Quirky 1.2rc feedback

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#141 Post by scabz »

Testing on my EeePc 900a, I am really happy that i can finally play games that require Opengl using Puppy and not some huge bloated OS.Games that I have tested are OpenArena, Smokin' Guns, SuperTuxKart and Tremulous all are playable at decent speeds.

I just wanted to say thanks alot for quirky!!!

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#142 Post by BarryK »

I have bumped this thread up to Quirky 1.2rc:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01625

Lots of new goodies!
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Xdefaults

#143 Post by broomdodger »

Barry wrote:!broomdodger reported these work in puppy 431 with rxvt...
!Rxvt*keysym.0xFF50:\001
!Rxvt*keysym.0xFF57:\005
!but urxvt in quirky etc needs these...
Rxvt.keysym.Home: \033[1~
Rxvt.keysym.End: \033[4~
Almost :) For puppy 431 it should be:

!puppy431 sol eol
!Rxvt.keysym.0xFF50: \033[1~
!Rxvt.keysym.0xFF57: \033[4~

Similar to that for quirky, but the older rxvt (in puppy431) does not understand: Rxvt.keysym.Home or Rxvt.keysym.End

Both quirky112 and puppy431 will work with:
Rxvt.keysym.0xFF50: \033[1~
Rxvt.keysym.0xFF57: \033[4~
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strip is buggy

#144 Post by tatemono »

/bin/e3 crashes after applying strip command to reduce its size.
By the way, strip of Puppy 4.3.1 has the same problem.

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too many vi

#145 Post by tatemono »

I found 2 vi in Quirky 1.2rc.
One is /bin/vi, while the other is an alias, e3vi.

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Please apply shinobar's shell script to fix a bug in JWM

#146 Post by tatemono »

After adding a suitable unicode TTF file to Quirky, SeaMonkey displays unicode characters. However, it does not display unicode characters in its title bar. For example, if you visit http://map.yahoo.co.jp/, you cannot see the last 2 characters of "Yahoo!地図" displayed in title bar of SeaMonkey even if Android's TTF is added to the system.

In fact, this problem was solved by shinobar 11 months ago. Please apply his shell script, whose URL is http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/jwm_font_repair.sh, to fix a bug in JWM's setting causing this problem.

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libGL.so

#147 Post by tatemono »

libGL.so is needed to run Google Earth for Linux 5.1 and it is not included in Quirky.
Is it to be added to Quirky in the near future?

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Re: libGL.so

#148 Post by scabz »

tatemono wrote:libGL.so is needed to run Google Earth for Linux 5.1 and it is not included in Quirky.
Is it to be added to Quirky in the near future?
yes can be added to quirky in the near future or as soon as you go to the puppy package manager and install mesa "opengl and dri".

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#149 Post by `f00 »

(using a butchered q110 savefile copy, so..) xdeltas were fine

The default html viewer(s) in /usr/local/bin .. probably just as well that 'basic' invokes the almost-forgotten-in-quirky/wary PuppyBrowser and surfer seems to be only referenced in /usr/sbin/delayedrun (since it can't handle file:// and other address forms as-is). Too bad, since even the new SM is molasses-slow to load initially for me. Did .mht extension ever get properly mime'd? I see it has at least a different 'icon-look' if that portends anything :| and set/run does better than sendto did previously (.mht is more a webpage archive than plaintext). More local help is a good thing imo (SM local help has returned and there's some other things which don't simply give an online link) even if it adds to the size - judgement call there.

For me it's about 4-5 minutes into uptime that idle settles (looking at xload). SM takes 20 sec to load, old Opera10a about 14 sec, Arora about 9 sec and surfer almost instantly (but times shorten after initial cold loads so that's simply an offhand observation).

Drat, system just froze (was checking the soundfiles in /usr/share/audio with defaultaudioplayer pmusic and the last one played was beep_high.wav when it just froze with clockstop etc in pekwm - no way out except hardoff :| ). All oki in w020 .. probably just a fluke instance in q112 since freeze not repeatable on return (fwiw, fresh partial xerrs.log in tar.gz attached).

ps - UTC hwclock is maybe more for server? I used swatchtime for an unambiguous 'universal' time-reference at one point (but it never really caught on since it is unambiguous in it's division-format). Offsets can lead to misunderstandings occasionally (some few 'special cases' in DST whenifas observed regionally) .. edit posted @996 (;
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clock setting

#150 Post by Béèm »

I think, 95% of the users are unaware of the clock setting local/UTC and will be confused and won't know what to choose.

I think it's a too technical a question to ask.

Before the discussion on the issue, recently, I wasn't aware of this difference either.
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strange times of files in tmp after boot.

#151 Post by Béèm »

strange times of files in tmp after boot.
The red rectangle in the picture indicates the boot time.
Strangely enough, there are files which have a time 21 hours before the boot time.

How does this come?
Fortunately, important files like bootxxx.log seem to be correct.
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#152 Post by puppymartin »

The new file lists of "builtin" packages in Quirky 1.2 makes it easy to uninstall apps before remastering.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01620

I made a "builtin packages remover".
New version: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 950#422950
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#153 Post by Sylvander »

The latest retro version 1.2rc will not boot on either of my two PC's, when the previous retro version 1.1 booted fine on both. :(

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Re: strip is buggy

#154 Post by BarryK »

tatemono wrote:/bin/e3 crashes after applying strip command to reduce its size.
By the way, strip of Puppy 4.3.1 has the same problem.
We know this. Why are you reporting this as a bug?
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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Re: too many vi

#155 Post by BarryK »

tatemono wrote:I found 2 vi in Quirky 1.2rc.
One is /bin/vi, while the other is an alias, e3vi.
See blog:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01629
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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Re: Please apply shinobar's shell script to fix a bug in JWM

#156 Post by BarryK »

tatemono wrote:After adding a suitable unicode TTF file to Quirky, SeaMonkey displays unicode characters. However, it does not display unicode characters in its title bar. For example, if you visit http://map.yahoo.co.jp/, you cannot see the last 2 characters of "Yahoo!地図" displayed in title bar of SeaMonkey even if Android's TTF is added to the system.

In fact, this problem was solved by shinobar 11 months ago. Please apply his shell script, whose URL is http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/jwm_font_repair.sh, to fix a bug in JWM's setting causing this problem.
No, shinobar's script breaks JWM.

The script changes all entries like "DejVu Sans-12" to "DejaVu Sans 12". However, I found long ago that doing that breaks JWM.

If you modify /root/.jwm/jwm-theme:

Code: Select all

<WindowStyle>
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-14</Font>
...the title gets bigger, as expected. However, if you replace the '-' with a space, JWM ignores the size parameter, just uses the system default size, which is 12.

This is really a bug in JWM, it should be raised with the developer.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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Re: clock setting

#157 Post by BarryK »

Béèm wrote:I think, 95% of the users are unaware of the clock setting local/UTC and will be confused and won't know what to choose.

I think it's a too technical a question to ask.

Before the discussion on the issue, recently, I wasn't aware of this difference either.
The dialog window states that almost all Windows installations use localtime, also it states if in doubt choose localtime. So I don't see the problem.
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Re: strange times of files in tmp after boot.

#158 Post by BarryK »

Béèm wrote:strange times of files in tmp after boot.
The red rectangle in the picture indicates the boot time.
Strangely enough, there are files which have a time 21 hours before the boot time.

How does this come?
Fortunately, important files like bootxxx.log seem to be correct.
This is deliberate. I only need to know if it causes any trouble.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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#159 Post by BarryK »

puppymartin wrote:The new file lists of "builtin" packages in Quirky 1.2 makes it easy to uninstall apps before remastering.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01620

I made a drag and drop "builtin packages remover".

Install the pet and open two windows:
Window 1: /root/my-applications/bin/remove_builtin_files
Window 2: /root/.packages/builtin_files

Now drag and drop (one by one) the files from window 2 to the script "remove.pl" in window 1

The maps "backup" and "removed" will show you what you did.
Make a backup of your safe-file before using this script!
A thought: when an application is "uninstalled", also delete it's entry in /root/.packages/builtin_files -- would be important thing to do if remastering.
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#160 Post by jpeps »

I've noticed that quirky seems to have difficulty with streaming videos. I tried several browsers after pfix=ram using various youtube videos, and then compared with 4.4, which played them all smoothly with no issues. I'm using a Dell latitude D600 with a gig of ram.

edit: Did more tests...problems consistent in quirky 110 & 112 across all browsers (FF, opera, seamonkey, google-cromium) for same youtube videos that run smoothly in 4.4. Videos stall, get out of sync, etc.
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