Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

[chrismt]

I tried Luci 203 and found it quite stable

I wish there was a utility in Lucid that automatically downloads Hphosts database from http://hosts-file.net and adds it to the Puppy Hosts Block

It can be an alternative to Hostsman in Windows

http://www.abelhadigital.com/hostsman

Can someone spend some time on it?

[Jim1911]

Hi mick,

The Amarok saga

Well I've made an Amarok sfs that works.. after I had made several that didn't

The main problem is KDE 4.4 with Ubuntu is buggy! The internet is literally littered with bug reports about Ubuntu and KDE4, most of them unsolved. I was getting close, but to be honest the latest Amorok looks terrible, unintuitive, this old 1.4 version IMHO is much better, maybe it hasn't got the latest and greatest features, but it works!

I have made a KDE4 runtime sfs but it is subject to much testing before I dare upload it!

The sfs, is just the old sfs "remastered", that is, it has the updated Ubuntu libs and the Xine-libs added. I used the tool I posted above, it works to merge folders in old sfs too, if you name the old dir and the dir to create the sfs the exact same name.

http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lucid/a ... -lucid.sfs 59MB

7d43a3f719e8f32847d1ab1acd58e316 amarok-1.4-lucid.sfs

Enjoy!

Cheers

Thank you! Thank you! You've repaired whatever changed from lucid 5.01 to the current luci. Your updated amarok-1.4-lucid.sfs works great with luci 203.

Cheers,
Jim

[prehistoric]

Don't groan folks, but I've had a failure of CUPS with both my Samsung ML-1710 laser printer and my HP Officejet 6000a inkjet. I've had them working in Zigbert's Stardust 13, with a little effort. Under Stardust, the Samsung uses the Splix 2.00 driver recommended by openprinting.org, now part of the Linux foundation. If I need to use that, it may need to be recompiled.

I'm baffled by the behavior of the CUPS interface using netsurf. I can press buttons for 'Add Printer', and it recognizes these two connected by USB. I can select appropriate drivers, once these are installed. However, I'm not getting any response to such things as 'Print Test Page'.

Being baffled by CUPS is hardly a unique experience. Should I try a different browser? Could I have a problem talking to localhost:631 after I've installed a printer? Is there some magic action I'm omitting? Are mysterious dark forces taking possession of my machine when I invoke the CUPS demon?

(That's it, the interface must need a pentacle!)

[playdayz]

Groan. I had to--I am the one who suffers most from Cups.

The first step would be to use another browser--I think Firefox is safe. Then go to localhost:631 and hope for the best.

I was hoping against hope that Netsurf would work.... but I was paying more attention to other things in 203.

The second step would be to go to the first message in this thread and download and install the foomatic-db and see if more printers show up and even, it could happen, work! For the HP you should also download the extra HP ppd file; I think there is a good chance that will help.

Actually you are helping though I know it is frustrating. It is certain that the HP printer and scanner files help with HP's. What I am not sure of is whether foomatic-db helps with anything.

[DaveS]

CUPS+browser........ There HAS to be another way...............?

[Jim1911]

I hope the problem with Simple Network Setup opening with each reboot has been corrected. Presently, it opens with "STATUS: Currently there is no internet connection" which isn't correct as I'm posting using the connection now.

[playdayz]

I hope the problem with Simple Network Setup opening with each reboot has been corrected. Presently, it opens with "STATUS: Currently there is no internet connection" which isn't correct as I'm posting using the connection now.

Yes it has Jim. Watch for 204 tomorrow. Thanks.

[playdayz]

CUPS+browser........ There HAS to be another way...............?

One would think. I will look some more.

Here is the solution I am considering. When someone tries to start Cups the first time and they have not already picked and installed a browser then they will see the Browser Chooser. But that would mean that one would need the Internet in order to be able to print. Also I am hoping that if we can install Netsurf 2.x that Netsurf will do the job. I am open for better solutions. Please!

[prehistoric]

Groan. I had to--I am the one who suffers most from Cups.

You are not alone. I can't tell you how many utter that name like a curse.

The first step would be to use another browser--I think Firefox is safe. Then go to localhost:631 and hope for the best.

I was hoping against hope that Netsurf would work.... but I was paying more attention to other things in 203.

I get approximately the same behavior with Firefox. Now I'm wondering if the firewall is protecting me from contact with printers directly connected to localhost. Is there a simple, obvious way to disable the firewall temporarily, or is this a command line operation? I try to approach things the way a naive user would. When I start command line wizardry, my configuration quickly becomes idiosyncratic.

The second step would be to go to the first message in this thread and download and install the foomatic-db and see if more printers show up and even, it could happen, work! For the HP you should also download the extra HP ppd file; I think there is a good chance that will help.

Sorry, I didn't say I had installed both the foomatic db and the hpijs-3.10.2-dynppd pets. The new entries do show up in the printer administration menus. I've also tried dropping a ppd file in the box saying to drop it here, but this produced no apparent result. I think that is broken. Generally, it seems every communication with a printer, after initially detecting the printer, fails.

Actually you are helping though I know it is frustrating. It is certain that the HP printer and scanner files help with HP's. What I am not sure of is whether foomatic-db helps with anything.

Don't worry. You needn't tell me, I've been here before. Some time back, after some success with Stardust printing, I rashly decided I would help by testing at least one printer from each of several major manufacturers. One friend with a Canon machine promptly left town for a month. My test site with an Epson machine had a family crisis, which precluded experiments. Then, I became ill.

See why I suspect dark forces?

[playdayz]

I get approximately the same behavior with Firefox. Now I'm wondering if the firewall is protecting me from contact with printers directly connected to localhost. Is there a simple, obvious way to disable the firewall temporarily, or is this a command line operation?

That is interesting. It should not be a browser problem with Firefox. The simple check is to reboot with pfix=ram and do not install the firewall and see what happens.

I can't tell you how many utter that name like a curse.

It is good to know at least that I am not alone. Sometimes when I am frustrated with it I think, is this the best we can do? But sometimes things can be harder with Puppy because we do not have the standard Linux setup that most software assumes.

[smokey01]

I don't know why but sometimes when I can't get cups to work I just use the ppd file that I know works with my printer and load it manually in cups. That's how it is working at the moment.

cups can be a real bitch.

[James C]

Kinda glad I don't have a printer at the moment..............

[James C]

James, tubeguy.. if you don't mind a little command line stuff, I've made a script to package up stuff you grab from the Ubuntu repos..

Neat stuff.

Went ahead and made a pet for Arora browser.Even has an icon in the menu

Thanks for all your work on Puppy.

[prehistoric]

O.K. guys, I tried starting from scratch, with pfix=ram and no firewall. That was a red herring. It behaves exactly the same way.

With the exception of not being able to drag and drop a ppd file into the form, every problem seems to come in trying to use printers after I have added them. Once added, I can't even seem to delete a printer.

Could I be back to having to login as lpadmin to do anything? I've been thinking you got rid of the problem of having to login as root. Indeed, I can't see any obvious place to do a login.

Oooh, CUPS, damn it, CUPS!

Added: I've tried smokey01's work around of manually installing the ppd. That isn't the problem either. The correct ppd is present, e.g. for the HP Officejet 6000a E609a, CUPS just doesn't want to do anything with it.
------flash update------
Printing from Abiword works! The bug is in printing that test page from CUPS. Arrrghh! We've been here before.
(Did zigbert fix this one?)

[01micko]

James, tubeguy.. if you don't mind a little command line stuff, I've made a script to package up stuff you grab from the Ubuntu repos..

Neat stuff.

Went ahead and made a pet for Arora browser.Even has an icon in the menu

Thanks for all your work on Puppy.

Happy 1000th post James!

Where's your pet uploaded? You can use one of those free sites with heaps of ads if you like and playdayz or myself can mirror it.(btw, thanks again Smokey ). It will probably end up in the official repo, we need more!

..and thanks for all your testing.

Cheers

[01micko]

New browser-default pet, it covers the newer chrome and splashes your choice, as well as launching it...

Also find attached a new pack-deb-wheelbarrow script (or whatever it was called ).. renamed to debs2pkg. Added stripping of bins and libs, as an option halfway through the script.

Cheers

[WhoDo]

Where's your pet uploaded? You can use one of those free sites with heaps of ads if you like and playdayz or myself can mirror it.

Nah! Use DataFileHost - http://www.datafilehost.com/ - it's free, good speed and no ads!

[tubeguy]

Just set up this FTP account:

host tubeguy.org
username: u36061570-lucidpets
password: PM me for password

Open to anybody wanting to post Lucid pets.

[prehistoric]

In case people missed my added comment above, CUPS does in fact work with the Samsung ML-1710 and HP Officejet 6000a, (using the foomatic-db and hpijs pets) it just doesn't print the test page as expected, or perform several other actions. I've been able to print from Abiword.

Two programs compiled by ttuuxxx for the puppy 4 series also work on my installation of luci203: galculator-1.3.3.pet and gtkhash-0.2.1-i486.pet.

This last takes me into an area of my ignorance. I've long wanted to associate several programs with the .iso file type. My reading of the documentation says this should be possible as an 'advanced use' of ROX filer, by creating an .iso directory in the Sendto directory, and linking the programs I want to use for that file type there. This kind of convenient association takes little space, and makes use much easier.

What I'm hoping for is a custom menu for iso files containing gtkhash, isomaster and pburn. My first try failed. Am I barking up the wrong tree?

[Jim1911]

Not compatible with DuDE, unless you install manuallly

Bad dog! Thanks for the warning.