Wary 020

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Wary 020

#1 Post by BarryK »

I announced it on my blog:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01530

Download:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... /wary-020/

I also posted replies to two bug reports, repeated here:

Gnumeric fix
Oops, an oversight. You need to install this PET package:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -0.6.3.pet

Error message in terminal
Yes, there is an error message when a terminal is opened. This came about when I fixed a bug in Lupu.

Edit /etc/profile, these lines:

#100208 rox-filer needs this for GTK >= 2.18, fixes focus problem... 100423 fix...
if [ `grep -E '^gtk\+-2|^libgtk2.0' /root/.packages/woof-installed-packages | head -n 1 | cut -f 3 -d '|' | cut -f 2 -d '.'` -ge 18 ];then
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true
fi

...the "\" backslash is required, also the "^".

SeaMonkey 1.1.18
Rolled back also. This is preconfigured to recognise mms and rtsp streams.

So, are we getting closer to a release version?...
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#2 Post by BarryK »

Don't forget guys, if you have ATI video, I would like to know if either of these alternate Xorg drivers work for you:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=180

Billtoo has already responded that he got the wrong screen resolution with the ATI driver that comes with Wary 020, got the correct resolution (1920X1080) when he used the 'xf86-video-ati-radeon_mach64_r128-6.12.7-w1.pet' package.

...that's the latest driver, would like to know if that doesn't work for anyone.
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Re: Wary 020

#3 Post by broomdodger »

BarryK wrote: Gnumeric fix
Oops, an oversight. You need to install this PET package:
...
Error message in terminal
Yes, there is an error message when a terminal is opened. This came about when I fixed a bug in Lupu
...
ok, that fixes those problems.
--AND--
gnumeric also works Format > Cells...
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wary020 memory meter?

#4 Post by broomdodger »

wary020 frugal
Question about the memory meter.

With a 32MB save file, there is 19MB free.
Not only is the memory meter red... but it is also flashing.

Tried right click to set min/max but no config, like the temp meter.

How to config?

It took some thought to determine what that icon is, ok, an "old" style memory chip! Somewhat like MS Windows still uses a floppy icon. But at first I thought rings on a post.
.

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wary020 seamonkey save file

#5 Post by broomdodger »

acer TravelMate 4670 notebook
Processor : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz
Memory : 1025MB (215MB used)
Resolution : 1280x800 pixels

----------------------------------------------------------------
~# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary, version 020

Chip description:
Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: 1280x800 Depth: 24

================================================================
wary020 frugal
from the quirky018 feedback page
tried to save JustGreg's file:
grub4dos_htm.zip

The save dialog would not go away, could not save.

puppy431 save ok
.
Last edited by broomdodger on Thu 22 Apr 2010, 22:20, edited 1 time in total.

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wary020 more gnumeric issues

#6 Post by broomdodger »

wary020 frugal

start gnumeric from console after installing goffice-0.6.3.pet

# gnumeric
Reading file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: scg_edit_start: assertion `IS_SHEET_CONTROL_GUI (scg)' failed

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: wbcg_edit_finish: assertion `IS_SHEET (wbcg->editing_sheet)' failed
Writing file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: wbcg_edit_finish: assertion `IS_SHEET (wbcg->editing_sheet)' failed

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: wbcg_edit_finish: assertion `IS_SHEET (wbcg->editing_sheet)' failed
#

start gnumeric from console
open an existing file
click in a cell
save
quit

================================================================
Tried the same in puppy431, no problems:

# gnumeric
Reading file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric
Writing file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric
#
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#7 Post by Jim1911 »

Frugal installation on this System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart 5280 All-in-One

So far the only problem is that the video Probe did not find the "nv" driver, nor was it available to select under Choose, however Vesa worked properly.

An additional frugal installation on an old Sony Vaio laptop with only 64MB ram installed fine and the Probe for video picked out a suitable driver. It is surprisingly fast on this machine and everything checked has worked.

This may be a winner for older hardware.

Thanks,
Jim

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#8 Post by JustGreg »

With my attempts to get the Nvidia driver to work with Quirky, I found the nv driver does support the GeForce 8400GS video. I have post in Hardware Video section that lists all the Nvidia processors that nv supports. There may be a problem with the hardware detection of Nvidia video processors.
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Wary 020

#9 Post by Billtoo »

[quote="BarryK".

...that's the latest driver, would like to know if that doesn't work for anyone.[/quote]

I am now using an older pc with an ati radeon 9200 pro graphics card, the xorg in Wary 020 gives a black screen, vesa works but wrong resolution, 1024X768 instead of 1440X900.After multiple reboots and trying both of the ATI pets the only thing that works is vesa and it's at the wrong resolution.

I am now in puppy 4.31 final and the xorg works at the correct resolution.
This is from the xorg.conf file in 4.31 final.

Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati" #card0driver
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1440x900"
EndSubsection
EndSection

#PuppyHardwareProfile=ATI_RADEON_9200HPw1707

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#10 Post by rjbrewer »

Tried Wary 020 on my Inspiron 700m, Intel 855gm graphics.
Live cd and full install ext4.

Xorg and Vesa start up fine without any freezing or black screen
problems.

It did freeze (black screen) on "power-off" until I added
acpi=force to grub kernel line.

edit:
Using pci=noacpi also works.

Mms and rtsp work on "Delicast.com".
It doesn't play a stream from my local public radio station; these
streams do work using vlc-8.6h "ttuuxxx" or gxine on my 4.1.2 and 4.3.1 installs.

http://www.kcur.org/ListenLive.html

edit;
See my Sun. Apr.25 post about playing kcur streams.


Gnome-mplayer plays flv, mp4, 3g2, wmv, asf, files fine.
Last edited by rjbrewer on Sun 25 Apr 2010, 19:03, edited 4 times in total.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

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#11 Post by JustGreg »

The devx.sfs has not been released for Wary 020. Can the Wary 019 version be used by renaming it to reflect the 020 version? Thanks in advance for the help.
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ATI driver

#12 Post by bigpup »

BarryK wrote:Don't forget guys, if you have ATI video, I would like to know if either of these alternate Xorg drivers work for you:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=180

Billtoo has already responded that he got the wrong screen resolution with the ATI driver that comes with Wary 020, got the correct resolution (1920X1080) when he used the 'xf86-video-ati-radeon_mach64_r128-6.12.7-w1.pet' package.

...that's the latest driver, would like to know if that doesn't work for anyone.
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP video card

Works only with Vesa driver, but not sure if I am doing this correctly. Installed both Ati drivers you sugested and started xorgwizard. When selecting the choose button should I see a list of drivers to select from?
If I select probe whatever gets selected gives me the black screen of death.

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#13 Post by rjbrewer »

On a Inspiron 4000; full install ext3

Ati rage mobility m3 agp2x, graphics.

Es1983s Maestro-3i sound.

No problem with graphics;
it took a few reboots before retrovol and tray speaker appeared.

Ext4 partitions can not be seen or mounted from other (ext2-ext3)
installs.

edit:
The ext 4 partitions can be seen and mounted on my 4.3.1 and 4.1.2
installs after erase and redraw icons in puppy-event-manager.
Last edited by rjbrewer on Sun 25 Apr 2010, 19:55, edited 1 time in total.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

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#14 Post by Sage »

We need fuzzy logic to define "old hardware" - it means different things to different people, different nations, different generations.
A young transatlantic stag wouldn't be caught using anything older than a 5GHz quad core with 4Gb - that's a fault of the great Wintel cartel and the marketing madness over there, possibly excepting enclaves of smart gurus from, ironically, their W. Coast (including Montana!).
On the other hand, there are plenty of impecunious as well as hobbyists from eg Euro, Pacific Rim & antipodean regions who are either constrained to or enjoy fiddling with PI/PII, even K6 machines. The only problem for the latter is installing, even obtaining, sufficient RAM to run compact distros from liveCD s.
My own hobbyshack is awash with late SktA machines, albeit single core. I refuse gifts of laptops - a perennial nuisance, but don't consider a 2600+ with 384RAM and a 128nV card as being anything near "old" or "obsolete". Only measured against the perverted W7 vista should anyone consider my kit as needing retro distros. How much memory did Apollo 11 have onboard?! We need some rationality in this whole fiasco. Wintel is the problem, not the solution and we must hope for a substantial improvement in education and awareness amongst some consumers?

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#15 Post by nooby »

My sig give details on my HP/Compaq SR5622SC and the only way to get wary020 going with it was to chose vesa. It showed a black screen and only hard reboot helpted to get out of it. Despite testing the acpi=force suggestion.

So here is what report-video says
bash: [: -ge: unary operator expected
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary, version 020

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G98 Board - 5610001u Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: 1024x768 Depth: 16

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


Vesa plays video well. The whole screen is misplaced many mm to the right compared to quirky013 that I usually use.

nothing else to report
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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Wary 020

#16 Post by Billtoo »

This is on an emachines d620 laptop.

VIDEO REPORT: Wary, version 020

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
radeonhd

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: 1280x800 Depth: 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

Probe warned that it may not be okay for monitor but it worked fine.

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#17 Post by `f00 »

______100423-1stLook______
Jwm looks real good (no corner artefacts with xcompmgr) - the icon-switcher downscaling may give a bit of crunkiness on some older pngs.

Heh, looks like there's profiles with pfbpanel now? (on reading xerr.log, maybe only provision for possibly) - that'll teach me to copy-overwrite a perfectly good new oem pfbpanel with the one I modded from w019 on an initial session that'll soon be commited to disc :roll: (must have been the eyeglaze from too much fiddling with the almost 1300 lines of config in some other wm).

All gone. Used a jwm traybutton to exit to prompt and .. blackscreen, no prompt, no kybd led, nada. I recall a mssg coming up about every time an rxvt console was started

Code: Select all

bash: [: -ge: unary operator expected
..and then a prompt would come up. Maybe that has something to do with it or a bad traybutton cmd for jwm490 <TrayButton popup="Exit to Prompt" icon="prompt16.xpm">exec:wmexit</TrayButton>. Found this out in w019 after an overwrite of the 489 binary with the 490. Or that binary is only for w020 :| (another blackscreen even trying ctrl+alt+bs in w019).

______100424,upgrade from w019 (so not a pure test)______
Did not try pet(s), it was enough to get vesa functional for me (and get it saved on a switch-in-disc on a reboot from w019 for upgrade - /tmp/versioncleanup dir fine). The codemssg above repeats as 1st line every time a console is opened. Not too much fiddling to get a comfy environment (nine wms work well, with some caveats for exiting jwm).

Jwm gives a blackscreen exit with anything other than a direct cmd in console or gexec ("restartwm" or "wmexit"), ctrl+alt+bs gives blackscreen (nasty surprise that, but it's so for me). Switching is 'normal' (in my case using plogout, a mod of a murgaLua applet from Macpup that I've been using) in all other wms (afterstep, blackbox, e16, fluxbox, jemimah's icewm-1.3.6, openbox, pekwm and wmx).

video test basically the same as for w019, xorg will not accept "ati" as driver in the usual mp edit (minor tweak of a few generic lines and h&v refresh) of xorg on initial boot (must be the as-given "vesa" on those driver lines)

ps - have yet to apply the edit in BarryK's initial article.. 'close' is relative to general consensus.

pps - conky fine (both w019 and w020) now, some dummy ;) pitched in some bad xcb* libset that earlier quirkys needed..

hwr@a
test on: i686 machine
processor - Pentium 3 @1GHz
RAM - 512M
vidcard0 - RV280 (aka ATI Radeon 9200), AGP
vidcard1 - not used, but also RV280 (switched off in BIOS - aka Radeon 9200SE), PCI (old-style)
soundcard - emu10k1 (aka Creative Audigy 2 ZS or SB0350)
boot/save method - liveCDrw, multisession
limitations - no printer, no internet connection
Attachments
xerrs.log.tar.gz
(very 1st initial xerrs.log inside archive)
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Re: wary020 memory meter?

#18 Post by BarryK »

broomdodger wrote:wary020 frugal
Question about the memory meter.

With a 32MB save file, there is 19MB free.
Not only is the memory meter red... but it is also flashing.

Tried right click to set min/max but no config, like the temp meter.

How to config?

It took some thought to determine what that icon is, ok, an "old" style memory chip! Somewhat like MS Windows still uses a floppy icon. But at first I thought rings on a post.
.
It is red and flashing to warn you that 19MB is not enough space to do much. You really should create a 64MB save file as minimum.

Yeah, the icon is strange. It is supposed to be kind of like an integrated circuit. I still haven't decided whether I like it or not.
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Re: wary020 more gnumeric issues

#19 Post by BarryK »

broomdodger wrote:wary020 frugal

start gnumeric from console after installing goffice-0.6.3.pet

# gnumeric
Reading file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: scg_edit_start: assertion `IS_SHEET_CONTROL_GUI (scg)' failed

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: wbcg_edit_finish: assertion `IS_SHEET (wbcg->editing_sheet)' failed
Writing file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: wbcg_edit_finish: assertion `IS_SHEET (wbcg->editing_sheet)' failed

** (gnumeric:24676): CRITICAL **: wbcg_edit_finish: assertion `IS_SHEET (wbcg->editing_sheet)' failed
#

start gnumeric from console
open an existing file
click in a cell
save
quit

================================================================
Tried the same in puppy431, no problems:

# gnumeric
Reading file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric
Writing file:///root/my-documents/Book1.gnumeric
#
.
But, apart from Gnumeric putting out those error messages, did it actually work? That is, the operations you selected (save, etc).

Gnumeric is famous for its verbosity, and many error messages do not actually stop it from working, so you need to clarify that.
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#20 Post by BarryK »

JustGreg wrote:The devx.sfs has not been released for Wary 020. Can the Wary 019 version be used by renaming it to reflect the 020 version? Thanks in advance for the help.
Yep, can do.
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