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Tpup 001 SCSI, 2.6.31.5 smp Woof puppy 5 (maybe:) ) 102MB
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 03:38    Post subject:
Subject description: hi
 

ttuuxxx wrote:

- When we get a working a kernel for olpc, I'll include an extra version with it included on a regular basis.
ttuuxxx


You mean the Tpup kernel working on OLPC or a(ny) kernel that will boot Tpup on OLPC?

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 00:01    Post subject:  

Here's a Abiword fix, it contains,
libgnomeprint-2.18.6
libgnomeprintui-2.18.4
wv-1.2.7
ttuuxxx
abiword-fix.pet
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pet

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Filename  abiword-fix.pet 
Filesize  527.59 KB 
Downloaded  806 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 00:06    Post subject:
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mavrothal wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:

- When we get a working a kernel for olpc, I'll include an extra version with it included on a regular basis.
ttuuxxx


You mean the Tpup kernel working on OLPC or a(ny) kernel that will boot Tpup on OLPC?


Hi mavrothal I would like to keep it as the same kernel but configured for XO, This would be the ideal method for compiling drivers etc, I'm currently using 2.6.31.5 for Tpup, there is a newer kernel, but I ready on Barry's blog it was buggy so I went with the more stable version.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 00:24    Post subject:  

Abiword works now......thanks for the quick fix. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 05:29    Post subject:
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ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi mavrothal I would like to keep it as the same kernel but configured for XO, This would be the ideal method for compiling drivers etc, I'm currently using 2.6.31.5 for Tpup, there is a newer kernel, but I ready on Barry's blog it was buggy so I went with the more stable version.
ttuuxxx


This is unlikely. There are olpc kernel-hacks that are not upstream. So trying an olpc config with the vanila kernel is not going to work.

BTW aufs-patched olpc-kernel works fine with Tpup with the usual problems quirky has on the XO (Xorg, alsa, acpi etc)

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 06:05    Post subject:
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mavrothal wrote:


This is unlikely. There are olpc kernel-hacks that are not upstream. So trying an olpc config with the vanila kernel is not going to work.

BTW aufs-patched olpc-kernel works fine with Tpup with the usual problems quirky has on the XO (Xorg, alsa, acpi etc)


Well couldn't those kernel-hacks also work on newer kernels? Plus I never like the word "Dirty Kernel" on a kernel, it just sounds wrong.
I sent Micko one of my 2 XO and he received it today, so I guess he'll be joining the XO puppy project soon.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 06:16    Post subject:
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ttuuxxx wrote:

Well couldn't those kernel-hacks also work on newer kernels?

not that I know of
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Plus I never like the word "Dirty Kernel" on a kernel, it just sounds wrong.

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OK. I'll change it to PATCHED I guess.
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I sent Micko one of my 2 XO and he received it today, so I guess he'll be joining the XO puppy project soon.
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 12:50    Post subject:  

I also tried building apup but that failed really bad, then I tried spup, and that worked, it has a couple small issues, that I'll look at, but the video drivers work much better than Tpup/Quirky. The iso with all the drivers was 110MB, probably 103MB +/- for a regular version.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 17:17    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
I also tried building apup but that failed really bad, then I tried spup, and that worked, it has a couple small issues, that I'll look at, but the video drivers work much better than Tpup/Quirky. The iso with all the drivers was 110MB, probably 103MB +/- for a regular version.
ttuuxxx


If you are referring to the XO, check also if the olpc keyboard in included with the Xorg. Tpup/Quirky do not have it.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 22:49    Post subject: Very dark desktop  

hey ttuuxxx,

Been waiting for an "xorg-7.5" tryout on puppy. Installed from HDD to HDD. On first bootup from HDD, all loaded o.k, but screen/desktop is very dark, nearly un-viewable. Able to access apps with icons so appears stuff is working o.k. Installed to hardrive, on first bootup, same...screen/desktop very dark, again stuff appears working but viewing horrible.

Hardware: gpu, ATI X800XT, Sony KLV-S32A10 LCD (tv as monitor via VGA)

Of interest "Quirky-008" also has the same "darkness" issue and both are using the same base. Have had no such issue with any puppy derivatives or other distros with this hardware setup, including upup and dpup. My main interest here is the latest SMP-kernel and latest Xorg.

Only thing I've tried was disabling "acpi", in case "brightness (for certain LCDs)" was creating problems, but, no-joy there. Any hints/clues/pointers to possible fixes appreciated, otherwise, it's either the kernel or xorg???

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 10:38    Post subject: Re: Very dark desktop  

black wrote:
hey ttuuxxx,

Been waiting for an "xorg-7.5" tryout on puppy. Installed from HDD to HDD. On first bootup from HDD, all loaded o.k, but screen/desktop is very dark, nearly un-viewable. Able to access apps with icons so appears stuff is working o.k. Installed to hardrive, on first bootup, same...screen/desktop very dark, again stuff appears working but viewing horrible.

Hardware: gpu, ATI X800XT, Sony KLV-S32A10 LCD (tv as monitor via VGA)

Of interest "Quirky-008" also has the same "darkness" issue and both are using the same base. Have had no such issue with any puppy derivatives or other distros with this hardware setup, including upup and dpup. My main interest here is the latest SMP-kernel and latest Xorg.

Only thing I've tried was disabling "acpi", in case "brightness (for certain LCDs)" was creating problems, but, no-joy there. Any hints/clues/pointers to possible fixes appreciated, otherwise, it's either the kernel or xorg???

black


Hi Black

I've mentioned this and others experiences with Xorg to Barry on his Developers Blog, I even asked him to maybe downgrade Xorg to the version in 4.3, That version worked well on just about anything. Plus the newer Xorg looks like it stopped support for some older drivers.
But yes I'll keep the SMP kernel Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 16:23    Post subject: feedback
Subject description: dark desktop issue resolved
 

hey ttuuxxx, all,

Fixed! Quirky-base on my hardware doesn't fly right with the standard xorg setup. Dropped in my own "xorg.conf" (full harddrive install) with default depth set > 24 and "tpup" is happy. Installed "mesa", and "tpup" is very happy!

Then went back to "quirky-008" (boot < HDD), tweaked xorg for default depth @ 24, and it came up to desktop with a "brite-smile" also. Darkness issue vanquished!

This may be problematic for noobs, configuring xorg for picky hardware, in a console, but, a good way for noobs to gain 'nix-smarts. Perhaps an addition to the "initial xorg setup" with default-depth selection?

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