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[aragon]

hi goingnuts,

would it be possible for you to write a little howto about the build-process?

aragon

[goingnuts]

Hi aragon

[Lobster]

This is a major achievement.
It uses the Linux kernel and (limited) Puppy hardware recognition
scripts. Is that right?

It shows the 'what if' mentality that Barry uses and can be found
throughout Puppy.

I would be interested to know of ideas for applications.

For example:
1 trick Puppys
Device dependent Puppys
Or how about a film, images or music folder Puppy

Puppy
Create your own pedigree

[aragon]

[goingnuts]

Hi Lobster.
You are right - most of the content is pure P412 original files. This is basically a "cut down size" remaster with a new Busybox and an idea of using zdrv_412.sfs in a new (?) way.

Ideas for application: The first thing (apart from a boring web-server...) that crossed my mind was: A pUPnGO-based clock radio - being able to explain why it is so important to get up in the morning, maybe give a small report of what happened during the day, play some music that fits todays mood, read out loud my mails, call me up at work to get me out of boring meetings - everything voice-to-voice - no screen, mouse or keyboard.
Maybe too exotic though...

Hi aragon.
I have updated the how-to to be an executable build script for the abbyss-webserver - and it very much shows the structure and principle of the build script used for "the core" pUPnGO-build-script. At the moment my build-script for pUPnGO is a mess with a lot of loose/dead ends - so making it public right now makes no sense.

I also would like to fine-tune the applications available in pUPnGO (mainly dialog based primitive pet-install, grub-install and audio-setup wizard) before including the build-script on the CD-ISO. If someone has such gadgets in their drawer already, I would gladly include them.

The "inspiration source" for the build-script (and also for some of the functions used) has been:

Puppy Linux - boots from and saves to almost everything - runs in ram - SFS-file-structure - feels good...you know!
A series of articles found here: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/Deploying-Linux-Embedded-Systems/
The woof project
The Xwoaf project (web-site down - but basically a build of a one floppy Linux booting to X/JWM)
The byld-project

In principle you take files from a running Linux (or in the pUPnGO case, from the original P412-CD and small bits from your running P412) and melt them together to a new one. Most have been trial and error for me when selecting which files to include...

Kim

[aragon]

hi kim,

thanks for the answer, no problem.

the info that you were building it top => down is helpful, that has also been the route i've gone for building a small (not in your terms, it's bloated with nearly 40 mb) audio-server puplet without X (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36326).

aragon

[puppyiso]

Hello, goingnuts

I have been seeing your great works. I always wanted a puppy as small as this. I do understand this is a "building block".

But for someone like me who lacks inner knowledge of Puppy, could you kindly upload the xvesa vesion for me to play adding abiword and scim files? That would make a perfect writer's puppy.

ABSOLUTELY immune to any virus... I no longer exchange computer STD thru USB with others.

I tried and successfully booted but Dejabu with DOS screen again.
I also tried CLI version from puppymartin but ended up error when booted.

I just hope that the vesion works with all_lang.sfs from a Japanese version Puppy. Or... at least with SCIM.

Let me play with the possibilities.

Thank you.

John

[goingnuts]

Hi John

[puppyiso]

Hello, Kim

Thank you for the reply. From GUI back to the dark screen made me feel being blind. I sought after an easy coptout.(Excuse my US English..)

Hmm.. Sounds difficult but I will try it. I feel like going back to high school and learn Algebra all over again.

Thanks.(shivering now..)

John

[goingnuts]

[sinc]

i don't know anything about scripts really but when i tried to run the xvesa script it did not work all the way. it appears it creates an iso named pUPnGO-v01.1.iso but when it tries to apply xvesa it looks for the iso without the extra .1, just v01.iso. So i renamed the iso and reran the script and it worked but so you know the extra .1 is causing the script to not work right.

[sinc]

okay, I can admit that I am not smart enough to make it work. I am trying to use the script with the xvesa_jwm. I went through the script and changed the commands asking for v01.iso to v01.1.iso but now I get a message that says cannot 'stat' /etc/X11R7/bin/jwm.

when i try to boot i get an error that says something like failure to load loop_3 waiting 60 seconds.

any ideas? thanks.

[goingnuts]

[sinc]

Kim, I have tried and I still cannot get the vesa build to boot up into a GUI. I have tried to run the build script from Puppy 431 w/ the devx and from Dpup without the devx. On both of them I downloaded the ar.pet and applied it. I wanted to copy the terminal info and paste it here so you could see it but I cannot figure out how to copy from rxvt or mrxvt. I know its supposed to be middle-click but I have a laptop without a middle button and when I try to click simultaneously it simply reruns the script that I highlighted. But I still get the error "cannot stat /etc/X11R7/bin/jwm."

should i be trying to build it from 412, does that matter?

I'm sorry for my lack of knowledge, I have used Puppy for about a year and am fairly familiar with it but I am (obviously) not a programmer of any kind. Thanks.

[ttuuxxx]