Puppy Magic - the Online Office Suite
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Puppy Magic - the Online Office Suite
[Cue Mission Impossible Music]
OK Developer Pups how are you going
to get a whole Puppy Office Suite into Puppy - you have 1 meg
There is a way:
On line resources are using Ajax for online office suites
BUT Ajax is just Javascript - linked to a program on the Server side
So connected Puppys already have office suites available . . .
http://tmxxine.com/wiki/OnlineResources
That may be part of the solution
I have a feeling that most of the program is being run on the client machine . . . That is some of these programs might run mostly from the javascript itself . . .
We have largely ignored javascript - but it is far more stable than it used to be and I know I have seen a spreadsheet written in javascript - what else is available?
for eg.
Powerpoint type presentation in javascript
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
ozones - art of javascript
http://ozones.com/
Image Magnifier
http://valid.tjp.hu/zoom/index_en.html
Doom prototype in javascript
http://www.abrahamjoffe.com.au/ben/canvascape/
woof woof
Maybe XUL has moved on a bit too?
OK Developer Pups how are you going
to get a whole Puppy Office Suite into Puppy - you have 1 meg
There is a way:
On line resources are using Ajax for online office suites
BUT Ajax is just Javascript - linked to a program on the Server side
So connected Puppys already have office suites available . . .
http://tmxxine.com/wiki/OnlineResources
That may be part of the solution
I have a feeling that most of the program is being run on the client machine . . . That is some of these programs might run mostly from the javascript itself . . .
We have largely ignored javascript - but it is far more stable than it used to be and I know I have seen a spreadsheet written in javascript - what else is available?
for eg.
Powerpoint type presentation in javascript
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
ozones - art of javascript
http://ozones.com/
Image Magnifier
http://valid.tjp.hu/zoom/index_en.html
Doom prototype in javascript
http://www.abrahamjoffe.com.au/ben/canvascape/
woof woof
Maybe XUL has moved on a bit too?
Last edited by Lobster on Fri 03 Mar 2006, 09:17, edited 3 times in total.
There are some simpler "solutions" to this that I can see:
(a) Buy a larger USB flash drive -- at around US$50/GB, a 1GB or 2GB flash drive is now somewhat affordable, at least for most people living in the affluent West. Then you no longer have the "must fit in 1MB" problem -- you can download and install OOo or whatever other office suite you prefer, and run it. I confess, I'm cheap... I bought my 512MB drive for US$15 after rebates... it's enough for what I do remotely/away from my primary machine, and the price was right
(b) Use a multisession CD-R or DVD-R-based Puppy -- lots of space there for an office suite! With DVD writers now under US$40, this too is an economical solution, if your local machine is a conventional desktop PC of some sort.
(c) Remote computing: when the local client PC really is low end or low cost or both, so adding local storage of any kind is truly not practical, but you do have decent Internet connectivity -- use a TightVNC or similar client to connect back to a remote more beefy machine, that has the software you need on it. I'd much rather trust my data to my own server (or home workstation with current amounts of hard drive space and RAM) than to an unknown web app provider, personally.
(d) Online service providers... use something like http://www.workspot.com , if you have no remote more-beefy machine to connect to, and you trust that provider with your data.
Jonathan
(a) Buy a larger USB flash drive -- at around US$50/GB, a 1GB or 2GB flash drive is now somewhat affordable, at least for most people living in the affluent West. Then you no longer have the "must fit in 1MB" problem -- you can download and install OOo or whatever other office suite you prefer, and run it. I confess, I'm cheap... I bought my 512MB drive for US$15 after rebates... it's enough for what I do remotely/away from my primary machine, and the price was right
(b) Use a multisession CD-R or DVD-R-based Puppy -- lots of space there for an office suite! With DVD writers now under US$40, this too is an economical solution, if your local machine is a conventional desktop PC of some sort.
(c) Remote computing: when the local client PC really is low end or low cost or both, so adding local storage of any kind is truly not practical, but you do have decent Internet connectivity -- use a TightVNC or similar client to connect back to a remote more beefy machine, that has the software you need on it. I'd much rather trust my data to my own server (or home workstation with current amounts of hard drive space and RAM) than to an unknown web app provider, personally.
(d) Online service providers... use something like http://www.workspot.com , if you have no remote more-beefy machine to connect to, and you trust that provider with your data.
Jonathan
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Option Z: Open up a commandline hex-editor and write a .rtf or whater file with the numbers 0 through F! I actually tried making a .bmp file like that once (though not from the commandline). Except I was also trying to figure out the format with no references. I got most of it sorted out, but never got around to looking it up and seeing what I was doing wrong.
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I had trouble getting ThinkFree to work in Firefox, but Writely (www.writely.com) worked fine. Java is necessary with both.
Java Project management software
Guys Java is a great choice
See the project management software below.
http://ganttproject.sourceforge.net/
Also see
www.thinkfree.com for a MS-offi33e type package.
So it seems it can already be done.
Cheers,
From Wayne
See the project management software below.
http://ganttproject.sourceforge.net/
Also see
www.thinkfree.com for a MS-offi33e type package.
So it seems it can already be done.
Cheers,
From Wayne
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IF you have an interest in online office-type programs, be aware that Google is in this game now. Their GOffice suite is in beta. Only some of the facilities are available, but what there is gives you an insight into the possibilities. It works with Puppy and Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Firefox.
Where Google goes, Microsoft is sure to follow - for the time being at least.
Look at http://www.goffice.com
Where Google goes, Microsoft is sure to follow - for the time being at least.
Look at http://www.goffice.com
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goffice is google?
Thanks for that - have the link here already - maybe someone can update the Puppy wiki please . . .
http://tmxxine.com/wiki/OnlineResources
I was unaware that goffice was google?
MS as far as I know already tried an online version of Office (but broadband was not widely used at the time)
Just remember the suits are jumping up and down and stumbling over themselves to buy web 2 services which they can then lease to us . . .(such benevolent smiling beings don't you find*)
However it is likely that local govts and libraries will eventually host basic facilities. Will be interesting . . .
*Not
http://tmxxine.com/wiki/OnlineResources
I was unaware that goffice was google?
MS as far as I know already tried an online version of Office (but broadband was not widely used at the time)
Just remember the suits are jumping up and down and stumbling over themselves to buy web 2 services which they can then lease to us . . .(such benevolent smiling beings don't you find*)
However it is likely that local govts and libraries will eventually host basic facilities. Will be interesting . . .
*Not
Re: goffice is google?
It isn't. Their About Us page says "gOFFICE is not affiliated with Google, Inc. ...".Lobster wrote:I was unaware that goffice was google?
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Folks,
My apologies for starting the hare about Google and Goffice. I am sure that I read somewhere that Google were starting up an online office project. It was a short (if incorrect) leap from there to the name Goffice.
Nonetheless, these online office projects are interesting in that they may re-shape the need for compute power at home, at least in places with the bandwidth available.
A contrite BlackAdder
My apologies for starting the hare about Google and Goffice. I am sure that I read somewhere that Google were starting up an online office project. It was a short (if incorrect) leap from there to the name Goffice.
Nonetheless, these online office projects are interesting in that they may re-shape the need for compute power at home, at least in places with the bandwidth available.
A contrite BlackAdder
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No worries.
I make mistakes all the time - some kind person is soon righting me . . .
or it that writing me . . . or then again . . .
MS have an online Office in Beta (any URL to that?) Google are working towards a portal / OS / whatever - I don't think even they know for sure - yet . . .
This to me is the future. Basic generic programs (aka Puppy or an embedded Linux) are in the phone (eh sorry computer). For new services you connect to an ISP (AOL type services) or if you believe AOL=LOA (a Voodoo/Santeira possesion of your computer)* then you don't . . .
Public service servers from the BBC and Libraries and so on we need them . . . then we can offer translation, encryption, high end maths etc - connected out to a grid.
It is coming. Be prepared.
* My computer is possesed by the spirit of a legendary Tibetan Buddhist Yogi - Guru Precious Jewel - but that is another story . . .
Here is how I turned my computer into a shrine posessed . . .
for thos you thinking of ultimate modding . . .
http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/shrine/
. . . and now back to the records . . .
I make mistakes all the time - some kind person is soon righting me . . .
or it that writing me . . . or then again . . .
MS have an online Office in Beta (any URL to that?) Google are working towards a portal / OS / whatever - I don't think even they know for sure - yet . . .
This to me is the future. Basic generic programs (aka Puppy or an embedded Linux) are in the phone (eh sorry computer). For new services you connect to an ISP (AOL type services) or if you believe AOL=LOA (a Voodoo/Santeira possesion of your computer)* then you don't . . .
Public service servers from the BBC and Libraries and so on we need them . . . then we can offer translation, encryption, high end maths etc - connected out to a grid.
It is coming. Be prepared.
* My computer is possesed by the spirit of a legendary Tibetan Buddhist Yogi - Guru Precious Jewel - but that is another story . . .
Here is how I turned my computer into a shrine posessed . . .
for thos you thinking of ultimate modding . . .
http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/shrine/
. . . and now back to the records . . .