Small Windowmanager Enlightenment DR 16-7

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#41 Post by bombayrockers »

This looks very impressive, its tempting me to give up my present setup of icewm + rox, but I like to wait until MU releases the finished product.

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#42 Post by cygnus »

I was all geared up to install it, but I think I too will wait until the finished all-in-one dotPup is available. I still can't wait, though...

I think we should put together a Puplet called PuppyEnlightened, which features the Enlightenment desktop. I agree with Lobster - this is what Puppy should look like.
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#43 Post by MU »

you already can install now.
Now with the inbuilt menu it is quite easy to use.
And the dotpups all register to pupget,so you can remove them later easily (and delete /root/.enlightenment).
I added them all to the first message (except the last theme).

It would be good, to get a " feedback/todo -list", as some minor things are not ok.
For example the menu-editor seems not to be able to create new submenus. It can handle existiing ones, but just create no new ones.
If you open "files.menu", you see it adds "exec" instead of "menu".
So a small tool or patch might be needed to workaround that.
And some themes use fonts not available/usable in Puppy.
So default-fonts are used, which are too big for the epplets.

In the last creative-theme, I replaced all font-entries with Vera/6 to Vera/8.
Vera is the font of the default-theme "Winter".
So I symlinked the Creative-folder /ttfont to /usr/share/enlightenment/themes/winter/ttfonts
Like this that theme can use the Vera- truetype font.
This also will allow to keep the themes smaller, as I can remove nonworking fonts.
So a lot of small details.

modifiying themes
A theme works like this:
You put a themexyz.etheme in /usr/share/enlightenment/themes/
This is just a .tar.gz that automatically extracts to /root/.enlightenment/themes when it is chosen first time.
Then you can modify those files.
If everything is corrected, you make a new .tar.gz from the files inside /root/.enlightenment/themes/themexyz/
Then you rename it to themexyz-new.etheme

Not every theme you can download at http://freshmeat.net follows these rules - several were built for older versions.
So I had to repackage them to get them working in 16-7.

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#44 Post by cygnus »

I couldn't wait, I installed it now. It's incredible. I'm never going back to IceWM. I'll post screen shots later...
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#45 Post by cygnus »

Even at 800 x 600, Enlightenment looks great...

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#46 Post by Rhino »

That is a nice wallpaper, Cygnus. I also like the simple row of icons at the bottom.

How resource intensive is Enlightenment compared to the small Window Managers like IceWM or JWM? How can you tell?

At what specs would this Window Manager become too slow?
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#47 Post by Nevermore »

rhino i can tell you that on my 300mhz 192mb ram celeron the speed of jwm and enligh is the same.
the memory used is 10mb highter with enlightenment..
and unless u turn on the effects (ripples and waves) even the cpu seems as low as jwm.
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#48 Post by MU »

Theme-mix of Azteker2000/Azteker, heavily overworked.

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Big Screenshot: http://dotpups.de/dotpups/WindowManager ... 000-mu.jpg

The launchbar on the left is part of the Theme, I "puppyfied" the entries.

Download (500 kb):
*removed*

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#49 Post by MU »

fixed BlackE_nob -theme

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*removed*

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#50 Post by MU »

fixed Darkone-theme:
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#51 Post by MU »

Aqua-Theme

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Download (1.1 MB)
*removed*

This made some problems.
As the windows have no border, it just looks good, if you activate shadows for your Xserver.
But then you got a "corrupted" Top-bar with the original theme from freshmeat.net.
You could see, that the menu was made up of small grafics, each dropping shadows.
So I removed the menu from the Topbar.
But tobe able, to keep the round corners on the top-bar, I had to use 1 picture of fixed witdh - so this just looks good with a resolution of 1024 pixel width.
For other resolutions you must edit
/root/.enlightenment/themes/Aqua-mu/buttons/images/macos-logo.png in mtpaint or Gimp.

I also get some small artifacts with shadows enabled.

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#52 Post by MU »

Ok, could reduce/remove the artifacts over the titlebars.
Uploaded the theme again.

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#53 Post by rgershey »

The 'button' icons on Rhino's Cheetah desktop are great! Are they available for download somewhere?

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#55 Post by MU »

I updated these 3 themes.

*removed*
Aqua-mu.pup
azteker2000-mu.pup
darkone-mu.pup

Changes to all:
fixed Display-errors when shadows are activated.

New in Azteker:
A "Puppy-Button".
It can display the tasklist, the main-menu, or toggle the visibility of the launchbar.
I also changed the menufont, as though the old one looked cool, it was difficult to read.

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#56 Post by Nevermore »

MU i tried your themes and they look great..
also the new integration of menu into emenu is great..
however i get duplicate entries in the menues...
i've duplicate shutdowns, duplicate proggies, duplicate all but dotpups..
which file should i edit?
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#57 Post by MU »

:shock: that's strange...

Try
middleclick to Desktop -> maintainance - purge all caches.
Then logout X and restart xwin.

If that does not help, you might delete the whole folder /root/.enlightenment
But this will delete your personal settings, too.

Then E will start with afresh configuration.

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#58 Post by Nevermore »

yes it didn't help...
i am starting over by uninstalling the old packages and installing the updated ones also..
lets see how it goes :D
the most bothersome stuff is that i've to reinstall also puppy menu that went blank after deleting .enlightenment and didn't show up anymore even with menu regeneration..
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#59 Post by Nevermore »

oki i fixed..
i had to delete ./enlightenment dir but now it works..
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#60 Post by trapster »

How do you change the font size in the different themes? The menu fonts seem small and hard to read for these old eyes.

I am currently running the shade theme and it seems the mods are endless with enlightenment!

Great....more hours trying to figure out another toy :lol:

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