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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 02:02    Post subject:  Quirky 006 feedback  

Release announcement:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01365

This forum thread is for tester feedback...

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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 03:34    Post subject:  

Just did a fresh frugal install of Quirky 006 on my old P3 test computer and installed Firefox 3.6.

YouTube videos play perfectly in Firefox and I've tried mp4 and wmv files in Gnome-Mplayer and they play fine as well.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 04:04    Post subject: Movie trailers at lovefilm.com  

I can confirm that the .ram file problem is now fixed.

However, I have a new problem. Movie trailers no longer play at http://www.lovefilm.com. They hang at "loading". LATER: No, this seems to be a temporary problem with the site, not Quirky.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 04:16    Post subject:  

Hi

I decided to test DVD playback with Q-006.

The DVD I used was one I shrunk with Pburn some time ago when I was helping zigbert to debug Pburn. It plays perfectly on my stand alone DVD player.

The DVD started fine when selected from gnome-mplayer, however playback was quite choppy to the point where it was almost unwatchable. My hardware is ok, Athlon2100+, 768 ram, radeon 9200 pro vid card, "radeon" driver loads no problem. Mplyer plays fine using pupRadio/Telly.

I didn't test DVD playback in Q-005, so I thought I would boot back into that and see what happened. Playback with the same disc was perfect, no chop at all.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 05:32    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
The DVD started fine when selected from gnome-mplayer, however playback was quite choppy to the point where it was almost unwatchable. My hardware is ok, Athlon2100+, 768 ram, radeon 9200 pro vid card, "radeon" driver loads no problem. Mplyer plays fine using pupRadio/Telly.

I didn't test DVD playback in Q-005, so I thought I would boot back into that and see what happened. Playback with the same disc was perfect, no chop at all.


Right now I'm running 006 on my laptop, Intel video, 1GB RAM, 1.4GHz Celeron CPU.

I tested with video-out set to 'x11' and it played smoothly. Top showed 50% CPU usage.

I tested with video-out set to 'xv' and again it played smoothly, with 40% CPU usage.

Earlier, I tested on a 1GHz Celeron, 256MB RAM, PC, and a DVD played smoothly.

So, I'm wondering why you are having a problem.I'm wondering if Gnome-mplayer is having a problem with your DVD drive. Is it a normal internal IDE type of drive?

I think we need lots of people to try this, and maybe we can identify a common factor if others get choppy playback.

I'll test on some more PCs.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 05:55    Post subject:  

Hi Barry

The drive in my box is an ATAPI iHAP322 9 (Liteon IDE dual layer DVD burner, quite common I think, numbers of drive as reported in Hardinfo).

Now I decided to check on my old p3 600, 128ram, old Vanta vid card (agp1) puppy pfix=ram, "nv" driver loads as expected... lo and behold the same DVD plays better than on my fast box.. not quite perfect but allowing that the clockspeed and ram are a third of my main box that is understandable. The drive in that is a TSSCorp (Samsung) single layer DVD burner, but DVD burning no longer works in that drive, it is 5 years old and has seen plenty of work. CD burning and DVD playback seem fine with that drive.

So, it must be either the drive or video the card that gnome-mplayer doesn't like. Like I said was ok in 005 with Ogle. I suppose I can rip out the drive from my old box and shove it in my fast box and see what happens... will report back in 20 mins.

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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 06:19    Post subject:  

I first made a USB stick with UNetbootin and tested Q006 on my AcerD250
and everything except getting Wired LAN and Wireless worked. No network detected. That is what most puppy versions say. But the Pup431JP can get the wired going if I go into old version of network manage but on Quirky that fails. Impossible to get it going.

then I tested on my HP - Compaq Presario SR5622SC ... Chipset: nVidia GeForce 6150SE; Graphics Support: PCI Express x16;

It gave the black screen with a cursor on it but nothing to look at. Xorgwizard could not make it work.

Maybe the Nvidia need someone better than me to find it and make it work.

It work with both Pup431JP and Macpup.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 06:23    Post subject:  

Ok,

Threw in the Samsung dvd drive and no difference... I happened to load Pwidgets too and noticed the CPU was maxed out, so I ran Top and grabbed a screeny.

Is there any log file you want? Let me know.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 06:34    Post subject:  

I tested DVD playing on the Intel Classmate laptop, which has 900MHz Celeron CPU and 256MB RAM. I have got a USB DVD drive connected.

Booted from USB stick, no pupsave.

A DVD movie plays nice and smooth. Top shows that mplayer is using about 75% of the CPU.

01micko,
Your CPU% for X is too high. It looks like a video driver problem. Curious though that Ogle plays smoothly.

Did you try 'x11' and 'xv' in Gnome-mplayer preferences?

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 06:45    Post subject:  

Ok

Tried both options, xv is the same. However x11 was better, cpu is around 60% now but I can't get full screen, it goes to full screen but the video is not full screen size. Ah well, narrowing it down.

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mories

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 07:09    Post subject: Error with boot parameter pkeys  

Booting with parameter pkeys cause errors:
loadkmap: /dev/tty0 : No such file or directory
loadfont: /dev/tty0 : No such file or directory

Pausing for 60 seconds ...
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 08:08    Post subject:  

Ok,

A bit of study of mplayer man page and it seems the radeon driver needs vo=xvidix... ok, tried that and cpu is down to 65-70% and video plays very smoothly and at full screen Smile , but there is a green stripe on the RHS..about 10px wide Sad .. ah well, seems I can't have it all!

Will investigate more tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 11:39    Post subject:  

edit: mp4 from youtube,

downloaded at the icafe with some online downloader in windows
click plays in everything except quirky 5 and quirky 6 where you have to drag and drop into the vacant player after clicking it. it is not unique, have other that also need drag and drop while further others downloaded youtube mp4 will click play. will post it somewhere if you cant find it
no md5hash in right click and the hasher doesn't drag ad drop, and then you cant copy the hash but must save a new file then open it , to be able to copy the md5hash output somewhere else. very tedious.
xdelta in 431 works wonderfully the xdelta method is best new version upgrade yet.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 16:24    Post subject: Quirky 006
Subject description: Trouble at the beginning
 

Took Quirky 006 out for walk this morning. Here a few observations about his behavior.

1. Quirky did not recognize the ATI Mobility Radeon X300 in my ThinkPad R52. When I entered the proper screen resolution, the result was a barely visible dim screen.

After some experimentation, I was able to get the vesa driver to work.

2. The German keyboard that I selected during setup was not properly installed. I was able to fix this with the XKB Configuration Manage.

3. Connection to the net via LAN functioned with no problems, lameSMB found, but refused to connect to one of my two remote computers. Connection via smbclient worked (for simple file tasks, this seems easier than ftp, which requires you to start a server on one of the computers).

4. mplayer and pupradio worked fine on audio files. A DVD test with mplayer was partially successful. Sound and video quality were excellent, but full screen did not work.

So, a few things left to do. Wish I could be of more help.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 16:43    Post subject: Quirky006 performance  

It seems gnome-mplayer & gecko-mediaplayer are a great addition. I'm running frugal now with the following apps open: ayttm, abiword, gnumeric, seamonkey with gecko media player plugin live streaming mp3. Performance is still real snappy and everything is stable. Memory use is miserly and no swap is being utilized.

I have only 256ram and a 466mhz pre-coppermine celeron, which is based on pII.

So far, 006 is proving to be an excellent accomplishment!

Kudos to you!
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