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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 16:28    Post subject:  

this searchmonkey or the yahoo project?
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 16:55    Post subject:  

As the problems I had were so weird and as I didn't find a md5sum to verify if the download was done correctly, I decided to download again.

Either in the meantime the iso has been updated or I had indeed a bad download, but this time I got all the good questions on pfix=ram.
And I am in xorg
Just have to see if I get the proposal to create a save file.

But: altho I defined my keyboard to be Belgium, it stayed in us.
I redid the config through the control panel, but to no avail, still us.
Finally I edited xorg.conf and changed us to be.
I am in Belgian now.

I suppose I better open an incident in the bug track system for this.
Hopefully there is a follow up, as for other puppies I used a bug track system, already but never saw any activity.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 18:38    Post subject:  

I rebuilt busybox from master with almost allyesconfig and have set up a pinstall.sh that will only make symlinks if the program is not installed in the executable path... so if you have a program installed you will need to move it out of your path (so which cannot find it) prior to installation if you want to test the busybox version (although I configured busybox with the ability to install itself via busbox --install -s , I used a pinstall.sh script to do it manually in case programs are installed to non-default locations - when tar is configured with --prefix=/usr for example)

If anyone would like to test it for dpkg or others it also provides the following:

    [, [[, acpid, addgroup, adduser, adjtimex, ar, arp, arping, ash, awk,
    basename, bbconfig, beep, blkid, brctl, bunzip2, bzcat, bzip2, cal,
    cat, catv, chat, chattr, chgrp, chmod, chown, chpasswd, chpst, chroot,
    chrt, chvt, cksum, clear, cmp, comm, cp, cpio, crond, crontab, cryptpw,
    cttyhack, cut, date, dc, dd, deallocvt, delgroup, deluser, depmod,
    devfsd, devmem, df, dhcprelay, diff, dirname, dmesg, dnsd,
    dnsdomainname, dos2unix, dpkg, dpkg-deb, du, dumpkmap, dumpleases,
    echo, ed, egrep, eject, env, envdir, envuidgid, ether-wake, expand,
    expr, fakeidentd, false, fbset, fbsplash, fdflush, fdformat, fdisk,
    fgrep, find, findfs, flash_eraseall, flash_lock, flash_unlock, flashcp,
    fold, free, freeramdisk, fsck, fsck.minix, fsync, ftpd, ftpget, ftpput,
    fuser, getopt, getty, grep, gunzip, gzip, halt, hd, hdparm, head,
    hexdump, hostid, hostname, httpd, hush, hwclock, id, ifconfig, ifdown,
    ifenslave, ifplugd, ifup, inetd, init, inotifyd, insmod, install,
    ionice, ip, ipaddr, ipcalc, ipcrm, ipcs, iplink, iproute, iprule,
    iptunnel, kbd_mode, kill, killall, killall5, klogd, lash, last, length,
    less, linux32, linux64, linuxrc, ln, loadfont, loadkmap, logger, login,
    logname, logread, losetup, lpd, lpq, lpr, ls, lsattr, lsmod, lspci,
    lsusb, lzmacat, lzop, lzopcat, makedevs, makemime, man, md5sum, mdev,
    mesg, microcom, mkdir, mkdosfs, mke2fs, mkfifo, mkfs.ext2, mkfs.minix,
    mkfs.reiser, mkfs.vfat, mknod, mkpasswd, mkswap, mktemp, modprobe,
    more, mount, mountpoint, msh, mt, mv, nameif, nc, netstat, nice,
    nmeter, nohup, nslookup, ntpd, od, openvt, passwd, patch, pgrep, pidof,
    ping, ping6, pipe_progress, pivot_root, pkill, popmaildir, poweroff,
    printenv, printf, ps, pscan, pwd, raidautorun, rdate, rdev, readahead,
    readlink, readprofile, realpath, reboot, reformime, renice, reset,
    resize, rm, rmdir, rmmod, route, rpm, rpm2cpio, rtcwake, run-parts,
    runlevel, runsv, runsvdir, rx, script, scriptreplay, sed, sendmail,
    seq, setarch, setconsole, setfont, setkeycodes, setlogcons, setsid,
    setuidgid, sh, sha1sum, sha256sum, sha512sum, showkey, slattach, sleep,
    softlimit, sort, split, start-stop-daemon, stat, strings, stty, su,
    sulogin, sum, sv, svlogd, swapoff, swapon, switch_root, sync, sysctl,
    syslogd, tac, tail, tar, taskset, tcpsvd, tee, telnet, telnetd, test,
    tftp, tftpd, time, timeout, top, touch, tr, traceroute, traceroute6,
    true, tty, ttysize, tunctl, tune2fs, udhcpc, udhcpd, udpsvd, umount,
    uname, uncompress, unexpand, uniq, unix2dos, unlzma, unlzop, unzip,
    uptime, usleep, uudecode, uuencode, vconfig, vi, vlock, volname, wall,
    watch, watchdog, wc, wget, which, who, whoami, xargs, yes, zcat, zcip


However only these will be installed:

    acpid, adjtimex, arp, arping, bbconfig, beep, brctl, catv, chpasswd, chpst, chrt, cryptpw, cttyhack, devfsd, devmem, dhcprelay, dnsdomainname, dpkg, dumpleases, envdir, envuidgid, ether-wake, fakeidentd, FALSE, fbsplash, flashcp, flash_eraseall, flash_lock, flash_unlock, fsync, ftpd, httpd, hush, ifenslave, inetd, ionice, ipcrm, ipcs, kbd_mode, killall5, lash, length, linux32, linux64, lpd, lsusb, lzmacat, lzop, lzopcat, makemime, mdev, microcom, mkfs.reiser, mkpasswd, mountpoint, msh, mt, nmeter, ntpd, pgrep, pkill, popmaildir, printenv, pscan, raidautorun, readahead, readprofile, reformime, resize, rtcwake, run-parts, runsv, runsvdir, rx, script, scriptreplay, sendmail, setarch, setconsole, setlogcons, setuidgid, sha1sum, slattach, softlimit, start-stop-daemon, sum, sv, svlogd, taskset, tcpsvd, telnetd, tftpd, traceroute6, TRUE, ttysize, tunctl, udhcpc, udhcpd, udpsvd, unexpand, unlzop, vconfig, vi, wall, watch, watchdog, who, zcip
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 18:53    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
As the problems I had were so weird and as I didn't find a md5sum to verify if the download was done correctly, I decided to download again.

Either in the meantime the iso has been updated or I had indeed a bad download, but this time I got all the good questions on pfix=ram.
And I am in xorg
Just have to see if I get the proposal to create a save file.

But: altho I defined my keyboard to be Belgium, it stayed in us.
I redid the config through the control panel, but to no avail, still us.
Finally I edited xorg.conf and changed us to be.
I am in Belgian now.

I suppose I better open an incident in the bug track system for this.
Hopefully there is a follow up, as for other puppies I used a bug track system, already but never saw any activity.
So I got the panel to create a save file this time.
But when I rebooted, only the trash had the correct icons. The others surrounding not. Another incident to be made so.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 19:57    Post subject:  

Hi technosaurus,
Using Stardust-012, I converted my pupsave-431_2.2fs to 3fs and modified the initrd.gz file so that the pupsave-431_2.3fs will mount properly as a journaled file system on my ext3 partition. They are working great. I hope that you are considering having options to create pupsaves as 2/3/4fs with the corresponding changes to the initrd.gz so they will mount properly as journaled file systems on ext3/4.

Thanks,
Jim
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 20:12    Post subject:  

I haven't taken a look at the code for creating the [2-4]fs files, (I think Barry already patched init for ext4 in woof)
the empty *fs files gzip down to next to nothing if I recall, so maybe it would be better to have a gzipped version of each so they could be available at startup rather than having to create them afterwards?

now that kernel 2.6.33 is out ext4 will likely be default, since now you can use the ext4 driver for ext2 and ext3 filesystems

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Feb 2010, 20:30    Post subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
Hi technosaurus,
Using Stardust-012, I converted my pupsave-431_2.2fs to 3fs and modified the initrd.gz file so that the pupsave-431_2.3fs will mount properly as a journaled file system on my ext3 partition. They are working great. I hope that you are considering having options to create pupsaves as 2/3/4fs with the corresponding changes to the initrd.gz so they will mount properly as journaled file systems on ext3/4.

Thanks,
Jim
Having read that 3fs was better I did a test with a dpup 484beta4 save file and converted the 2fs to 3fs.
I wasn't aware that a change in the initrd.gz was needed maybe.
After a moment of operating thus, I still had the issue of the save file not cleanly unmounted for that 3fs.

Is this due to the fact the initrd.gz wasn't changed?
What is there to be changed?

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 10:18    Post subject:  

What is the md5sum of the iso please?
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 13:27    Post subject:
Subject description: Missing Icons
 

Jim1911 wrote:
So far this distribution has been very stable, although right now it is hard to distinguish it from Stardust-011.

Problems noted:
1. Drive icons do not show up on the desktop, although appropriate boxes are selected using the Control Center.
2. Only generic icons are showing for file, my_links, and Drives on the Desktop. The trash icon is correct.

Please consider adding the capability to Mouse/Keyboard Settings in the Puppy Control Center, an option to turn the NumLock key on/off.

Thanks,
Jim
I have the same issue about the desktop icons in the upper left corner.
To be reported in the bug tracker?

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 13:28    Post subject: Suggestion replace SeaMonkey 1.1.18 with SeaMonkey 2.0.3  

Could it be considered to include SeaMonkey 2.0.3 instead of 1.1.18?
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 13:31    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
Is this due to the fact the initrd.gz wasn't changed?
What is there to be changed?
To modify init to mount the pupsave-3fs properly, I use the following technique shared by Mikeb.
1. Unpack initrd.gz and open the init file with your text editor.
2. Search for -t ext2 this will pick up the commands where pup_save gets mounted as -t ext2 and you change it to -t ext3. In the init files that I have edited (pup431, pup432, dpup, upup, Lighthouse, and Stardust), there have been only three instances to change.
3. Repack the new initrd.gz and copy it to the proper location.

Boot your pup and use the mount command to confirm that the 3fs is mounted properly.

More information about how to unpack and repack the initrd.gz is here.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 14:08    Post subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
Béèm wrote:
Is this due to the fact the initrd.gz wasn't changed?
What is there to be changed?
To modify init to mount the pupsave-3fs properly, I use the following technique shared by Mikeb.
1. Unpack initrd.gz and open the init file with your text editor.
2. Search for -t ext2 this will pick up the commands where pup_save gets mounted as -t ext2 and you change it to -t ext3. In the init files that I have edited (pup431, pup432, dpup, upup, Lighthouse, and Stardust), there have been only three instances to change.
3. Repack the new initrd.gz and copy it to the proper location.

Boot your pup and use the mount command to confirm that the 3fs is mounted properly.

More information about how to unpack and repack the initrd.gz is here.
Thank you Jim1911
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 14:41    Post subject:  

abushcrafter

It seems Google code operates a standard checksum facility which uses SHA1 checksums (a standard inbuilt Linux checksum - although I couldn't get it in Puppy!).

If one gets the download by going here:
http://code.google.com/p/puppy-development/downloads/list

Find the file to download and click on ANY info EXCEPT the file name. You will be taken to a page which shows the SHA1 checksum.

For pup-431-2.iso it is shown as:
56773f186be134a509f6e6e29a530d72c84a380b

All you need now is to get the sha1sum utility. As I said it appears not to be in Puppy. Me - I just went to the command line in Knoppix.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 16:11    Post subject:  

Thanks. Puppy comes with GTKHash which does MD5 and SHA1 sums.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 20:48    Post subject:  

abushcrafter

Thanks for the info re GTKHash. I see it on the menu now.

I was looking for sha1sum in the past because that was supposed to be an inbuilt linux command line tool.
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