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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 04:17 Post_subject:
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Oh, I forgot. Quirky 008 (and 009) is missing ndiswrapper.ko. Gunzip it somewhere, like /lib/modules/2.6.33-git7/misc, then run 'depmod', then run 'sns'.
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Ndiswrapper driver for 2.6.33-git7 in Quirky 008
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7037 Location: qld
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Posted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 05:48 Post_subject:
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Hi Barry
Doing what I can here...
SNS-2 goes through the motions fine with ndiswrapper for me. However it trips at the last hurdle. It just wont connect. After I hit 'connect' nothing (apart from xmessage) happens for about 30 seconds and then I get the fail screen, rebooted 3 or 4 times. Should I expect to see blinky while trying to find an IP? The log looks fine, as do the other files in /tmp
Network wizard was the same. Scans, finds, can save, tests ok, but just won't connect..
Leaving pwireless2... connected! But, if I start with Pwireless2 I get nowhere.
Ah well, at least I can get online ok. Not bad for an old p3 600, and the connection seems stable too, I am at least 18metres from the router and it is going through a few fibro walls as well.
Cheers.
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 09:33 Post_subject:
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I'm having more problems with SNS v2 than had with v1. I've done something wrong somewhere. Will make a fresh start in the morning, see if I can track down the problem.
So, there will be another version out soon...
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capoverde

Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 231 Location: Sanremo (Italy) with fine seaview
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Posted: Sat 13 Mar 2010, 09:40 Post_subject:
SD flash card install. |
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Installed Quirky on a (Mini)Sd flash card with a USB-HD setting (BootFlash USB installer); now, this PC (Biostar M7VIW, Athlon XP 1800) won't boot from it if the BIOS's first boot device is set to a USB-HD, but boots fine setting it to a USB-ZIP drive (!?). Same problem with the keyboard layout as described in my previous post, page 3.
Hadn't immediately realized that the purple message at startup, announcing the machine's IP, means that the connection is automatically configured and ready - should read the docs sometime... Cool, Quirky is on a par with other tiny distros featuring this (but generally not much more); a nice gift Barry!
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 05:11 Post_subject:
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I am now releasing Simple Network Setup version 2.1.
This fixes a couple of killer bugs.
One of them was that I could not get WPA working with ndiswrapper, for my Netgear wg311 card. Then I read something weird posted by an Arch developer (see at bottom of page);
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant
01micko has been very helpful (and very patient), testing my releases of SNS. He has sent me pms, and he mentioned doing something somewhat like the Arch guy did.
So, I tried something like that too, and amazing, ndiswrapper worked. It also worked at bootup, however there is something strange about that, and I will need feedback from other that their ndiswrapper works with WPA both when SNS is run and at a reboot.
There were a couple of other issues that I fixed.
I need to warn again about this package. It has /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and rc.shutdown, which might break an older Puppy. Any recent Woof-build will be ok.
Note also, I posted ndiswrapper.ko to this thread, as Quirky 008 (and 009) does not have it.
I did a quick little sanity test. Built a Quirky with Woof, placed it on a USB stick, booted up my Acer Aspire One netbook, ran Simple Network Setup, was online, so easy. Rebooted, and of course created a pupsave, up she came, online. Oh joy!
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7037 Location: qld
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Posted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 06:10 Post_subject:
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Ever so close to working in the tpup I built today... I hacked it to include ndiswrapper in the build and sns-2.. that didn't work so rebooted pfix=ram and tried sns-2.1.. so close! Network wizard (dougal's) connected.
Hold the phone, will be back with Quirky-008 results in a moment (or a few). BTW, I built this tpup without Pwireless2.
Cheers
EDIT: Ok, so less than 10 minutes later I'm online with Q-008 (pfix=ram).. but.. I had exactly the same issue with sns-2.1 as in tpup, falls over at last jump..for some reason dhcpcd is just not working for me in sns. The log is correct, as in correct essid, key, channel etc. I had to resort to the network wizard, but the ndiswrapper driver was correctly loaded with sns and saved.
I'll test sns-2.1 with my save file on this old machine.
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7037 Location: qld
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Posted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 06:48 Post_subject:
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Barry
I was just experimenting on the commandline ..um .. because sns-2.1 failed on my Q-008 save file too... but I might have a break through, at least for WEP encryption anyways.
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iwconfig wlan0 key open XXXXXXXXXX |
the key (pardon pun) word being "open".. it's in tempestuous' "HOWTO"
Ran dhcpcd and straight online.
Cheers
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Here's the bugfix for WEP ONLY in sns-2.1
at line 383 in /usr/local/simple_network_setup/sns
| Code: | case $BUTSEC in
WEP)
echo "STEP5: iwconfig $INTERFACE key open $SEC_KEY" >> /tmp/sns_wireless_log
iwconfig $INTERFACE key open $SEC_KEY
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the word "open" (in lines 385 and 386) is not there.. add it and it should be all good for WEP with (and probably without) ndiswrapper.
Connected on first attempt in a matter of seconds with sns.
Cheers
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yarddog

Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Posts: 187 Location: Great Smoky Mountains, TN USA
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Posted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 14:04 Post_subject:
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Minor problem in Gnumeric. When attempt to format cells, program closes.
When run from command line receive following errors::
gnumeric
(gnumeric:11291): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
(gnumeric:11291): libglade-WARNING **: could not find glade file '/usr/share/goffice/0.6.6/glade/go-rotation-sel.glade'
(gnumeric:11291): libglade-WARNING **: could not find glade file '/usr/share/goffice/0.6.6/glade/go-format-sel.glade'
** (gnumeric:11291): CRITICAL **: go_combo_text_set_text: assertion `IS_GO_COMBO_TEXT (ct)' failed
(gnumeric:11291): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_get_selection: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_VIEW (tree_view)' failed
(gnumeric:11291): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_selection_select_path: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_SELECTION (selection)' failed
(gnumeric:11291): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: gsignal.c:2310: instance `(nil)' has no handler with id `0'
(gnumeric:11291): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion `GTK_IS_ENTRY (entry)' failed
(gnumeric:11291): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: gsignal.c:2352: instance `(nil)' has no handler with id `0'
Segmentation fault
information only for future release
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Leon
Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 217 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 19:35 Post_subject:
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| BarryK wrote: | | I am now releasing Simple Network Setup version 2.1. |
I tested Simple Network Setup version 2.1 on Sony Vaio VGN-CS215J laptop with Quirky 008 manual frugal installed and booted with pfix=ram.
Simple Network Setup version 2.1
At first I tried to setup my wireless connection by using Simple Network Setup version 2.1.
All attempts to setup my wireless connection failed.
See the attached log file.
Puppy Network Wizard
After that, I managed to successfully setup my wireless connection by using Puppy Network Wizard without any problem, the same as in previous Quirky versions.
See the attached profile picture.
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mmmrr

Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 123 Location: vancouver island, canada
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 00:03 Post_subject:
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simple network setup seems foiled by hidden ssid
otherwise, smooth progress on elderly p-2 laptop,
which runs wireless with 412, 214X,,cheers, mm
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 05:50 Post_subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | Barry
I was just experimenting on the commandline ..um .. because sns-2.1 failed on my Q-008 save file too... but I might have a break through, at least for WEP encryption anyways.
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iwconfig wlan0 key open XXXXXXXXXX |
the key (pardon pun) word being "open".. it's in tempestuous' "HOWTO"
Ran dhcpcd and straight online.
Cheers
############################
Here's the bugfix for WEP ONLY in sns-2.1
at line 383 in /usr/local/simple_network_setup/sns
| Code: | case $BUTSEC in
WEP)
echo "STEP5: iwconfig $INTERFACE key open $SEC_KEY" >> /tmp/sns_wireless_log
iwconfig $INTERFACE key open $SEC_KEY
;; |
the word "open" (in lines 385 and 386) is not there.. add it and it should be all good for WEP with (and probably without) ndiswrapper.
Connected on first attempt in a matter of seconds with sns.
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01micko,
Would you mind testing this:
| Code: | case $BUTSEC in
WEP)
echo "STEP5: iwconfig $INTERFACE key open $SEC_KEY" >> /tmp/sns_wireless_log
iwconfig $INTERFACE key open
iwconfig $INTERFACE key $SEC_KEY
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I'm trying to understand just what that "key open" does. The docs sure are muddy.
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BarryK
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 06:13 Post_subject:
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01micko,
I've been reading. It seems that that "key open", although it works for you, might not for others. So, I might do this in the script:
iwconfig wlan0 key <key>
then run just 'iwconfig' and see if there is a valid entry for "Access point:"
If not, then run this:
iwconfig wlan0 key open <key>
Um, let's see, to put this into the script, temporary technique just for testing:
| Code: | iwconfig $INTERFACE key $SEC_KEY
sleep 10
[ "`iwconfig $INTERFACE | grep 'Not-Associated'`" != "" ] && iwconfig $INTERFACE key open $SEC_KEY |
...I presume that you would get "Not-Associated", but you could check, just stick another 'iwconfig $INTERFACE' and see output in terminal:
| Code: | iwconfig $INTERFACE key $SEC_KEY
sleep 10
iwconfig $INTERFACE
[ "`iwconfig $INTERFACE | grep 'Not-Associated'`" != "" ] && iwconfig $INTERFACE key open $SEC_KEY |
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BarryK
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 06:20 Post_subject:
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Another thing to be aware of with WEP. I have only been working with hexadecimal WEP keys. They can be entered in ascii, but that requires a "s:" prefix, for example "s:abcdefghijklm" -- if I recall rightly, 13 characters required for a 128bit WEP key.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:12 Post_subject:
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| BarryK wrote: | | Another thing to be aware of with WEP. I have only been working with hexadecimal WEP keys. They can be entered in ascii, but that requires a "s:" prefix, for example "s:abcdefghijklm" -- if I recall rightly, 13 characters required for a 128bit WEP key. | For the moment I am in a holiday resort and got a 5 letter ascii key for WEP.
I give s:abcde and it works.
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7037 Location: qld
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:55 Post_subject:
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Hi Barry
I did try the new adjustment to sns, but it did not work, However I was not running pfix=ram. Will try that this afternoon.
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