Quirky 010 feedback

[BarryK]

Brief announcement:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... readme.htm

Download from here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... uirky-010/

Everyone is welcome to test!

Some extra notes:

Unionfs
This kernel uses Unionfs, but Jemimah reports that Unionfs 2.5.4 needs a patch that prevents crashing sometimes, when using Firefox and some other apps. Haven't had it crash on me yet. Just so you know. I'll apply the patch next time I compile the kernel.

Xorg
The ATI driver was updated. Let me know if this has got better or worse since earlier Quirkies.

[01micko]

Hi Barry

Running Quirky 0.1 (live) and downloaded Firefox 3.6 and am posting from it now with no problems. Incidentally, SNS connected flawlessly.

I seem to recall we had problems in 431 development with FF 3.5.x and Union fs. I did a compile of 3.6 beta at the time and it worked flawlessly then but the 3.5.x versions crashed the system. Perhaps that is what jemimah was referring to, I'm not sure. Flash seems fine and all.

Still has the black background where transparency should be in the menu and gtk apps.

I have an old ATI card, 9200pro, works just fine, uses correct driver (radeon) ootb.

Cheers.

[pemasu]

First impression. Updated from Quirky 008 to 010 with xdelta. Starting with fresh savefile. So frugal install.
ATI radeon driver works as it should. Acer laptop brightness control works still !!!!
Filesystem inode errors after two reboots has vanished. With Quirky 008 I got them with every boot.
SNS works straight. Dont know yet if it remembers configuration.

Touchpad still needs three times bigger values for normal movements to xorg.conf to certain rows.

Installed Firefox3.5.6.pet and upgraded to 3.5.8 and then to 3.6. Expecting crash but nothing so far.. Feeling really fearless now...

Looks really promising....

[edoc]

Does Quirky 010 support "extended monitors", or is that something that could easily be "WOOFed" out of Unbuntu or another distro?

See thread ...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 301#402301

[`f00]

@01micko - and gtk apps? If I recall correctly for myself, it was only jwm's alpha handling that was at issue. Joy if Xorg gets the ati cards proper (have 2, a 9200 agp and 9200SE pci-old-style .. so it should be interesting to see if the bus goes as I have it set up in BIOS). L8r..

[Terryphi]

It's a crasher. Running OpenOffice writer totally freezes Quirky 010. A reboot is necessary to recover. Fortunately, nothing appears to be corrupted as a result of this. I am using openoffice-3.1.1-sfs4.sfs which caused no problem with Quirky 006.

[pemasu]

Thunderbird 3.0 launched from /mnt/home/thunderbird folder crashes Quirky also. New feature to the thunderd. It has worked flawlessly on many puppies.

[jemimah]

Usually, you can run dmesg and see what the error is after a unionfs-related crash.

The openoffice writer crash, I experienced this on Puppeee, wasn't an unionfs problem. It locked up too hard to even run any commands on the command line. To figure it out, you can run 'strace swriter' and see what it is doing right before it dies. The swriter crash went away for me when I went to 2.6.33.1, so maybe this is something else.

[Jim1911]

Running Quirky-010, it updated pupsave from 090 without a problem and is running great. Then devx, Openoffice 3.2, and Opera sfs were added.

I did have a problem as mentioned before, except it was with Openoffice-3-2 sfs and my pupsave was corrupted. However, booting into dpup and running e2fsck on it saved the pupsave.

Software working fine:
1. Firefox 3.6
2. Opera 10.10
3. Wine 1.1.40
4. e-Sword951
5. pwidgets 2.2.4, however to get it to run properly, symlink libxcb.so.1 had to be removed (thanks to 01micko).
EDIT: Converted pupsave.2fs to 3fs using tune2fs -j, and edited initrd.gz so that it mounts properly as a journaled file system on an ext3 partition. It's running fine. Also runs fine on an ext4 partition.

[tronkel]

Latest Thunderbird sitting on the home drive worked for me.

New SNS is awesome. Loaded the WLAN0 wireless interface and connected first time. Also remembered the connection after creating a pup_save and rebooting.

ATI Radeon driver 3450 loaded and configured correctly from live CD.

Will play with openoffice.org later.

Very promising so far.

[8-bit]

I was kind of disappointed that the autoconnect feature of network setup was not included.
But, Pup radio/ Pup telly with Mplayer on going to full screen retained the small window size even when trying to go to full screen.
I also would like to see us get away from the SeaMonkey 1.1.8 version as it is no longer supported.
My 2 cents worth.

[Terryphi]

Usually, you can run dmesg and see what the error is after a unionfs-related crash.

The openoffice writer crash, I experienced this on Puppeee, wasn't an unionfs problem. It locked up too hard to even run any commands on the command line. To figure it out, you can run 'strace swriter' and see what it is doing right before it dies. The swriter crash went away for me when I went to 2.6.33.1, so maybe this is something else.

OpenOffice writer freezes instantly on clicking on its icon so it is not possible to run 'strace swriter' before it dies. Everything freezes including terminal. Reboot is only way out.

[jemimah]

Don't start it at all. 'strace swriter' starts it.

In Puppeee's case it was a scheduler or process problem - I think.

I just thought I'd share some of my tricks for debugging kernel problems in case it helps anybody.

[Terryphi]

Don't start it at all. 'strace swriter' starts it.

In Puppeee's case it was a scheduler or process problem - I think.

I just thought I'd share some of my tricks for debugging kernel problems in case it helps anybody.

Much appreciated. I will try it later.

[pemasu]

Thunderbird bug report. I packaged two dmesg. One after thunderbird caused crash but console still working. The second after reboot when Quirky went unresponsiviness and I had to press power button.

There seems to be something thunderbird related in dmesgcrashbeforereboot....

[Béèm]

The file check system sure does work.
On the first boot after setup had been done, I saw a message saying: critical temp (97°C) reached, shutting down.
btw I know I have a problem with the fan in this laptop.

So boot was interrupted and a power down was done.

I left the machine a while and and the next boot the file checks were done as advertised.
Nice.

[Béèm]

As mentioned here before, the background of the icons is still black and not transparent.
Any reason for this as it is annoying.

[Béèm]

When hovering with the mouse over the desktop devices, no size is shown.
Was interesting tho.

[Béèm]

The quirky-010.sfs wasn't copied to /mnt/home as is normally the case.

[Béèm]

I can report too that Open Office crashes.
I use 3.2.0
The strace swriter didn't work as strace isn't on the system.

When starting swriter in a terminak, there was a code. Didn't write it down, but something like 15809 gail code missing.