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#41 Post by jemimah »

smokey01 wrote:Jemimah ,

I just had a long play with fluppy on the Kogan netbook. Everything I tried worked except the mouse pad. Wireless worked fine even after rebooting.

I installed as frugal and saved the pupsave file as ext4.

The screen resolution at 1024x600 looks good.

Are the folder icons suppose to be black? Not too keen on them so I changed to HaikuPup icons, very nice.

Now if I could just get the mouse pad to work I would be very happy.

If I plug in a usb mouse it works fine

I I do like your puppeee desktop better though. Are you able to offer it as an option in fluppy?

Many thanks

Grant (aka smokey01)
Hmm, do you know anything about the touchpad hardware? Does it work on other Puppies? I assume the mouse just doesn't move at all right?

I changed the themes around a bit so it doesn't look exactly like Puppeee. If you want the Puppeee wallpapers I can post them.

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#42 Post by jemimah »

smokey01 wrote:Houston we have a problem!

When I close the lid of the laptop to suspend, it works however, when I open the lid it does not unsuspend.

The same happens if I choose suspend from the shutdown menu.

Same problem with hibernate from the shutdown menu. I did include the line resume=/dev/sda5/ on the kernel line.

I have to hold the power button on until the laptop shuts down.

This is with the Kogan laptop.
Suspend problems are difficult.

Sometimes it's just the backlight that doesn't come back on. You may be able to get by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f4. Otherwise you can disable lid suspend using acpi-control.

Other times it will work if you unload certain drivers before suspending. Mostly you have to figure it out with trial and error.

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#43 Post by jemimah »

JustGreg wrote: Chrome has a learning curve for me. I have a html file of bookmarks in root. I could not get Chrome to import it. Chrome kept looking for a "browser" directory. My suggestion is to do like Lucid Puppy 5.0 and have the user select the desired browser. Puppy Browser does work for the initial start-up.
The problem is that Puppy Browser is not actually small and I'm not willing to have no browser. The small Midori is not stable enough yet. Chrome is by far the fastest browser, has a good UI for netbooks, and is widely supported.

You can get my Firefox SFS here: http://puppeee.com/files/sfs/firefox-36Flash10.sfs

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#44 Post by smokey01 »

Hmm, do you know anything about the touchpad hardware?
Unfortunately no. Is there a way I can find this out?
Does it work on other Puppies?
None at all. It works fine with gOS though which is the OS that came pre installed.
I assume the mouse just doesn't move at all right?
Correct, absolutely no movement.
I changed the themes around a bit so it doesn't look exactly like Puppeee. If you want the Puppeee wallpapers I can post them.
Thanks for the offer but I don't mind the haikupup icons and I don't want to put any additional strain on your already busy life.

I can probably live without the suspend and hibernate function as I rarely use them but it would be nice to get them working just for completeness.

I will try the tips you provided and report back.

Thanks

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#45 Post by smokey01 »

jemimah I has just found something I can try. I hope it makes more sense to you than I.

http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/04/2 ... esnt-work/

Holy S&#t it worked. The touchpad now works perfectly, including tapping.

I'm sure this will be useful for others too.

Thanks again

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#46 Post by smokey01 »

Ok, I tried:
Sometimes it's just the backlight that doesn't come back on. You may be able to get by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f4. Otherwise you can disable lid suspend using acpi-control.
It didn't work. I then tried Fn+F9 and it blanked the screen. I pressed it again but it didn't unblank it. I touched the power button then Fn+F9 and the screen came to life. It had shut down the wireless connection and I couldn't get it back either by clicking on the icon or entering configuration and pressing connect. I had to reboot to get it working again. I did notice it reporting my internet connection as Eth0 for my Ethernet, which is not connected, and Eth1 for my wireless connection which does connect and works fine. I would have expected to see wlan0 for my wireless connection.

How do I do
Otherwise you can disable lid suspend using acpi-control.

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#47 Post by smokey01 »

Jemimah I coudln't get bluetooth to work either although it does work on puppeee. Well it seemed to be working as it connected but I couldn't transfer files between my Samsung Omnia and the Kogan.

In the past I have transferred files between the Omnia and puppeee on the eee pc 4G.

Strange?

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#48 Post by nooby »

You need to add i8042.nomux to the end of the kernel line
Wow. Who ever would have guessed that one. :) I had no idea
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#49 Post by smokey01 »

Neither did I.

It's amazing what you can find on the web if you look hard enough.

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#50 Post by JustGreg »

jemimah wrote:
The problem is that Puppy Browser is not actually small and I'm not willing to have no browser. The small Midori is not stable enough yet. Chrome is by far the fastest browser, has a good UI for netbooks, and is widely supported.
Yes, jemimah, I do understand and have no problem. As far as the bookmarks and chrome, my solution was to set the home page to the bookmarks file. Now when chrome starts up the bookmarks are right there. If I want to see them to go to place, just click on the home page. One thing nice about learning curves, they are conquerable and learn something.

I have tried the window managers and icewm wins for me.

I will look around for clock or tray files and see if I can figure out how to set it to 24 hour format. If I have any luck, then I will post the solution.
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#51 Post by jemimah »

smokey01 wrote: How do I do
Otherwise you can disable lid suspend using acpi-control.
Click the netboook icon next to the start menu. Then uncheck, "suspend when lid is closed".

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#52 Post by jemimah »

smokey01 wrote:Jemimah I coudln't get bluetooth to work either although it does work on puppeee. Well it seemed to be working as it connected but I couldn't transfer files between my Samsung Omnia and the Kogan.

In the past I have transferred files between the Omnia and puppeee on the eee pc 4G.

Strange?
The bluetooth version is exactly the same. Do you get an error, or it just hangs?

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#53 Post by jemimah »

JustGreg wrote:
I will look around for clock or tray files and see if I can figure out how to set it to 24 hour format. If I have any luck, then I will post the solution.
You need to edit the IceWM config file. On the menu it's Desktop->Manually Edit IceWM Configuration.

Search for

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#  Clock Time format (strftime format string)
 TimeFormat="%I:%M %p"
Then change it to

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#  Clock Time format (strftime format string)
 TimeFormat="%R"

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#54 Post by JustGreg »

Thank you, Jermimah. While you were posting, I was playing with the manual edit of ICEWM preferences. I also found the desktop change menu for ICEWM preferences. It did not work for me. But, the help mentioned strftime man page. I checked the man page and find the format code needed was %H:%M. I did the editing and it worked. I am posting this using Fluppy. Thank you very much for the quick response
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#55 Post by gerry »

Well, that idea didn't get far- I can't unzip it. I'm trying to unzip it using Puppy 431. How does everybody do it?

I'm getting messages like "cannot find zipfile directory....", and "Either this file is not a zip file, or..."

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#56 Post by JustGreg »

I did some searching and found in the past the Aspire 1 needed the acerdhf.ko kernel module to control the fan and temperature. The same module is used by Acer Aspire One. I did find a web site with the source code and tried to compile via the make command the module using Puppy 5.01 Lucid. It did compile, but no luck. When I tried to insert it into Fluppy, I got an "invaild module format" from modprobe. I have to search some more. There may be a later source. The only pets I found were for Puppy 4.3 versions. I found that I did have the latest source version 0.5.23 for kernel 2.6.30+
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#57 Post by jemimah »

gerry wrote:Well, that idea didn't get far- I can't unzip it. I'm trying to unzip it using Puppy 431. How does everybody do it?

I'm getting messages like "cannot find zipfile directory....", and "Either this file is not a zip file, or..."

gerry
Is the md5sum correct? Xarchive should be able to open it.

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#58 Post by jemimah »

JustGreg wrote:I did some searching and found in the past the Aspire 1 needed the acerdhf.ko kernel module to control the fan and temperature. The same module is used by Acer Aspire One. I did find a web site with the source code and tried to compile via the make command the module using Puppy 5.01 Lucid. It did compile, but no luck. When I tried to insert it into Fluppy, I got an "invaild module format" from modprobe. I have to search some more. There may be a later source. The only pets I found were for Puppy 4.3 versions. I found that I did have the latest source version 0.5.23 for kernel 2.6.30+
You have to compile it for the Fluppy kernel. The Puppeee devx (you've got to rename it) and Barry's Quirky kernel source should work . I will upload the Fluppy kernel config when I get a few minutes to work on it.
http://puppeee.com/files/Puppeee%20RC3/eee_devx_480.sfs

If you send me a link to the source for the acer module, I'll add it to Fluppy003.

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#59 Post by gerry »

@jemima- Oops! Grovel, grovel- you are right. I've been getting a bit careless about checking MD5 lately, I've never had a wrong one, seems to be a waste of time. Not any more...

gerry

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#60 Post by Lobster »

Used Fluppy to output to a digital TV

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http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 000#425000

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4S7MKuNqc4
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