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technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4851 Location: Blue Springs, MO

Firefox-3.6 alas - 10MB pet
http://puppy-development.googlecode.com/files/firefox-3.6.pet
requires
http://puppy-development.googlecode.com/files/hunspell-1.2.8-i486.pet
and possibly http://puppy-development.googlecode.com/files/cairo-1.8.8-i486.pet
but it seems to be running fine without it

I just had to cp -rL chrome/* to the chrome directory from the source tree in /dist/bin

I had the same problem with seamonkey-2 as well but never figured it out - for future reference NEVER use the symlink chrome option unless you are a developer building from the svn tree continuously

Sylpheed is here:
http://puppy-development.googlecode.com/files/sylpheed-3.0.0-i486.pet

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4851 Location: Blue Springs, MO

Thanks ttuuxxx - unfortunately I cannot print from any version of Puppy to test... due to no printer, so I'll have to get some user feedback on that one.

ttuuxxx · Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2010, 00:42 Post subject:

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6729 Location: Kentucky

I've been using Wolf Pup's Firefox pets in all my Puppy installations, excluding those that already have FF, and have had no problems since 4.30 was released. I have deleted my save file for 4.4 pre-alpha and installed the new FF 3.6 pet and in brief testing so far there have been no problems. Tried a few Youtube and other streaming videos and they played nice and smooth.

Guess I'll upgrade to the latest Flash and see if there is any change.

Looks like this is a good base for 4.4........ Smile

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8683 Location: qld

why not go with something totally radical and use Dillo as the default.. lots of browser in the tiny core repo, easily installed... I'm using Icecat, with dbus and dbus glib as tcls>>>sfs (*people now take aim at micko...* Laughing

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8-bit · Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3425 Location: Oregon

I would rather stay with SeaMonkey as that was offered in the original that Puppy CE is based on.
Puppy CE to me at least is getting to look like a Stardust wannabe.
The implementation of auto-internet setup is good and works for me out of the box.
But if I want a Stardust look, I would just run Stardust.
If I want Firefox, I can install that.
So how about this for an idea.
Include a standalone web browser that can be removed and offer the option using Puppy Package Manager to install the browser the user chooses.
That should please those that want Seamonkey, Firefox, Chrome, etc.
If I made some upset with this comment, that happens.

ttuuxxx · Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2010, 02:37 Post subject:

I'm 100% for Firefox Smile

Seamonkey is like in everything you can shake a stick at, Opera I hate the upsidedown gui, dillo usually can't download pets from the forum or ibiblio. Midori usually isn't all that stable, Firefox has the best selection of plugins, is used by most linux users, really if you take all the Linux browsers add up all the users and compare Firefox to the rest, Firefox would have like 75% of the market, Its because it auto-updates almost weekly to combat security issues, its stable and finally 3 series is more stable than FF2 Smile

ttuuxxx

aragon · Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 1698 Location: Germany

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2807 Location: Montenegro

Hi people, haven't tried 4.4 yet, is it same kernel and base as 4.3.1 ? Will look into changes but I'm posting regarding browsers.

Dillo is too basic in my opinion to go with, lacks features although it is neat if someone wants lightweight browser with not too much fat. But for default browser puppy needs some of mainstream browsers. I'm big fan of firefox and just like ttuuxxx I think opera has little different way of apeareance and integration of it's suite then users normally would expect. Seamonkey is okay I guess and somewhat lighter for resources then ff (not sure about 2.0 but 1.1.18 was really good on resources).

Seamonkey is probably good choice for default but I would personally always install firefox over that.

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8683 Location: qld

Bah!

Even more radical idea .... NO browser!!! ( Laughing

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Simple list of what browser you want... click, it installs.

Ok, ok, no browser is a bit too radical... dialup guys need something..., but something light with adblock... FF2??? Firepup??? Yes, I know.. old.. (*more cannons aimed at micko*)... but good. Cool

There is a vala browser based on webkit, I think gege had something to do with it..

Personally, I think flash is overrated. I hate flash videos. You are always at the mercy of the uplinks' speed Crying or Very sad

. The youtube downloader by trio is a neat get around. You can play flash without having flash, whether you have fast net or not. Would make us a bit gnuer too. (not a typo!)

Hmm.. maybe a new thread for this one as a browser is only a small (yet important) part of an OS.

Cheers

Béèm · Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2010, 08:22 Post subject:

Béèm · Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2010, 08:27 Post subject:

ICPUG · Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1305 Location: UK

How many times must we have browser wars?

Different strokes for different folks.

I leave it to Technosaurus to decide.

ttuuxxx · Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2010, 09:45 Post subject:

Béèm · Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2010, 10:43 Post subject:

Indeed a browser war, as any war, isn't good.
My opinion is, that 4.4CE, also due to the stardust thing, isn't a puppy anymore, but a puplet.
Don't misunderstand, I like that stardust approach very well.

Now if the community, whatever this is, goes in this directions, so be it.

And it will not deter me to look into this product.