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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 05:22    Post subject:
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Jota wrote:
BarryK wrote:

Whew, 01micko you had me worried for a minute. As it's only a JWM issue, it should be fixable.

One thing that I don't think anyone has clarified, do you get this black-background problem for both 16-bit and 24-bit color settings (chosen when you run the Xorg Wizard)?


This problem has been in Quirky since 001!! (ttuuxxx and others report several times about it!)

And yes, it only occurs with JWM, and in 24bits - in 16bits it is ok.
(I think ttuuxxx has more info about it)


I have sent an email to Joe Wing, the JWM developer, this morning. I'll send another one telling him that the problem only occurs for 24-bit.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 05:33    Post subject:  
smokey01 wrote:
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smokey01 wrote:
SNS didn't work for me. See error message.

Is it because I have a space in the ESSID?


Yes probably. Perhaps. I didn't know spaces are allowed in the essid. It may be somewhere in my scripts that I have assumed no spaces and so it's broken.


Barry I replaced the space with a hyphen between Wilsters AP to Wilsters-AP and it worked perfectly.

Thanks


Good, that identifies the problem. I'll see if I can get it fixed tonight.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 07:03    Post subject:  
Hi Barry the pet package manager still doesn't make pets.

GUI window
Press ENTER key to bring up a GUI window that will help you to create
a database entry for the package. This will be shown in a text editor
for saving somewhere, also written to file 'pet.specs' inside the pkg.
Press ENTER:

** ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 16, near token '</default>': syntax error

aborting...
Aborted creation of PET package.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 07:21    Post subject:  
tronkel wrote:
Video card is Radeon 3450

I tried switching to 1400x900 24 bit colour to 1400x900 16 bit.
With 16 bit my LCD screen went very dark. Menu icons were OK though, i.e. no black backgrounds.

Then tried to switch back to 24 bit 1400x900 by exiting to console and then running xorgwizard. On typing xwin at the console - no video at all.

Then deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ran xorgwizard again.

Back to normal screen brightness and black background for menu items.
Somewhere in this thread I read that for Radeon it's best to go to test in xorgwizard.
When I did that, I could barely see the screen and it's contents, so I started xorgwizard agin and selected the 24-bit mod and run xwin.
Now the screen is ok again.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 07:48    Post subject:  
smokey01,
Ok, I fixed it so essid can now have spaces.

01micko,
Can you try these new scripts. For the problem where you got it to work by manually typing in 'dhcpcd wlan0' afterward. When SNS fails, look at the log, it has extra logging information.

There is a timeout in the sns script where it waits for the Access Point to become available -- it will be useful to see what you are getting for that parameter -- which should be in the log.

One thing that you can try is increase the value in line 489, from 20 to say 30 seconds.
sns.gz
Description  This goes into /usr/local/simple_network_setup
 gz

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Filename  sns.gz 
Filesize  8.47 KB 
Downloaded  179 Time(s) 
rc.network.gz
Description  This goes into /usr/local/simple_network_setup
 gz

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Filename  rc.network.gz 
Filesize  2.69 KB 
Downloaded  181 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 07:51    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi Barry the pet package manager still doesn't make pets.

GUI window
Press ENTER key to bring up a GUI window that will help you to create
a database entry for the package. This will be shown in a text editor
for saving somewhere, also written to file 'pet.specs' inside the pkg.
Press ENTER:

** ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 16, near token '</default>': syntax error

aborting...
Aborted creation of PET package.

ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx,
You will have to post the package (directory) that you are trying to make into a pet package.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 08:47    Post subject:  
BarryK wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi Barry the pet package manager still doesn't make pets.

GUI window
Press ENTER key to bring up a GUI window that will help you to create
a database entry for the package. This will be shown in a text editor
for saving somewhere, also written to file 'pet.specs' inside the pkg.
Press ENTER:

** ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 16, near token '</default>': syntax error

aborting...
Aborted creation of PET package.

ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx,
You will have to post the package (directory) that you are trying to make into a pet package.


I was in /root, I opened a terminal here using rox, rt click window/terminal here
the I typed
dir2pet gconf
and then went through the regular pet scrips and it failed on the last part.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 09:18    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx wrote:
BarryK wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi Barry the pet package manager still doesn't make pets.

GUI window
Press ENTER key to bring up a GUI window that will help you to create
a database entry for the package. This will be shown in a text editor
for saving somewhere, also written to file 'pet.specs' inside the pkg.
Press ENTER:

** ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 16, near token '</default>': syntax error

aborting...
Aborted creation of PET package.

ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx,
You will have to post the package (directory) that you are trying to make into a pet package.


I was in /root, I opened a terminal here using rox, rt click window/terminal here
the I typed
dir2pet gconf
and then went through the regular pet scrips and it failed on the last part.
ttuuxxx


Ah, yes, someone else posted about that. It fails when there is no version number in the name. For example, it should be 'gconf-1.2'.

Anyway, it shouldn't fail, it should still work. What is wrong is the <default> tag for the version number in the GUI has nothing in it, which gtkdialog treats as a syntax error. Ok, I'll look into that right now.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 09:28    Post subject:  
BarryK wrote:

Ah, yes, someone else posted about that. It fails when there is no version number in the name. For example, it should be 'gconf-1.2'.

Anyway, it shouldn't fail, it should still work. What is wrong is the <default> tag for the version number in the GUI has nothing in it, which gtkdialog treats as a syntax error. Ok, I'll look into that right now.


But when I replaced dir2pet in quirk with the one from puppy 4.0 it made the pet without error. Puppy 4.0 didn't need a version number, I usually include one, but it was just a quick fix.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 09:44    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx,
Try this. It should be able to handle your 'gconf'.
petspec.gz
Description  This lives at /usr/bin
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 10:05    Post subject:  
BarryK wrote:
ttuuxxx,
Try this. It should be able to handle your 'gconf'.


Ok Barry that fixed Smile great !!!
So it worked fine as long as I didn't press the Cancel Button on the "Package database entry creator" if you do press the Cancel button, it totally Cancels making the pet package, where as before it used to continue and leave out the extra database screen.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 13:43    Post subject:  
Openoffice 2.2 from the Quirky repo works OK in Quirky 010

Neither the latest 3.2 series from Coolpup nor any OO 3.2 installed on the home drive works. Result is a complete system freeze.

Even copying the whole OO folder into Quirky's /opt folder has no effect.

OO 3.2 worked fine in Quirky 008.

I'm getting no clue by starting ./soffice from a console - no messages at all.

I tried to install ICEWM to try to eliminate the possibility that this a JWM problem, but still no joy. ICEWM looks good in Quirky b.t.w. I think this pet was put together by ttuuxxx a while back.

So where to look now? xorg? gtk2? missing library in Woof?. Stumped. Carry on looking anyway!
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 17:29    Post subject:  
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I tried to install ICEWM to try to eliminate the possibility that this a JWM problem, but still no joy. ICEWM looks good in Quirky b.t.w. I think this pet was put together by ttuuxxx a while back.


That's strange tronkel. Ah... I used an Icewm-1.3.5.. so maybe it's not so strange, see earlier screeny. Yes I know icons are missing but I compiled this for dpup awhile back. Take a look at dpup.org and look in my directories there to find it... latest is suffixed "me2".
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 18:22    Post subject: Quirky video  
I am posting this from after booting Quirky010 from a CD on my linux box and just installed Firefox 3.6.

Everyhing is working on this machine but when I tried Quirky on my old HP Omnibook 4150 things just went blank and stopped just after the XORG wizard. I tried booting to a command prompt and that also hung requiring a reset.

That computer works well with Puppy 4.3.1 and Lighthouse Pup. XORG.conf shows a Neomagic video card in the HP.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar 2010, 18:33    Post subject:  
BarryK wrote:
smokey01,
Ok, I fixed it so essid can now have spaces.

01micko,
Can you try these new scripts. For the problem where you got it to work by manually typing in 'dhcpcd wlan0' afterward. When SNS fails, look at the log, it has extra logging information.

There is a timeout in the sns script where it waits for the Access Point to become available -- it will be useful to see what you are getting for that parameter -- which should be in the log.

One thing that you can try is increase the value in line 489, from 20 to say 30 seconds.


Hi Barry..SNS still can't find the winning post!

Same as before, tried increasing the value at line 489 too.

here's the log.. looks to me like the loop is breaking down somewhere.. I don't know.. will try a few things.
Code:
STEP1a: ifconfig wlan0 up
STEP1b: iwlist wlan0 scan
          Cell 01 - Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
                    ESSID:""
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Ad-Hoc
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:45/100  Signal level:-67 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
          Cell 02 - Address: 00:1D:0F:F8:38:26
                    ESSID:"TP-SOME-ESSID"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:37/100  Signal level:-72 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
          Cell 03 - Address: 00:1D:73:55:95:52
                    ESSID:"MyPort Hotspot Southport"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:23/100  Signal level:-81 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
          Cell 04 - Address: 00:21:91:E1:3B:F2
                    ESSID:"WP"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:26/100  Signal level:-79 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
          Cell 05 - Address: 00:24:B2:7B:70:CE
                    ESSID:"OPTUSA7B70CC"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)
                    Quality:35/100  Signal level:-73 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
STEP1c: ifconfig wlan0 down
STEP2: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
STEP3: iwconfig wlan0 channel 6
STEP4: iwconfig wlan0 essid "TP-SOME-ESSID"
STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key restricted 1234567890
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Access Point:
Result of 'iwconfig wlan0':
wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any 
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:5.26 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:10 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3 
          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:1234-5678-90   Security mode:restricted
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0


STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key open 1234567890
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up


As I understand, we've looped through and found we need "open", that works, wlan0 is up, then I guess iwconfig should run again but it's not. I don't think the timeout should make a difference because when I run dhcpcd manually it is connected in roughly 8.5 seconds.

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