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Lucid Puppy 5.0 - Bug Reports and Bug Fixes
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rsaavedra

Joined: 05 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jun 2010, 08:49    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
The Puppy installer doesn't automatically install grub and configure the menu lst because 1) some users want grub installed to the mbr while others choose to leave the mbr untouched and 2) some multi-boot users don't want to reinstall grub every time they install, its easier and faster to just edit the menu lst.

Good reasons to not have it "installed automatically." Not good reasons to simply not offer the user the option to install it right away, instead of asking the user to go ahead and install it afterwards, which is one of my points.

James C wrote:
There are several ways to do a frugal install, and the resulting entry in the menu lst will be different as well.

True, but what difference does that make to my other point? I installed Puppy, whichever way, and then I choose to install grub. Said grub installation should *not* be left pointing to the Puppy files in the wrong folder, and should *not* be left with missing lines, as if I had installed Puppy a different way.
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jun 2010, 13:23    Post subject:  
rsaavedra wrote:
James C wrote:
The Puppy installer doesn't automatically install grub and configure the menu lst because 1) some users want grub installed to the mbr while others choose to leave the mbr untouched and 2) some multi-boot users don't want to reinstall grub every time they install, its easier and faster to just edit the menu lst.

Good reasons to not have it "installed automatically." Not good reasons to simply not offer the user the option to install it right away, instead of asking the user to go ahead and install it afterwards, which is one of my points.

James C wrote:
There are several ways to do a frugal install, and the resulting entry in the menu lst will be different as well.

True, but what difference does that make to my other point? I installed Puppy, whichever way, and then I choose to install grub. Said grub installation should *not* be left pointing to the Puppy files in the wrong folder, and should *not* be left with missing lines, as if I had installed Puppy a different way.


Just did a full install of Lucid to an old laptop.
Worked fine; same as every time since I started with 3.00.
No need to touch grub menu.lst.
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mave

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jun 2010, 14:42    Post subject:  encrypted ext3-lupusave: broken files (?)  
Hi,

testing encryption on a new Lucid Puppy 5.0.1 with lupusave-file within ext3 file format. After next starting desktop icons (and other) are gone. Look at the screenshot.

Did I fail reading a special info about ext3 and encryption or...? (doing ext2 is okay)

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rsaavedra

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jun 2010, 17:04    Post subject:  
rjbrewer wrote:
Just did a full install of Lucid to an old laptop.
Worked fine; same as every time since I started with 3.00.
No need to touch grub menu.lst.

Good for you!

Was that a dual boot setup? (Mine was.)

I haven´t retried the installation, but once again, in my case with the latest version it wasn't the same as every time since I started installing Puppy years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jun 2010, 18:14    Post subject:  
rsaavedra wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:
Just did a full install of Lucid to an old laptop.
Worked fine; same as every time since I started with 3.00.
No need to touch grub menu.lst.

Good for you!

Was that a dual boot setup? (Mine was.)

I haven´t retried the installation, but once again, in my case with the latest version it wasn't the same as every time since I started installing Puppy years ago.


1 install to empty drive
1 dual boot with another puppy
1 dual boot with Xp
1 triple boot with puppies and Xp
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rsaavedra

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Jun 2010, 00:16    Post subject:  
rjbrewer wrote:
1 install to empty drive
1 dual boot with another puppy
1 dual boot with Xp
1 triple boot with puppies and Xp

Hmm, and did you install Grub onto the MBR in any of those cases, in particular your 3rd case, dual boot with Xp, which would be the closest to my case?
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Jun 2010, 01:51    Post subject:  
rsaavedra wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:
1 install to empty drive
1 dual boot with another puppy
1 dual boot with Xp
1 triple boot with puppies and Xp

Hmm, and did you install Grub onto the MBR in any of those cases, in particular your 3rd case, dual boot with Xp, which would be the closest to my case?


I've always installed Grub to MBR; with Win98, ME, Xp , and even Win 7
once. They were almost always fresh installs of Win, and just had a
single partition.
It's not too fashionable anymore, with things like Grub4Dos, LinNWin,
etc. being recommended very often.
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Jun 2010, 02:10    Post subject:  
rjbrewer wrote:

I've always installed Grub to MBR; with Win98, ME, Xp , and even Win 7
once. They were almost always fresh installs of Win, and just had a
single partition.
It's not too fashionable anymore, with things like Grub4Dos, LinNWin,
etc. being recommended very often.


I always install grub to the MBR too.Single boot,dual boot,triple boot........right now my test box has Windows and 14 Linux installs. Laughing

Works fine for me every time.
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rsaavedra

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Jun 2010, 17:25    Post subject:  
rjbrewer wrote:
I've always installed Grub to MBR; with Win98, ME, Xp , and even Win 7
once. They were almost always fresh installs of Win, and just had a
single partition.
It's not too fashionable anymore, with things like Grub4Dos, LinNWin,
etc. being recommended very often.

Well, what I got does not seem easily reproduceable them.

One last question: under which folder did your vmlinuz file ended up located, under / or under /boot?

As I explained earlier, after the install my original (and wrong) menu.lst indicated that vmlinuz was allegedly under /boot, when it actually ended up under /. Why that happened I can't really tell, but it happened (together with the missing initrd line), and it wouldn't let Puppy launch right after installation.

I'll try to redo the installation. It was in an old Sony desktop PC that is not mine, so I'll have to get back to that place and retry the installation from scratch. Will report afterwards.
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cinclus_cinclus

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jun 2010, 08:30    Post subject: UnsolvedRe: [solved] compile error: Barry's patched 2.6.33.2  
cinclus_cinclus wrote:
A large part of the kernel source doesn't build with the binutils v. 2.18 which are part of lupu_devx_501.sfs.

Install binutils v. 2.20.1 instead from the Puppy Package Manager of Lupu 501 for compiling Barry's patched 2.6.33.2 kernel-source.

The bug is always there in lucy203 and luci_devx_203.sfs.

Same remedy: use binutils 2.20.1 from Puppy Package Manager.

Tested by recompiling Barry's newest kernel-source (2.6.33.5) patched with BFS-scheduler-patch by Con Kolivas: 2.6.33-sched-bfs-318.patch.
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WesH

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jun 2010, 20:24    Post subject: Belkin Wireless USB Stick F5D7050 V1 ZD1211RW
Subject description: Can no longer connect to wireless network		  
Hi, I installed 5.0.1 and have run into problems with connecting to my wireless network. It worked fine with 4.3.1 right out of the box.

I am using a Belkin Wireless USB Stick - F5D7050 V1, and trying to connect using the ZD1211RW Module.

When I try to scan for my non broadcasting wireless network its SSID appears as "\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00" instead of as hidden, and I am unable to connect to it.

When set to broadcast it appears as its normal name, but I am still unable to connect.

I suspect that something may have changed with ZD1211RW between 4.3.1 and 5.0.1.

I am very new to using Linux so I hope I provided enough relevant information, let me know if you have any suggestions or requests for more info.

-Wes
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jun 2010, 21:18    Post subject: Re: Belkin Wireless USB Stick F5D7050 V1 ZD1211RW
Subject description: Can no longer connect to wireless network		  
WesH wrote:
Hi, I installed 5.0.1 and have run into problems with connecting to my wireless network. It worked fine with 4.3.1 right out of the box.

I am using a Belkin Wireless USB Stick - F5D7050 V1, and trying to connect using the ZD1211RW Module.

When I try to scan for my non broadcasting wireless network its SSID appears as "\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00" instead of as hidden, and I am unable to connect to it.

When set to broadcast it appears as its normal name, but I am still unable to connect.

I suspect that something may have changed with ZD1211RW between 4.3.1 and 5.0.1.

I am very new to using Linux so I hope I provided enough relevant information, let me know if you have any suggestions or requests for more info.

-Wes


I have that same wireless card.
Works on everything since before Puppy 3.00; including 5.01
Quirky, Wary.
Using WPA unhidden.
SNS (simple net setup) and network wizard both work.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jun 2010, 21:51    Post subject: Re: Belkin Wireless USB Stick F5D7050 V1 ZD1211RW
Subject description: Can no longer connect to wireless network		  
rjbrewer wrote:

I have that same wireless card.
Works on everything since before Puppy 3.00; including 5.01
Quirky, Wary.
Using WPA unhidden.
SNS (simple net setup) and network wizard both work.


Thanks for the response.

I will burn a fresh copy of the .iso and do a fresh install to see if that fixes my problem.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jun 2010, 21:57    Post subject: Re: Belkin Wireless USB Stick F5D7050 V1 ZD1211RW
Subject description: Can no longer connect to wireless network		  
WesH wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:

I have that same wireless card.
Works on everything since before Puppy 3.00; including 5.01
Quirky, Wary.
Using WPA unhidden.
SNS (simple net setup) and network wizard both work.


Thanks for the response.

I will burn a fresh copy of the .iso and do a fresh install to see if that fixes my problem.


I did notice one strange thing with Lucid;

All the other Puppies show signal strength of 70/100 or better.
Lucid showed 20/100. Still connected, so I didn't pay it any mind.
Doubt if I'll be using any of these 5xx distros anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jun 2010, 04:42    Post subject:  
Just tried Lucid Puppy 5.0.1 on my Acer desktop, Pentium 4, 768mb RAM, 2 X 40gb HDDs. It installed OK, but Mplayer doesn't work and several programs can't see any Hard Drives, the CD Drive or USB Sticks that are plugged-in. Below is are a few examples.

1. Console command df -h shows sdb1 has 37.00 gb with 4gb free space
2. Lupu's Gparted indicates that -- sdb1 has 31.49 gb Unallocated Space
3. Lupu's Pmount indicates that --- sdb1 has 31.50 gb with 4gb free space
4. Lupu's ROX Filer indicates that sdb1 is full of movie files

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