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jpeps

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 13:54    Post subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
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My old Inspiron 4000, 800mhz cpu, Ati rage graphics, plays jerky
youtube . Xorg or Xvesa makes no difference.


Did you try the nvidia driver?
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 14:02    Post subject:  

Dear God please help........ is there any way I can go back to using the mouse driver configured via xorg.conf instead of the FISynclient system?
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 15:36    Post subject:  

Some stuff I came across when setting up a 1.2rc:
- during the boot from the CD I saw something with "oldmouse" and "file not found" coming up
- when I use the universal installer and what to install to an internal harddisk I get my single disk (sda) to choose. After I created the partition I see the same selection dialog again, but it has sda list twice (already happened with 1.1)
- also in the universal installer after I selected to install it to sda it says, that the partition has an ext4 filesystem, although it was formated with ext2
- "lock" (as seen on the Desktop) does nothing for me in VirtualBox 3.2.2 and on my laptop (same for 1.1)
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 15:37    Post subject:  

DaveS, If you never use Flsynclient then you have the old system. It doesn't do anything unless you run it.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 15:42    Post subject:  

This is a minor fix to xwin that will allow Xvesa to run at 1366x768. This is needed for the Eee 1101HA that has the Intel GMA500. The GMA500 has no decent Xorg driver so Xvesa support is definitely required.
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 15:47    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:
DaveS, If you never use Flsynclient then you have the old system. It doesn't do anything unless you run it.


Can I disable it AFTER I have run it?

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 16:09    Post subject:  

This is driving me crazy. I HAVE to run Flsynclient inorder to activate touchpad tapping. Changing settings in xorg.conf has ZERO effect on my touchpad behavior. I need to highlight, copy, and paste blocks of data around in spreadsheets, but when I highlight said blocks, they randomly paste themselves into the document, sometimes several times over. Sometimes, I will click on Rox to open it, and three or four windows open at once. NOTHING I do seems to have any effect. What am I missing?
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 20:47    Post subject: Quirky 1.2rc feedback
Subject description: quirky 1.2 final
 

I downloaded quirky 1.2 final about 10 a.m. EDT and have been tying it out for hours. I compiled vlc 1.06 and made vlc the default player in pupradio.I was able to get 3 tv stations and 4 radio stations.

There is an application named tunapie that I have used in lucid puppy and kdpup, it gives shoutcast listings of radio and tv stations, well over 100, and most are in Europe although some are in the U.S. and the bitrate ranges from around 100-500 for tv and some radio stations have a bitrate of 32 so not too hard on bandwidth.I've tried to install tunapie in quirky 120 but I've had no luck,you can also make you're favourite player the default in tunapie preferences, I find smplayer works well in kdpup.

Anyhow, I don't have the knowhow but "tunapie-2.1.17.tar.gz" available at sourceforge.net would make a great pet for Quirky 1.2 I'd say Smile

I see that CPU frequency scaling works automatically in this new quirky, I couldn't get it to work at all in 1.2rc.

I've been messing with vlc all day but the new quirky seems very solid and works well.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 21:05    Post subject:  

I have started a new thread for Quirky 1.2:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56436

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Abnormalter


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jun 2010, 09:22    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:

But I've been active here now 24/7 since Christmas 2009 and I get the feeling that Puppy Linux is more like a hobby project by Barry and supported and individually developed also by others that love what Barry suggested.

I'm use Puppy above 1.5 years. Between PuppyLinux 3.0 and Developer Puppy 4.84 it is very preferable & robust OS for home and working...

nooby wrote:

What you take up do apply to major distros.

Yes!
nooby wrote:

Am I not right in that Barry does indicate on his blog that this is experimental project that we use on our own risk and not something he promise to have the status of a warranted software?

Of course. But various Puppy releases, include developers, and on long time about 1.5 years runs fine and present as some reasonable and usable OS for more PCs. Only personally Barry developing basic of this OS, who present on Puppy codes between 2.xx and 4.xx, is very valuable solutions and invaluable contribution to the FSF.

nooby wrote:
I don't criticise you but maybe, just maybe you take Puppy too seriously?

No! No! Puppy is seriously OS, very seriously! Wink Smile
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Friendly smile from a total Nobody

I'm too! Smile Smile Smile

P.S. Excuse my for answers delaying... Sad
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maddox

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jun 2010, 20:01    Post subject:  

Quirky's pmount doesn't correctly recognize windows UDF formatted CD/DVD disks : win's native burner prog burns them as UDF disks.
They are incorrectly recognised as "iso9660" and pmount won't mount them (red box error message)
"guess_fstype" correctly returns a FS as "udf"
using a console "mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/data" will mount the DVD-R, and contents are accessible (RO) without errors.

Tried "pudd" to copy an internal hd ntfs XP partition to an external USB-2 ntfs HD partition :
pudd automatically zero's the ntfs partition (for partition compression) then copies the data in very small blocks,
this takes really more than ages...
So I tried a console command : "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=100000" -> 47155497984 bytes (47 GB) copied, 5065,81 s, 9,3 MB/s
- real data size was 3.47 GB and the rest was zeros
adding the option "bs=100000" or more really speeded up things -> 1hr 24min compared to +-10hrs, the copied ntfs partition seems clean using gparted.
After rebooting win XP, it needed 2 reboots : 1st reboot did a very quick check of the filesystem, all OK (updated file descriptors)
and 2nd reboot did a HAL update as I changed the HD : diff model and slightly bigger partition size.
- dd uses physical RAM size available and going overboard on "bs" can result in a no freeram situation,
so maybe a check on FreeRam minus a bit might be worth it.

Synaptics touchpad has a unknown function for me :
ex: open tray volume, then use mouse click to open volume bar, use 1 finger on touchpad to put cursor in vol bar area
and without removing 1st finger, use 2nd finger (on same hand) to slide volume level up or down (limit ~ 50%)
- This reminds me of my kid's HP pavillon laptop with a scroll bar setup on either side of the touchpad.
If the 2 fingers touch, the cursor will jump outside of the volume bar area : static or pressure sensitive area
- it does work although rather jumpy
But using 2 fingers at the same time (on same hand) and separated a bit, the volume will go up or down without jumps and seems independant of the intial finger pressure.

If the comma against point could be fixed for non US local users, this would be great (desktop icon partition size "0,0GB" )
also noticed this only happens if the size isn't round (contains decimal values)

".mid" file extensions aren't recognised by the default media player, this worked in puppy 4.3x series and before.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jun 2010, 21:00    Post subject:  

Also noticed that CPU Temp warning will output multiple windows hidden under each other.
ex : if I let Quirky run for a while, there are multiple overTemp screens to cancel.

Also checked the same laptop under winXP and win7, what I noticed was that my fan has 2 speeds depending on the CPU temp,

Using "everest" (a win diag prog) I found out that the fan ran at slower speed before the CPU temp hit 72°C, and after that, it ran at full speed
so as to cool the CPU down.
Temp dropped from 72°C to 67°C (fan at full speed)
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jun 2010, 22:30    Post subject:  

maddox wrote:
Tried "pudd" to copy an internal hd ntfs XP partition to an external USB-2 ntfs HD partition

Read here for a faster cloning tool than Pudd.
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Béèm


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jun 2010, 10:54    Post subject:  

maddox wrote:
Also noticed that CPU Temp warning will output multiple windows hidden under each other.
ex : if I let Quirky run for a while, there are multiple overTemp screens to cancel.

Also checked the same laptop under winXP and win7, what I noticed was that my fan has 2 speeds depending on the CPU temp,

Using "everest" (a win diag prog) I found out that the fan ran at slower speed before the CPU temp hit 72°C, and after that, it ran at full speed
so as to cool the CPU down.
Temp dropped from 72°C to 67°C (fan at full speed)
I tried the latest everest (beta) but it doesn't give sensor information. fan speed neither.
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jun 2010, 21:15    Post subject:  

rcrsn51
tried your gnoclone prog : internal XP ntfs HD partition to external usb XP ntfs partition
this test ntfs XP partition was a basic setup with 3 extra utility progs installed, no games or other extra soft installed
- extremly fast and sucessfull, 2min 20 sec for 3.47GB "file data" copied against ~1hr using pudd with bs=100000
maybe just add a quick reminder for win users : reboot 2 times after copying -> chkdsdk and HAL update (not exactely in that order, depends on partition size)
I haven't tried it on a vista partition, as they are somewhat different
if this catches on, could the binaries be translatable ?

Béèm
also used the win "everest" beta limited version
I used the graphical stress test to push the already warm laptop (my laptop's CPU fan doesn't have the 3rd wire : rpm )
if the cpu load is high and it's Temp goes over 72°C, the fan goes to full speed.

what I noticed, Quirky outputs a warning when the CPU reaches 71°C (BIOS or ACPI limits if applicable)
the fan starts at low speed at ~68°C (sys-info faster update), and if the cpu load is low this is sufficient to cool the CPU down to 56°C
if the cpu load is high (benchmark) and it's Temp goes over 72°C, the fan goes to full speed.
What might be incorrectly misinterpreted is either the OverTemp pop-up or the dashboard's thermometer icon and it's associated colors.
Maybe reserve the OverTemp pop-up for extreme cpu Temp and a message to shutdown immediatley.
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