Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Sun 21 Dec 2014, 22:11
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » House Training » Bugs ( Submit bugs )
Quirky 013 feedback
Moderators: Flash, Ian, JohnMurga
Post_new_topic   Reply_to_topic View_previous_topic :: View_next_topic
Page 3 of 5 Posts_count   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Next
Author Message
BarryK
Puppy Master


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 7100
Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar 2010, 22:06    Post_subject:  

Actually, for those who report black screen with the 'intel' driver, or hang or whatever, you can manually set the 'i810' driver as default.

If you can get to the desktop with the 'vesa' driver, you will find the 'i810' driver here:

/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate

...copy 'i810_drv.so' to /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, and delete 'intel_drv.so'.

There is also another file that you will find in here:

/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate/i810

...you need to copy that out and replace the current one at /usr/X11R7/lib.

After that, if you exit to the prompt then run 'xorgwizard', it will use the 'i810' driver.

...if you are game to try that, let me know if it works!

_________________
http://bkhome.org/news/
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message Visit_website 
BarryK
Puppy Master


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 7100
Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Tue 30 Mar 2010, 22:19    Post_subject:  

Too clarify a bit more, the Vesa driver is a "proper" Xorg driver, and uses xorg.conf. The Kdriver Xvesa driver was written independently of Xorg and does not use xorg.conf. However, both were included in the Xorg package, then Xvesa was dropped from Xorg 7.5. Xvesa was still in Xorg 7.4 I think but was somewhat broken. Nobody maintained it anymore, so it was dropped.

There is also other stuff that is different, for example, Xvesa does not use any of the Xorg keyboard setup files. Also, Xvesa has a fixed screen refresh rate, whereas with Vesa it can be changed.

_________________
http://bkhome.org/news/
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message Visit_website 
Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 11782
Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 03:34    Post_subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Too clarify a bit more, the Vesa driver is a "proper" Xorg driver, and uses xorg.conf. The Kdriver Xvesa driver was written independently of Xorg and does not use xorg.conf. However, both were included in the Xorg package, then Xvesa was dropped from Xorg 7.5. Xvesa was still in Xorg 7.4 I think but was somewhat broken. Nobody maintained it anymore, so it was dropped.

There is also other stuff that is different, for example, Xvesa does not use any of the Xorg keyboard setup files. Also, Xvesa has a fixed screen refresh rate, whereas with Vesa it can be changed.
Thank you for specifying.
I knew it had been written before, probably you did it.
Will bookmark now for future reference. Cool

_________________
Time savers:
Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
Consult Wikka
Use peppyy's puppysearch
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 11782
Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 03:40    Post_subject: pixman black background in icons  

Black background in icons issue.

With coolpup's pixman (thank you for this) the issue is solved in Quirky 13, but not in Lucid 002 (where I had the issue also)

_________________
Time savers:
Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
Consult Wikka
Use peppyy's puppysearch
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 11782
Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 05:28    Post_subject:  

tronkel wrote:
No success at all with xorgwizard on startup.
Video card is ATI Radeon 3450. Black screen only.
Vesa does work though.

I then installed MU's ati fglrx proprietary drive for kernel 2.6.3.5
This worked OK.

Still got black background on menu item icons.

Edit: Both Firefox and Openoffice 3.2 now start OK. This was not this case with Quirky 10
Thank you Tronkel for this info.
Altho my graphics device wasn't in the list (ATI Radeon 7500) I decided to try.

  1. Installed while in Xvesa
  2. reooted with pfix=nox
  3. at the X prompt run Xorgwizard and configured xorg
  4. xwin
  5. did get the desktop

A question tho: How can I see I am in Xvesa or Xorg?

_________________
Time savers:
Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
Consult Wikka
Use peppyy's puppysearch
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
tronkel


Joined: 30 Sep 2005
Posts: 1104
Location: Vienna Austria

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 07:04    Post_subject:  

Beem wrote:

Quote:
A question tho: How can I see I am in Xvesa or Xorg?


Beem if you read Barry's notes above, he writes that Vesa is actually an XORG driver in itself - as opposed to XVESA (used in Puppy for ages) which is not considered to be a part of XORG as such - even although it comes included with the XORG package.

So, to answer your question here - you are always in XORG in Quirky 013 since XVESA is now not there at all.

I know - it's a bit convoluted (to say the least!) Shocked

_________________
Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message Visit_website AIM 
Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 11782
Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 07:30    Post_subject:  

tronkel wrote:
Beem wrote:

Quote:
A question tho: How can I see I am in Xvesa or Xorg?


Beem if you read Barry's notes above, he writes that Vesa is actually an XORG driver in itself - as opposed to XVESA (used in Puppy for ages) which is not considered to be a part of XORG as such - even although it comes included with the XORG package.

So, to answer your question here - you are always in XORG in Quirky 013 since XVESA is now not there at all.

I know - it's a bit convoluted (to say the least!) Shocked
Well, the answer wasn't totally clear or me and I had still the impression Xvesa existed, be it not developed anymore as it can still be selected.

To avoid any confusion, the Xvesa choice should be removed then when configuring the graphics environment.

_________________
Time savers:
Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
Consult Wikka
Use peppyy's puppysearch
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
tom4jean


Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 16
Location: Valatie, N.Y. USA

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 07:56    Post_subject:  

No problem with xorg 16-bit or 24-bit on any of the Quirky verisions including this one. Intel 945gse GRAPHICS MEDIA ACCELERATOR 950 on my compaq cq10 netbook. Sorry I can't post output from "report-video" because of problem noted below.

New bug for me; 013 is not detecting my Broadcom Wireless LAN card. I'm posting this from 010.
Quirky's 008-010 all detected my card after making a pupsave and using the b43 driver.
I tried multiple attempts to reboot and reload the driver and even deleted the pupsave I made for 013 and loaded the one from 010 and same thing. It just does not detect my wireless card, I used both the regular dugal wizard and the new simple one.
No idea why and sorry I don't have enough knowledge to diagnose it.

_________________
AKA: tom4jesus; Running Quirky 1.0 on Compaq cq10 netbook
Search the Puppy Forums to find that elusive PET;
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyLinuxSearchEngine
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
stu90


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Posts: 1401
Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:26    Post_subject:  

Touchpad tapping now works on dell inspiron 1501 laptop

black backround fix also works same laptop.
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
darwinev0lved

Joined: 29 Jul 2008
Posts: 83

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 12:20    Post_subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Actually, for those who report black screen with the 'intel' driver, or hang or whatever, you can manually set the 'i810' driver as default.

If you can get to the desktop with the 'vesa' driver, you will find the 'i810' driver here:

/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate

...copy 'i810_drv.so' to /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, and delete 'intel_drv.so'.

There is also another file that you will find in here:

/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate/i810

...you need to copy that out and replace the current one at /usr/X11R7/lib.

After that, if you exit to the prompt then run 'xorgwizard', it will use the 'i810' driver.

...if you are game to try that, let me know if it works!


Hi Barry, just to let you know that this does work - but on Lpup, haven't tried it on Quirky yet. The driver files aren't in the folders you mention in lpup but were easy enough to find. So far, so good.
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
alec78

Joined: 18 Mar 2010
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 14:39    Post_subject: i810  

Hi BarryK,
Followed your destructions re Intel i810 driver, and it worked. Posting this via xorg i810 graphics.
Cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
ICPUG

Joined: 24 Jul 2005
Posts: 1290
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 19:33    Post_subject:  

Ok. I've test Quirky013 on both my machines (for graphics only).

On my desktop with ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X it worked fine although the desktop background was black. The colour may be a fault of my monitor.

On my Medion Laptop with i810 graphics chip set it just got black screen when trying xorg. Interestingly when you click the off button of the PC it barked! Anyway restarted and followed Barry's instructions about using VESA.

Point for Beem. If nothing else this VESA option must exist to enable us to change the xorg driver!

The bit about copying 'i810_drv.so' was fine. However, the instructions from here were a bit wrong. There is no intel_drv.so to delete - probably cos it never started in xorg before.

Then it says there is another file in here:
/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate/i810

No there isn't. All that is in there is a directory (usr). I followed the path down to:
/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate/i810/usr/X11R7/lib/

There were TWO files here (one a symbolic link) and I copied both of them as requested.

Went to the prompt and ran xwizard no problem. Restarted by typing xwin and everything worked.

It amazes me that alec78 reported the instructions worked when clearly there were some errors in the instructions! Accuracy in reports is helpful.
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
JustGreg

Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 754
Location: Connecticut USA

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 20:08    Post_subject:  

I tried Quirky 013 on my Acer Aspire Revo using the live CDROM. It booted and started without a problem. It did not detect the Nvidia Graphics device, but did properly detect the Nvidia HDA audio device. The Nvidia Graphics device needs the Nvidia driver pet.

I also connected to my wireless WPA2 network. It did connect, but I did noticed it took longer (5.5 seconds versus 2.0 seconds) for the WPA supplicant to connect.

I tried out PupRadio and Mplayer with some online radio stations. I found station CFGP in the PupRadio would not play. In trying Mplayer with some stations that I like, I found Mplayer does not have the Codecs for MMS protocol and M3U (Mpeg3 stream). Hopefully, the extra Codecs pet for Mplayer will work with Quiry.

In general, Quirky seem to work well. It needs the usual tweaks for user preferences. It does have all the basics for me.

_________________
Enjoy life, Just Greg
Live Well, Laugh Often, Love Much
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
BarryK
Puppy Master


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 7100
Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 20:52    Post_subject: Re: i810  

alec78 wrote:
Hi BarryK,
Followed your destructions re Intel i810 driver, and it worked. Posting this via xorg i810 graphics.
Cheers


That's good news, I'll modify the Xorg Wizard so i810 can be chosen immediately instead of the probing.

_________________
http://bkhome.org/news/
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message Visit_website 
James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5971
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Wed 31 Mar 2010, 22:18    Post_subject:  

Running Quirky 013 live on a box with S3 graphics-prosavage. Xorg is using the "savage" driver and working correctly.
installed the pet and took care of the black backgrounds.... Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Display_posts:   Sort by:   
Page 3 of 5 Posts_count   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Next
Post_new_topic   Reply_to_topic View_previous_topic :: View_next_topic
 Forum index » House Training » Bugs ( Submit bugs )
Jump to:  

Rules_post_cannot
Rules_reply_cannot
Rules_edit_cannot
Rules_delete_cannot
Rules_vote_cannot
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0944s ][ Queries: 13 (0.0070s) ][ GZIP on ]