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ttuuxxx


Joined: 05 May 2007
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Mar 2010, 23:07    Post subject:  

8-bit wrote:
As to abiword not working, it requires a gnome library file.
I tried starting it from a terminal and it could not find that library file.

# abiword
abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#
Nuff said,


second post on page one has the missing lib, I compiled it on quirky and packaged it with 4 series dir2pet script..
so I'll have to repackage it later for woof when we get the dir2pet script working again, I did try Barry's fix but it didn't fix it.

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Mar 2010, 23:46    Post subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
Would not start xorg (black screen freeze) with my Inspiron 700m,
intel 855gm graphics. Same problem with most Quirkys.



I looked into that for you, I guess newer Xorg's have issue with that, also If you look at my image below you'll notice the menus icons have a black background, its only been like this on Quirky, which Quirky has the newest Xorg of 5 series, I also read that Debian lenny worked fine intel 855gm graphics by using xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver which doesn't look like that driver has been updated since lenny at debian, which is strange, that means probably Debian Sid and Squeeze won't work on your pc either, now what I'm getting at is that It looks like I might have to compile an older Xorg-server to use with Tpup to fix your issues and my and beems black icons mess. hmmm I might try one thing first, lol
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 00:25    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx

Here is that lib in Barry's repo

http://bkhome.org/binaries/t2/8.0rc/libgnomeprintui-2.18.4.tar.bz2

Not sure if the woof build missed it or if it is an error in the scripts, Confused

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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 01:07    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:
Would not start xorg (black screen freeze) with my Inspiron 700m,
intel 855gm graphics. Same problem with most Quirkys.



I looked into that for you, I guess newer Xorg's have issue with that, also If you look at my image below you'll notice the menus icons have a black background, its only been like this on Quirky, which Quirky has the newest Xorg of 5 series, I also read that Debian lenny worked fine intel 855gm graphics by using xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver which doesn't look like that driver has been updated since lenny at debian, which is strange, that means probably Debian Sid and Squeeze won't work on your pc either, now what I'm getting at is that It looks like I might have to compile an older Xorg-server to use with Tpup to fix your issues and my and beems black icons mess. hmmm I might try one thing first, lol
ttuuxxx


The 855gm is a bit of a turkey with linux in general.
For example: With the different 4.xx series puppies I use, it will
not do correct color sync with dvd or video files using gxine,
mplayer, or vlc using xorg. It does work fine with xvesa.

Amazingly, it will work with MiPup2; but xvesa in MiPup2 doesn't.

Svideo out is not usable with Puppy or any other Linux os either,
a well known issue at Ubuntu.
I'm going to give Super OS Buntu a try and see if they have it
sorted out.

Thanks

I like the black background behind the menu items. Smile

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 01:42    Post subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:


Svideo out is not usable with Puppy or any other Linux os either,
a well known issue at Ubuntu.


S-video only works for me like this, make sure the tv is one before you turn the pc on with S-video input selected on your tv.
When you bootup do the xorg-test, and ctrl+Alt+backspace and then select no, and the next screen select "Generic drivers" then do the test and and press ctrl+Alt+backspace and select "ok" and you should be good to go.
Only the combination of "Generic drivers" plus the screen test ever worked for me, That's with about 8 different graphic cards with S-video. Any other method wouldn't, Generic drivers and Screen test after. Plus aways the tv has to be on before you boot and S-video input selected. You can't turn the tv on after its loaded the generic drives. So
- Tv on first,
- Pc on second,
- screen test, select no
- select generic drivers,
- screen test,
-select ok
done

ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 02:36    Post subject:  

Tried the svideo tip, didn't work.
I remember trying that with a different laptop before; it worked
but only had grey-scale, no color, with puppy.
Had to get it into "tweak" in order to use generic drivers.
No big deal; my tv screen isn't much larger than my laptop screen.

Super OS plays xorg dvd and video files fine.
A big mother of an os; if Puppy disappears from the face of the
earth, I might even use it.

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stu90


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
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Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup

PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 09:29    Post subject:  

Boots ok frugal on dell inspiron 1501 - enabled touchpad tapping for mouse in keyboard/mouse wizard but its not working?

touchpad is listed as synps/2 synaptics touchpad in hard.info.
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Béèm


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Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 17:49    Post subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
I like the black background behind the menu items. Smile
I don't. Mad
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 19:05    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx,

Thank you for this tpup.

Abiword still doesn't work after installing the libgnomeprint pet. However, this may be related to another problem that I've had. I tried to install Firefox 3.6 and it appeared to install fine, but wouldn't work so then I installed dbus and dbus-glib pets. This resulted in breaking Seamonkey too.

I'm posting from an Opera10.10 which is working fine.

Other successes were to install Wine 1.1.40 and e-Sword951.

Please consider modifying your gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486.pet-uj to run with tpup also which has been a super addition to upup and dpup.

Looking forward to future releases,
Jim
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 20:24    Post subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
Hi ttuuxxx,

Thank you for this tpup.

Abiword still doesn't work after installing the libgnomeprint pet. However, this may be related to another problem that I've had. I tried to install Firefox 3.6 and it appeared to install fine, but wouldn't work so then I installed dbus and dbus-glib pets. This resulted in breaking Seamonkey too.

(snip)
Jim


Jim, maybe try expanding the libgnomeprint I linked to in Barry's repo. Not sure if it will work but it is a compatible lib.

You will have to delete the dbus libs and restore the originals from /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/lib if running frugal or off the CD if running full. It will be only a matter of "when" ttuuxxx compiles FF for tpup Laughing . I'm sure it will happen. Wink

(..and if you install Pwidgets, I know you probably will, it will need the same treatment as in Quirky Wink )
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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 20:50    Post subject: nv and nouveau  

rjbrewer wrote:
Would not start xorg (black screen freeze) with my Inspiron 700m,
intel 855gm graphics. Same problem with most Quirkys.

ttuuxxx wrote:
I looked into that for you, I guess newer Xorg's have issue with that

using GeForce 8800GTX with vesa driver on tpup-001.
Both nv and nouveau drivers never work on tpup-001 or on quirky-008. nv driver worked on puppy-4.3.1.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 20:52    Post subject:  

01micko,
Thanks, but I'll just wait for his next release.
Jim
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 20:54    Post subject: Re: Abiword  

Jim1911 wrote:
Abiword still doesn't work after installing the libgnomeprint pet.

It sais libwv missing.
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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 22:31    Post subject:  

Same Abiword problem as everyone.....added lib from second post....no change. Added lib posted by 01micko....no change either.

Added AlsaPlayer/Streamtuner pet....works fine and no problems with Firefox 3.6 yet.

Seems like a real solid release. Smile
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clarf


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Location: The old Lone Wolf

PostPosted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 23:18    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:

So I am stuck here.

EDIT

Well, all of sudden I remembered something from the good old times and saw the light.
Copied the zxxxxx.sfs to /mnt/home and now I can configure the network devices again.



I had the same results with my devices after frugal install, as Béèm reported this is a well know behavior for Woof based derivatives. See my old bug report for Puppy 4.3.1: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy//viewtopic.php?t=46594&start=189

Although ttuuxxx used the latest Woof build, I found some other problems relate to woof that were reported long time ago.

For example the init script copied the tpup-001.sfs file to same partition than pup_save file after second boot, although I specified to not copy that file at first shutdown (pup_save creation phase). It copied it at second boot to a partition without enough disk space producing a damaged file and causing a kernel panic error at third boot. I reported it in dpup thread last year: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47592&start=303

I hope someday Barry fix those weird bugs in Woof, then we´ll have a stable base to construct new Puppy´s derivatives.

The library problem with libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.0 reported for Abiword, also affect inkscapelite and surely many other apps.

Ayytm Chat application didn´t work either, error loading share libraries: libXss.so.1

I´ll do more test and give feedback.

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