Quirky 010 feedback

[Michalis]

Better bring gtkhash back it's more usable than the ghasher because of it's copy paste ability. Also in ghasher it's confusing the term "Digest" that is being used in order to calculate the hashes.

Once I got an obvious kernel panic while trying to load the initrd file of the quirky, the pc frozed but no report of kernel panic, and the reason for it.

[rjbrewer]

Quirky did everything normally until it got the point where it displays the desktop. All I got was a blank black screen and it hung. I wonder if the fault is the Intel graphics?

With Puppy 4.3.1 I could get into a desktop but I could not change the screen resolution until I changed the standard Intel driver to the intel810 driver. With Quirky I cannot get to a desktop so how can I change the driver??? Help!

I have the same black screen problem. Inspiron 700m, 1.6GHz, 855gm
intel graphics.
The first 2 Quirkies with Xvesa loaded okay. Version 003 switched
to a stripped Xorg and haven't been able to reach desktop since.

As Barry said, Quirky is an experiment not designed to be usefull
to everyone.

With other Puppies I use Xvesa with this Intel graphic card. Video
players and files don't play correctly with xorg.....and I prefer the
1024 x 768 screen res that Xvesa allows on this 12" wide-screen
laptop.

The latest version of GeexBox switched to Xorg and that has the
same black screen hang up.

Surprisingly; Mipup2 does xorg gxine video right; but won't with
xvesa.

[stu90]

As with the previous versions of frugal Quirky touchpad double tap on my dell inspiron 1501 laptop is not working, having to left click the mouse button every times is a real deal breaker.

The new SNS network tool however is a real plus and has made setting up a wireless network connection very easy.

[Béèm]

vmliuz and initrd in sda1 in a directory.
Menu.lst boots from it.

In sdb1, a flash drive, contains a save file.
quirky-010.sfs is equally on on the flash drive (sdb1)

I seem to be in PUPMODE13, which says boot from a flash drive, which is in fact not the case.
How comes? Is it correct?

This is in PUPSTATE

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PUPMODE=13
PDEV1=''
DEV1FS=''
PUPSFS='sdb1,ext3,/quirky-010.sfs'
PUPSAVE='sdb1,ext3,/quirkysave-R40_quirky010-test-USB.2fs'
PMEDIA=''
#v3.97: kernel with libata pata has both sata and pata drives in ATADRIVES...
ATADRIVES='sda '
#these directories are unionfs layers in /initrd...
SAVE_LAYER='/pup_ro1'
PUP_LAYER='/pup_ro2'
#The partition that has the quirkysave file is mounted here...
PUP_HOME='/mnt/dev_save'
#(in /initrd) ...note, /mnt/home is a link to it.
#this file has extra kernel drivers and firmware...
ZDRV=''
#complete set of modules in the initrd (moved to main f.s.)...
ZDRVINIT='no'
PSWAPFILE=''
PSAVEMARK=''
FASTPARTS='sda1|ntfs sda2|vfat '

This is in menu.lst

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title Puppy Quirky 010
	kernel (hd0,0)/quirky10/vmlinuz
	initrd (hd0,0)/quirky10/initrd.gz
	boot

[BarryK]

01micko,
Ooooh, I was puzzled that you weren't getting the timeout test after the second STEP5a in SNS.

I think I found out why, FLAGERR variable needs to be reset, see inserted line 391:

Would you mind retrying it again, and if it still fails, could you post that log file again thanks.

[01micko]

Eureka!

We found the winning post! Got to the pink xmessage which it did not do before and found a connection. Beauty!

Thanks Barry and I'll post the log anyway

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STEP1a: ifconfig wlan0 up
STEP1b: iwlist wlan0 scan
          Cell 01 - Address: 00:1D:0F:F8:38:26
                    ESSID:"TP-LINK"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:34/100  Signal level:-74 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
          Cell 02 - Address: 00:1D:73:55:95:52
                    ESSID:"MyPort Hotspot Southport"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:39/100  Signal level:-71 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
          Cell 03 - Address: 00:21:91:E1:3B:F2
                    ESSID:"WP"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:20/100  Signal level:-83 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
          Cell 04 - Address: 00:24:B2:7B:70:CE
                    ESSID:"OPTUSA7B70CC"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)
                    Quality:31/100  Signal level:-76 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
STEP1c: ifconfig wlan0 down
STEP2: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
STEP3: iwconfig wlan0 channel 6
STEP4: iwconfig wlan0 essid "TP-LINK"
STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key restricted 1234567890
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Result of 'iwconfig wlan0':
wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:5.26 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:10 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3  
          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:1234-5678-90  Security mode:restricted
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0


STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key open 1234567890
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up
STEP6a: dhcpcd  wlan0
dhcpcd: version 5.1.5 starting
dhcpcd: wlan0: broadcasting for a lease
dhcpcd: wlan0: offered 192.168.1.105 from 192.168.1.1
dhcpcd: wlan0: acknowledged 192.168.1.105 from 192.168.1.1
dhcpcd: wlan0: checking for 192.168.1.105
dhcpcd: wlan0: leased 192.168.1.105 for 86400 seconds
dhcpcd: forking to background

Cheers

[Greatnessguru]

Barry,

If you wish, I can test SNS if you will post more updates
of it to this topic that address my concerns about
Puppy/Quirky users (me) having to enter gahbledygook
to get _wired_ mobile phone modem probing to work
when "usbserial" first needs to be loaded for them.

One idea, of course:
- present a menu of all USB devices with "Cls=ff(vend.)"
- present a menu of modules to load,
including "usbserial" (perhaps as default)
- modprobe the chosen module to the chosen device
- attempt modem probing
- when modem probing still fails, or there are
multiple "Cls=ff(vend.)"s, repeat above

Suggested Internet search:
modem "Cls=ff(vend.)" usbserial

Thank you,
Eddie Maddox

[BarryK]

Barry,

If you wish, I can test SNS if you will post more updates
of it to this topic that address my concerns about
Puppy/Quirky users (me) having to enter gahbledygook
to get _wired_ mobile phone modem probing to work
when "usbserial" first needs to be loaded for them.

One idea, of course:
- present a menu of all USB devices with "Cls=ff(vend.)"
- present a menu of modules to load,
including "usbserial" (perhaps as default)
- modprobe the chosen module to the chosen device
- attempt modem probing
- when modem probing still fails, or there are
multiple "Cls=ff(vend.)"s, repeat above

Suggested Internet search:
modem "Cls=ff(vend.)" usbserial

Thank you,
Eddie Maddox

SNS is for connecting to a DHCP server via a local area network or router -- by wired or wireless interface. Modems are a different thing -- if you are concerned about dialup 3G modems, or analog modems, then it is PupDial you should be looking at, and rerwin is your man for bug reports.

[BarryK]

Eureka!

We found the winning post! Got to the pink xmessage which it did not do before and found a connection. Beauty!

Yippeee! It's good to have a win every now and again.

[`f00]

___update-100322/24___

previous p5 post

Save should be working now (my bad edit of /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown, the save2flash-mod save/nosave section was missing the closing semicolons time is never wasted, but operator may err at times). All going well (the save2flash-mod may have to be adjusted? it works on reboot but save2flash does not work 'on-demand' while in-session..) as far as reboots/saves go now - some anomalies (the difference in using unionfs as opposed to aufs, perhaps) in a few minor details of new material on the savefile and how it's seen. Wasn't sure if it was tied into increasing the savefile size and doing a 'usual' puppy pfix=fsck acpi=force on the reboot prompt. Finally powered off (why I was using acpi=force, to get a full powerdown on my setup).

Startup from cold and .. back to the initial q010 kybd/locale/tz setup (seems like it can't find the quirkysave or I futzed up the liveCD+usb 'install', it was doing just great on reboots .. almost perfect with the possible exception of those minor anomalies). Eventually I'll get it, but I lose patience on initial screens when they reappear and ...

@rjbrewer
yep, Xorg can be a pitb if it doesn't 'get it proper' (one reason I lose patience, altho I get better with mp practice )
ps - dancing in the streets for q011 .. or lucky 13, as seems to be the case (;

[divisionmd]

Hello all,

I should have posted this question directly here - but i psoted at wrong section but anyways:

- I am testing Quircky 10.

- Just downloaded it and need to compile ATI drivers. And for that to work i need to compile drivers against the kernel.

downloaded this: linux-2.6.33.1-source-patched_loglevel_vortex86mx_rtl8192su_usbstorage_unionfs.tar.tar

But where do i unpack it?

- i tested to unpack it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.1/ and then also symlinking to /usr/src/linux but that did not help.

Ati log says:

[Message] Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[Message] Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[Error] Kernel Module : Kernel module build environment not found - please consult readme.


Many thanks for help,

Best regards,
Johan

[BarryK]

There is not much point in compiling anything for the 2.6.33.1 kernel, as I'll be moving on from it very soon. Probably Quirky 010 is the only build that will use it.

It seems like you might be missing /lib/modules/2.6.33.1/build symlink to /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.1

[divisionmd]

Hello Barry,

- Thanks for input.

- I just wanted to test out performance with flashplayer + ATI + GPU acceleration with that linux kernel.

Heard from ATI that newer Linux kernels will include fixes for ATI radeon cards that would ultimately give GPU support for flash movies.

HD 1080 movies from simple EEE PC hardware would/should run smoothly if GPU acceleration works of course.

Really hope your next version will include those new features its truly awesome tested it on Windows machines and it works..

And also NVIDIA Ion cards + GPU + flashplayer should also work on newer linux kernels... .

- Tested to symlink that: /lib/modules/2.6.33.1/build symlink to /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.1

and got this:

# cat /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log
[Message] Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[Message] Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[Message] Kernel Module : Found kernel module build environment, generating kernel module now.
AMD kernel module generator version 2.1
kernel includes at /lib/modules/2.6.33.1/build/include not found or incomplete
file: /lib/modules/2.6.33.1/build/include/linux/version.h
[Error] Kernel Module : Failed to compile kernel module - please consult readme.


- If its not to far away in the future i will hold out and wait for your next release then.


Thanks for help,

Best regards,
Johan

[Greatnessguru]

BarryK:
SNS is for connecting to a DHCP server via a local area network or router -- by wired or wireless interface. Modems are a different thing -- if you are concerned about dialup 3G modems, or analog modems, then it is PupDial you should be looking at, and rerwin is your man for bug reports.

My mistake. I confused SNS with Internet Connection Wizard that comes up the first time one clicks "connect".

I did run a test, Quirky010, pfix=ram:

cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | grep -A5 "D:" | grep -A5 "Cls=ff(vend.)"
modprobe -v usbserial vendor=0x22b8 product=0x2b24
[Motorola VE465 mobile phone, but works for many others, too]
cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | grep -A5 "D:" | grep -A5 "Cls=ff(vend.)"

Clicked: "connect"
Internet Connection Wizard: "no modem found".

Clicked: "... dialup analog or wireless modem ...", the probing worked!!

Scanning your serial ports for a modem.

ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 4800 baud
ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 4800 baud, next try: 9600 baud
ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 19200 baud
ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 19200 baud, next try: 115200 baud
ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up.
ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 4800 baud
ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 4800 baud, next try: 9600 baud
ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 19200 baud
ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 19200 baud, next try: 115200 baud
ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up.
Port Scan<*1>: S2 S3
ttyS4<Info>: No such device or address
Port Scan<*1>: S4 ACM0 ACM1
ttyUSB0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- OK
ttyUSB0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 Z -- OK
ttyUSB0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 -- OK
ttyUSB0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 -- OK
ttyUSB0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 -- OK
ttyUSB0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK
ttyUSB0<*1>: Modem Identifier: ATI -- Manufacturer: I: Motorola CE, Copyright 2000
ttyUSB0<*1>: Speed 9600: AT -- OK
ttyUSB0<*1>: Max speed is 9600; that should be safe.
ttyUSB0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK

Found a modem on /dev/ttyUSB0.
Modem configuration written to /etc/wvdial.conf.

*** WARNING! Line "115200"
in /etc/ppp/options may conflict with wvdial!

ttyUSB0<Info>: Speed 9600; init "ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0"
Welcome to PupDial, written by Barry Kauler for Puppy Linux.

There is a configuration file, /etc/wvdial.conf, that is read by
PupDial, and changes made to any of the above boxes will be saved
to wvdial.conf when you click the 'Exit' or 'Connect' buttons.
Note, you can also manually edit wvdial.conf with a text editor.

Some computers have two modems, perhaps one on the motherboard,
and Puppy may have detected the wrong one. In that case, click the
'probe' button. If it is still wrong, manually edit wvdial.conf.

This means the Internet Connection Wizard probing misses some modems that PupDial probing finds.

Thank you,
Eddie Maddox

[BarryK]

Eddie,
Internet Connection Wizard is just a frontend. In your case it passed you on to PupDial, the analog and 3G modem dialup application.
Any questions about that, contact rerwin -- there is a modems section in this forum.

[Greatnessguru]

BarryK:
Internet Connection Wizard is just a frontend.

If true, how does that explain the Internet Connection Wizard modem probing _not_ finding all the modems that PupDial modem probing finds?

If you can tell me where to find the log of the Internet Connection Wizard modem probing, I'll take a look and post it here.

Thank you,
Eddie Maddox

[tempestuous]

Heard from ATI that newer Linux kernels will include fixes for ATI radeon cards that would ultimately give GPU support for flash movies.

HD 1080 movies from simple EEE PC hardware would/should run smoothly if GPU acceleration works of course.

It's not quite that easy. Once ATi finalises their (MPEG4) hardware acceleration method, they must make this code available to the opensource community so that video player applications can support it.

Hardware acceleration is available right now in the nVIDIA proprietary Xorg driver. It's called VDPAU. MPlayer supports VDPAU, but must be explicitly configured to do so.

[OverDrive]

Using Quirky 10 and the new SNS script from this forum, Using the b43 driver and my 128bit hex WEP key I can't make it to the router with Network Wizard or SNS. Here is the log from SNS:

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STEP1a: ifconfig wlan0 up
STEP1b: iwlist wlan0 scan
          Cell 01 - Address: 00:0C:41:6E:2C:DF
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=56/70  Signal level=-54 dBm  
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"overdrive"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000000bc13c1188
                    Extra: Last beacon: 632ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 00096F7665726472697665
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B9624B0486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32048C129860
                    IE: Unknown: DD06001018020004
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101000003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
STEP1c: ifconfig wlan0 down
STEP2: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
STEP3: iwconfig wlan0 channel 6
STEP4: iwconfig wlan0 essid "overdrive"
STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key restricted 1234567890
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Result of 'iwconfig wlan0':
wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"overdrive"  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Tx-Power=20 dBm   
          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off
          

STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key open 1234567890
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Result of 'iwconfig wlan0':
wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"overdrive"  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Tx-Power=20 dBm   
          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off

I can reboot with 4.12/4.31 and get right in. Any ideas?

OverDrive

[Béèm]

Whew, 01micko you had me worried for a minute. As it's only a JWM issue, it should be fixable.

One thing that I don't think anyone has clarified, do you get this black-background problem for both 16-bit and 24-bit color settings (chosen when you run the Xorg Wizard)?

This problem has been in Quirky since 001!! (ttuuxxx and others report several times about it!)

And yes, it only occurs with JWM, and in 24bits - in 16bits it is ok.
(I think ttuuxxx has more info about it)

I have sent an email to Joe Wing, the JWM developer, this morning. I'll send another one telling him that the problem only occurs for 24-bit.

Barry, can I make a side note. I just discovered this.
I use a wine program which in 24-bit displays correctly the icons in there.
I changed to 16-bit to get rid of the black background in quirky.
When I run that wine program now, unbelievable, the icons in the program have a black background. Not transparent anymore.
What could JWM has to do with this in a wine environment?

[01micko]

Overdrive

Yes that's weird... the key seems lost, sns from bottom of page 7?

Cheers