Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[BarryK]

I posted about this on my blog, reproduced here:

Available here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/quirky-013/

The main purpose of this build is to test the rollback to Xorg 7.3.

I put in a small utility, 'report-video', though I found afterward that it doesn't work quite right. It's purpose is to help with reporting your setup if your video doesn't work quite right.

I would like to know what works, what doesn't. So far I have tested on three computers, my laptop that uses the 'intel' or 'i810' driver, a desktop PC with an Nvidia card that uses the 'nv' driver, and another that uses the 'openchrome' driver. All three work.

'report-video' doesn't report the screen resolution and color depth, so could you add that info when reporting please. There was some feedback in Quirky 010 about different results depending on whether 16-bit or 24-bit color depth is chosen -- I would very much like to know if those problems occur with this build.

The build uses the 2.6.30.5 kernel from Puppy 431.

[Lobster]

Using: - used Menu /System / Hardware Info and output to browser

2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 435

Somehow I had confidence that the graphics would work
(probably should have tested) and it did - at max res for my screen
Ran Firewall and connected to the Internet OK

The programs I tried including PupTV worked if a bit small
Changing desktop settings no problems

I could not record (from mic) with mhwavedit or precord despite changing settings
I might just give up on audio - could not get it working on my previous hardware - last time it worked that I remember was the 2.xx series
Be interested if others can record

Why has Quirky shot up in size for this release?

[gjuhasz]

I run Quirky under VMware. I propose to use virtual environment for testing to help reproduce bugs/special behavior in a standard h/w.

Problems found:

1. Quirky 013 still shows black icon background at 24 bits (vesa driver). It's OK at 16 bits.

2. When I tried to reconfigure to 16 bits using Xorgwizard, the screen became too small to display the selection buttons. Note that this problem may target virtual machines only.

See attachments.

[Lobster]

I am booting from CD/DVD

I inadvertently booted up with the 008 version save file of Puppy
It tried to update and dumped me out to the command line
- this may be because I was using an Nvidia graphics driver at the time
Just running xorgwizard would probably have fixed it

Two 4.3.1 sfs were in my home partition (Xara and Open Office)
added and working without incident

[01micko]

Hi Barry

All 5 machines in my home I tested with Q-013 (either pfix=ram or off usb key no save file)
All booted and all connected with sns. All had black backgrounds with icons at 24 bit, ok at 16 bit

1. Main box, athlon 2100+ Radeon 9200Pro, fine with "radeon" driver

2. EEEpc 701SD, fine with "intel" driver

3. Old box, P3 coppermine 600, vanta video card, fine with "nv" driver

4. Son's Thinkpad R61e, GM965 Intel integrated graphics, epic fail after probing then testing, waited and waited.. never recovered from black screen, it was as if there were no keyboard either. Could do nothing, I think the test failed to run because sound was loaded. I hit the "off" button to do a hard reboot and got the acpid "woof".. normally if X fails to start for me it drops back to console. So X must have started?? But failed, got sound? Of course I couldn't grab anything, sorry.

5. Wife's Compaq Evo (thin desktop) Intel 82845G, almost the same result as Son's, except I skipped the test.

Vesa was fine on both. (Um, I was lucky to grab time on Son's and Wife's!)

HTH

Cheers

[Lobster]

I include the results of running top from the console
It may be of some use
I was hoping that Seamonkey (same is happening in Firefox
on Fatdog64) would run BBC Iplayer (that is Flash based I believe)
without crashing - no can do
Get 15 minutes of video and then tells me not enough broadband width (which is nonsense unless Linux is being capped by my ISP)
Works OK on Wii which uses wifi and Windows on another ethernet connection - so only Linux

I am not really smart enough to trace what and why this is happening

One last thing - the ATI card seemed to be retaining some residual graphic memory - which now seems gone (it would flash a unknown screen page briefly)
- maybe Quirky flushed it in some Quirky way . . .

[tronkel]

No success at all with xorgwizard on startup.
Video card is ATI Radeon 3450. Black screen only.
Vesa does work though.

I then installed MU's ati fglrx proprietary drive for kernel 2.6.3.5
This worked OK.

Still got black background on menu item icons.

Edit: Both Firefox and Openoffice 3.2 now start OK. This was not this case with Quirky 10

[rjbrewer]

Aaaahh, lucky 13 .

No black screen freeze this time on my 12" 700m Dell.
855gm Intel video.

Xorg works fine at the 1280 x 800 native res.
Xvesa works fine at the 1024 x 768 I prefer.
Both at 16 or 24 colors.

SNS works good also.

[Ray MK]

Hi Barry

Manual Frugal install on my 10yr old IBM A21m laptop.
PIII (coppermine). 192mb ram, ext3 hdd, 400mb swap partition. Running with no save_file.
Using acpi=force on the kernel line in menu.lst (won't load otherwise)

(with no acpi=force - gives message - pup sfs not found,
dropping out to initial ramdisk, console, bin/sh; cant access tty;
job control turned off, #)
But that happens to all 431 puppies with k2.6.30.5 on this machine - so no change there.

Got a woof woof at start
All seemed ok at and after initial setup.
However keyboard Ctrl+Q, Ctrl+W etc not working in hardinfo or SeaMonkey
So - checked and changed KB setting to UK - and all is well.

So it seems that initial KB selection (ie UK) is not being remembered during first setup.
Have not seen this before on any 431 puppy. Will double check and report.

However hardinfo does not show - kernel modules OR usb devices.
All previously tried 431 puppy's do show those details on this machine.
However hardinfo seems much, much faster than before.

SNS works and Xorg seems fine.

Thats all for now - got to work - so more later.

Thanks for this and the proposed triple whammy.

Very best regards - Ray

[boscobearbank]

HP s3707c: Athlon 5400+, 4GB RAM, nvidia 9100 on-board graphics,
Soyo DLYM-2086 monitor (1680x1050 native)

Video:
Requested driver/resolution/depth: probe/1680x1050 24-bit.
Actual driver/resolution/depth: vesa/1600x1200 24-bit
Evaluation: good enough. - needs nvidia driver or nouveau driver from kernel 2.6.33 or newer to display properly.

Display:
Black background on startup.

Networking:
SNS just worked

[Béèm]

First time I get a black screen. Laptop freezes.
No cursor, no way to get to the X prompt.
So I don't know what driver is loaded.
Graphics ATI Radeon 7500.

Selecting test in Xorgwizard freezes the laptop also.

[pemasu]

[jrb]

Here's my video report,
Machine: hp5100S-p4

Initially Xorg crashed both on testing and on trying direct, forcing me to manually restart, even ctrl+alt+del didn't work. Tried on 1280x1024 and 1024x768.

Xvesa worked and allowed me to rename /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so and /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so and then symlink /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate/i810_drv.so to both of the above.

This worked and allowed me to generate this video-report.

[Billtoo]

On booting the cd selecting "probe" just goes to a black screen, on next boot I selected vesa and it works.
The graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 8600 GT.

I later downloaded NVIDIA-185.18.36-k2.6.30.5-1.pet from the forum and
it installed and works good.

[Béèm]