subject: Windows is a bad choice for US gov't, esp the military!  

It's really scary that the USAF and various government agencies have decided upon Windows, rather than Secure Linux and other hardened forms of Linux.
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Wheres One


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Dec 2009, 17:35    Post_subject:  

It truly is terrifying to know that the US government uses Windows in conjunction with important information. What was it, a while ago, that something like 11 terabytes of information was leaked?

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Dec 2009, 22:33    Post_subject:  

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It truly is terrifying to know that the US government uses Windows in conjunction with important information. What was it, a while ago, that something like 11 terabytes of information was leaked?

Wheres One

But then again, american people are always terrified, so...









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dogle

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 18:52    Post_subject:  

Oxymoron, right. I've been missing out on this thread, but aficionados may while away an idle moment and perhaps raise a smile or three with the following gems from Vulture Towers:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/09/05/microsoft_collaborating_with_us_spymasters
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/20/win7_backdoor_denial
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/05/us_army_linux_integration
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/26/us_navy_open_standards

The one that breaks me heart is
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/05/windows_for_warships_hits_type_23s
The poor 'ol Grey Funnel Line, lost its grog, losing its funnels and now facing the BSOD for real.
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prehistoric


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 12:03    Post_subject: paranoid processing and beyond  

You might consider my suggestion on the 48-core thread about where this is all heading. The military has a long history of distrusting individual judgment, so suggestions about plugging that gaping hole would be a natural for them.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 20:18    Post_subject:  

Damn...how did they get hold of my windows install........ Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jan 2010, 19:11    Post_subject: EULA?  

I've been waiting for someone on this topic to bring up the subject which leaped into my mind when I read the title. Guess I'll have to do it myself.

What did the EULA look like for that secure Windows system? Didn't they have something to say about "life-critical applications"? What about disclaimers of liability for consequential damages from: shooting down airliners, mistaking cruise liners for cruise missiles, or starting a nuclear war?
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jan 2010, 20:26    Post_subject:  

Any OS is secure with the right firewall (that may or may not defeat the intended purpose).

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