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phogi

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 19:47    Post subject:  Loving Puppy Linux  

You know what I love about this operating system? The KILL command. I tell a program to go to hell and it is instantly gone. Try THAT in windows XP!
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 20:13    Post subject:  

Not difficult to do in Windows through the task manager, but you're right on puppy.
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phogi

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 20:20    Post subject:  

Well, I have lots of experience trying to 'end now' with programs in xp, through the task manager too. Sometimes it still meant a 4 minute wait.

With puppy, it says 'kill' when I right click. I don't have to ctrl-alt-del, wait several minutes, 'end now' wait several minutes. repeat if that didn't work, etc..
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 21:18    Post subject:  

phogi wrote:
Well, I have lots of experience trying to 'end now' with programs in xp, through the task manager too. Sometimes it still meant a 4 minute wait.

With puppy, it says 'kill' when I right click. I don't have to ctrl-alt-del, wait several minutes, 'end now' wait several minutes. repeat if that didn't work, etc..

In XP, I use Sysinternal's Process Explorer, which is Task Manager on steroids. How long it takes to terminate a process depends upon what the process is doing. Some things involving hardware access may not be able to terminate immediately, and in some cases a harw3are reset is the only recourse.

In Linux, you might want to look at the htop program. It's a console mode process manager similar to top, but will let you do things like select a program in the list with the cursor and terminate it.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 22:29    Post subject: Re: Loving Puppy Linux  

phogi wrote:
You know what I love about this operating system? The KILL command. I tell a program to go to hell and it is instantly gone. Try THAT in windows XP!


Xkill (attached) is a little program that will do the same with a single mouse click on the window of the offending program. You can run it from a menu item, create a desktop icon for it, or just enter xkill (no ampersand) at a console prompt, like in rxvt. The cursor will change to a skull and crossbones, the program will die and (if possible) go to hell when you click on the window, and then the cursor will change back to normal. This works even when a program freezes up and you can't kill it just by clicking the close button, right-clicking the taskbar, or whatnot. There's little use for it since that seldom happens on Puppy, but every now and then it does come in handy.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 19:01    Post subject: Early Puppies had a bomb  

Early puppies had a small bomb symbol you could click on to kill misbehaving apps. It was a proper 19th century anarchist's bomb as well - a black sphere with a sparking fuse on top. Ahh, the good old days! Wait, what am I saying?
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Mar 2010, 04:09    Post subject: Re: Loving Puppy Linux  

phogi wrote:
You know what I love about this operating system? The KILL command. I tell a program to go to hell and it is instantly gone. Try THAT in windows XP!


Man, awesome, love the phrase. I know what ya mean about XP, I hate that wait, and sometimes, if you're impatient like me, you get 10 task managers and that freezes even worse... noooo

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 09:07    Post subject:  

phogi wrote:
Well, I have lots of experience trying to 'end now' with programs in xp, through the task manager too. Sometimes it still meant a 4 minute wait.

Really?

Now, I don't like the average Windows by any measure, but there are two ways to kill a process from the task manager (at least in XP), and one is actually pretty effective in my experience.

The first is what the average user might try, wherein programs- and not all of them- are listed by their descriptive name and an icon. Killing from that section seems to be like shooing flies: laborious, ineffective and full of comical flailing.
The second, though, just lists the actual processes- again, not all of them, but a lot more. There are no icons, and you can tell it's the right screen because the processes tend to end in an *.exe extension. This screen usually works for me, but you have to figure out what each process is. Sometimes that's easy, sometimes it isn't.

And is it just me, or is Ctrl-Alt-Del the long way to the task manager? I've always used Ctrl-Shift-Esc in WinXP.

phogi wrote:
With puppy, it says 'kill' when I right click. I don't have to ctrl-alt-del, wait several minutes, 'end now' wait several minutes. repeat if that didn't work, etc..

Yeah, it is nice having it accessible from the window manager, isn't it?
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