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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 10:30    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:

I bet dial-up users love Firefox over Seamonkey when it comes to updates updates Smile
I like the silent updates Firefox does, usually it just says "Firefox has updated, please restart the browser to view the updates" or something like that.
ttuuxxx


To be honest - dialup users would probably prefer opera (out of the box at least) for the turbo feature - regardless of updates (I have gotten 10.5 testing down to a 7MB rox app pet with english locales and no unite now that it is gtk based) ... I don't think the fasterfox addon does as well as turbo - my understanding is that opera servers compress the data, so websites that are already compressed will not see much improvement, but it doesn't seem like very many are. Unfortunately there are still some annoying bugs in opera that would annoy intermediate to advanced users... like adding url tags in the forum (it drops the beginning tag)

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 11:15    Post subject:  

@ttuuxxx and others,
I just installed SeaMonkey 2.0.3, so I can't testify myself, but a while ago esmourguit confirmed the update in SeaMonkey is automatic, like in FF. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 15:22    Post subject:  

Honestly, I see very little difference between browsers. Everyone has a favorite, but as far as I can see, they all do the job. Some are better at some things (size, stability, etc), but they can all do the job. I don't think we can go wrong regardless of the one chosen.

The only thing I would request would be a personal bookmarks toolbar. These are missing in the official releases (cept 4.21 Smile ), and they are quite handy.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 18:07    Post subject:  

Here is my Firefox config:

Generated: Sat Mar 06 2010 22:06:49 GMT+0800
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6
Build ID: 20100115133306

Enabled Extensions: [40]
- Adblock Plus 1.1.3 - Ads were yesterday!
- ArchView 0.7.1 - View archive file online!
- Autofill Forms 0.9.5.2 - Fill out web forms automatically
- Autohide 1.8.1
- British English Dictionary 1.19
- CheckPlaces 2.1.0 - Checks bookmarks are valid
- CoLT 2.4.6 - Makes it easy to copy link text and locations.
- Console² 0.5 - The next generation error console.
- Dafizilla ViewSourceWith 0.5.4 - View page source with external application
- Extended Statusbar 1.5.4 - A Statusbar with speed, percentage, time and loaded size (similar to Opera's one).
- Filter Extensions 1.0.3.6 - Adds a search box and a filter drop-down to the Addons window, to filter your installed extensions.
- Firebug 1.5.2 - Web Development Evolved.
- FlashGot 1.2.1.15 - Enables single and massive ("all" and "selection") downloads using the most popular external download managers for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and FreeBSD (dozens currently supported, see Extension's Home Page for details). FlashGot offers also a Build Gallery functionality which helps to synthetize full media galleries in one page from serial contents originally scattered on several pages, for easy and fast "download all".
- Hide Find Bar 1.3.1 - Hide the Find Bar after a certain interval of inactivity has elapsed.
- History Tree 1.2 - Shows history as a tree and a grid of web-page screenshots
- Image Zoom 0.4.4 - Adds zoom functionality for images
- ImageTweak 0.19 - Enhances the vision of direct images
- KnowMore Extension 0.2.7 - The Knowmore extension helps you find out more about the environmental and social impact of companies, brands, and products as you browse the web. Features include alerts when you visit company websites, integration of ratings with major search engines (Google, Yahoo, MSN Live, Ask), and deep integration with the Amazon.com catalog. The Knowmore extension gets its data from Knowmore.org, an independent community-powered corporate accountability wiki.
- Link Alert 1.0.1 - Changes the cursor to indicate the target of a link.
- Menu Editor 1.2.6 - Customize application menus
- Menu Icons Plus 1.8 - Menu icon sets and toolbar tweaks.
- MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.4 - MR Tech Toolkit power tools for all users. (en-US)
- NoScript 1.9.9.50 - Extra protection for your Firefox: NoScript allows JavaScript, Java (and other plugins) only for trusted domains of your choice (e.g. your home-banking web site). This whitelist based pre-emptive blocking approach prevents exploitation of security vulnerabilities (known and even unknown!) with no loss of functionality… Experts will agree: Firefox is really safer with NoScript Smile
- Novell Moonlight 2.1 - The open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight
- Omnibar 0.6.8.20100227 - Integrates search bar to the location bar.
- OPIE 1.2.3 - Import/Export extension preferences
- OptimizeGoogle 0.77 - Enhance Google search results and remove ads and spam
- QuietUrl 1.6.0.7 - Stress-free url experience. Automatically converts mistyped or obfuscated urls to valid ones. Automatic generation of anchor on textual url hovering and automatic obfuscation on textual url input based on a per-domain check.
- Read It Later 2.0.3 - Save pages to read later.
- Screenshot Pimp 1.52 - Screen Grabbing Tool
- Shareaholic 1.9.6 - Shareaholic is the ultimate tool for sharing stuff with 100+ destination services including Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, Delicious, Evernote, WordPress, and much much more!
- Stay-Open Menu 1.5.3 - Facilitates opening multiple items from the Bookmarks Menu and various other bookmark/history/tab related dropdown menus.
- Tab Mix Plus 0.3.8.2 - Tab browsing with an added boost.
- TooManyTabs 1.1.5 - TooManyTabs allows you to store as many tabs as you like by adding extra rows in the Firefox!
- View Dependencies 0.3.3.1 - Adds a tab listing dependencies and their sizes in the Page Info window.
- View Source Chart 2.7 - View Page Source with HTML Chart GUI
- Weave Sync 1.1 - Synchronize your bookmarks, history, tabs and passwords wherever you go. Whether you use Firefox on your phone, laptop, or desktop, securely access all your data.
- Web Developer 1.1.8 - Adds a menu and a toolbar with various web developer tools.
- Wired-Marker 3.1.09060400 - Put permanent marker line on web pages in many color and shapes / option.
- WOT 20091028 - Web of trust.

Disabled Extensions: [9]
- CheckBoxMate 0.2 - Check multiple checkboxes by drawing a rectangle around them.
- Controle de Scripts 1.0.3 - Improves your JavaScript control.
- Copy All Urls 0.9.0 - Copies and pastes all urls of open tabs inclusive history in structured and well defined form to and from the clipboard.
- Domain Details 2.6 - Displays Server Type, Headers, IP Address, Location Flag, and links to Whois Reports. Displays addition error information when page fails to load.
- FabTabs 1.3.4.1 - Make your tabs look fabulous!
- KGen 0.6
- Mouseless Browsing 0.5.2.2 - Browse the web without the mouse Smile
- OpenBook 2.0.1.1 - Allows for customization of the Add Bookmark dialog
- Split Browser 0.6.2009110501 - Splits browser window as you like.

Total Extensions: 49

Installed Themes: [3]
- Default
- LittleFox 1.8.57 - LittleFox, designed for optimal screen usage, leaving lots of room for browsing. Based on icons from art.gnome.org. Includes support for help, inspector, downloadmgr, forecastfox, downloadstatusbar, offline and many more. To uninstall first make this theme active, then 'uninstall' it.
- Slickerfox 2.0.6 - slicker simpler smaller flatter fuller foxier.

Installed Plugins: (7)
- Default Plugin: libnullplugin.so
- The default plugin handles plugin data for mimetypes and extensions that are not specified and facilitates downloading of new plugins.
- gxine starter plugin: gxineplugin.so
- will start external gxine media player for embedded media streams
- Scalable Vector Graphics: libmozsvgdec.so
- Scalable Vector Graphics, as handled by RSVG-2.22.3. Views SVG images.<br><br>This is alpha software. It will probably behave in many situations, but may also ride your motorcycle, drink all your milk, or use your computer to browse porn. Comments, feature requests, and patches are welcome.<br><br>See <a href="http://librsvg.sourceforge.net/">http://librsvg.sourceforge.net/</a> for information.<br><br>
- Shockwave Flash: libflashplayer_stardustdefalt.so
- Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
- Shockwave Flash: libflashplayer10.so
- Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42
- Shockwave Flash: libflashplayer9.so
- Shockwave Flash 9.0 r260
- Silverlight Plug-In: libmoonloaderxpi.so
- 3.0.40818.0
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 18:12    Post subject:  

Don't bother with translate addons there are a wast of space. Google's auto translate JavaScript Bookmark does a fine job.
http://translate.google.com/translate_tools?hl=en&layout=1&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 22:35    Post subject:  

Firefox notes:

Bookmarks added to /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/defaults/profile/bookmarks.html
(so far only the forum - what others?)

bug 196406 is fixed so I enabled pipelining (allows compressed pages similar to opera turbo for pages that support it)
/usr/lib/firefox-3.6/greprefs/all.js

pref("network.http.pipelining" , true);
pref("network.http.pipelining.ssl" , true); // disable pipelining over SSL
pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);

I did not change this, but it may speed up finding sites if set to true:
pref("network.dns.disableIPv6", false);

We don't have helvetica - so I added DejaVuSans the /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/defaults/profile/chrome/userChrome.css

window {
font-family: DejaVuSans !important;
}

#urlbar {
font-family: DejaVuSans !important;
}

{
font-family: DejaVuSans !important;
}

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 23:23    Post subject:  

Hi techno as Firefox and puppy goes, I don't think Firefox would be complete without my custom plugins I usually put in it Smile
Just extract the package below in the folder /firefox/searchplugins
usually I make the default search murga forum Smile
ttuuxxx
Firefox-Searchplugins.tar.gz
Description 
gz

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Filename  Firefox-Searchplugins.tar.gz 
Filesize  4.54 KB 
Downloaded  751 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 13:57    Post subject:  

@ ttuuxxx - thanks I modified some of your search plugins a bit - replaced http://www.puppylinux.ca/ with puppylinux.* .... this will have it search all puppylinux sites ... also barry's blog is now at bkhome.org, so that is changed & I may add ibiblio
... future versions may benefit from distro.ibiblio.org/.../petpackages-5 & packages.debian.org

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Mar 2010, 20:16    Post subject: portable apps
Subject description: in puppy
 

what about RUNZ

http://hacktolive.org/wiki/RUNZ

way to run (and install) software on Linux?

that would make google earth, foxit pdf, etc. run on puppy.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Mar 2010, 06:36    Post subject:  

I haven't had time to look at this one yet.
Despite my well-known views about browsers, frankly, I am not prepared to waste even more time with distros using Seamonkey alone. I simply don't have time to d/l Firefox, Fire*** or Opera, Dillo, whatever and be sure of getting the correct version. This has become mission critical because it cannot connect to the configuration monitor programs of so many routers. This is particularly annoying as the old Netsurf that was used to display the 'Help' page has also disappeared. In particular, the Huweii(?) modem is becoming widespread now and is one that doesn't show in SM.
Although I prefer Opera and 10.50 is generally reckoned to knock socks off anything else out there, I am quite happy to use Firethingy instead. It is unacceptable in today's market that this obsession with wrongly designated compatible browsers allegedly free of restrictions be foisted upon an unsuspecting user. As far as I remember, all browsers share commonality with Mosaic, some with Arachne, (inter alia) - both subsumed into commercial as well as non-commercial products now.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 22:39    Post subject: Just an update
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I'm sure you on it. But SeaMonkey went "gold" a while back. Maybe time to include version 2 in the mix.

Also, is there a way to tell what Puppy version I'm running from either a desktop command or a CLI Terminal command?

So far, alpha seem OK.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 01:19    Post subject:  

cat /etc/puppyversion

woof built versions may use /etc/DISTROSPECS also

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 14:44    Post subject:  

Quote:
cat /etc/puppyversion

'Fraid not. Recently, the appearance or otherwise of 'puppyversion' has been sporadic not only in the the developers flagship titles, but also Quirky and many third party derivatives. Most annoying. Probably some standardised reference to version basis needs to embedded deeply within the core, not to say kernel, of all offerings?
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Mar 2010, 01:05    Post subject:  

zigbert wrote:

A note: Viewnior doesn't open file with non-english chars in name (at least not norwegian chars). There should be plenty of alternatives to choose.


Viewnior does open files with non-english chars! You just have to turn on "Utf-8 for applications" from the X settings.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Mar 2010, 07:14    Post subject:  

PUPSTATE (cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE) gives some useful info also.
It would be nice if uname -r would be reported in PUPSTATE also.

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