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gray


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 07:24    Post subject:  Quirky NOP 1.2
Subject description: Nearly Office Puppy based on Quirky 1.2
 

Quirky NOP 1.2 is available at http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/NOP/

This is a 100Mb remaster of Quirky 1.2 in the tradition of previous NOP's

Nearly Office Pups are so called because office apps have been removed ready for you to tack on an SFS file of your favourite office suite (recommend Open Office).

Quirky 1.2 worked amazingly well on my recently acquired EEEPC 1001HA so I made this by;

Replace JWM/ROX with XFCE 4.6.2 / Thunar
Replace SeaMucky browser suite with Firefox 3.6.6 / Sylpheed
Remove Abiword, Gnumeric, Homebank, Ayytm, Geany
Added Transmission
Added Pwidgets 2.27
Removed Nvidia proprietary driver - if you have an Nv card you would probably want to add the full Nvidia driver anyway !

Note this is not an upgrade for previous NOP - it will need a fresh savefile.

check it out -
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nooby

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 08:57    Post subject:  

does it work in small Netbooks too? Intel graphic?

I'm downloading it now

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 10:28    Post subject:  

Thanks Gray. Totally cool. No problems installing and running on Acer Aspire 5633. Intel graphics, Dual core.
Wifi connects and sticks, printing good, display brilliant (particularly like being able to set 'hinting'), no problem creating 'save' file.
Finding a non-buggy Abiword might be a challenge Smile
Thanks for TinyMenu in Firefox. Compact Menu is always the first thing I install.

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nooby

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 11:20    Post subject:  

I ask this in two places due to them related.

Gxine in Quirky 1.0 and 1.2 works with youtube files that has been downloaded and saved as mp4 ut here in QNOP they fail to work at all.

Can one borrow the gxine from the working version to this one?

Video streaming is different on this one. It locks and work and locks and work. Looks really weird.

I chosed intel as graphics. Hope that was right.


I look to see what it says in hardware summary.
MESA Dri Intel 945

so should I have written mesa instead of intel or let it make its own choice in testing?

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James C


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 17:28    Post subject:  

Looks great and since everything is working while running live I'll be doing a frugal install in a few minutes.
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Henry

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Location: Oregon USA

PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 21:02    Post subject:  

Pleasant surprise today!

Good improvements from Nop 413r2, especially in multimedia.

Testing now, using my regular Opera 10.60 in /mnt/home/opera, outside pupsave.

Will, if actually adopted, use Thunderbird 2 for its convenience with Enigmail. No, I would not use OperaMail ! (Both it and Sylpheed use file formatsthat are cumbersome for large mail archives.

(Suppose best to simply not display unused apps like Firefox and Sylpheed with NoDisplay=true and modify defaults as needed?

Are there new files available for Vboxguestadditions.iso and
Virtualbox__.pet?

Thanks
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russoodle


Joined: 12 Sep 2008
Posts: 665
Location: Down-Under in South Oz

PostPosted: Tue 20 Jul 2010, 04:36    Post subject: Thanks, Gray  

Hi guys,

Download locations:

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/NOP/quirkyNOP-120.iso
http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/NOP/quirkyNOP-120_md5sum.txt
User: puppy
Password: linux
and
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/quirkyNOP-120.iso
0a5c83fa3331cc32ed895d1e047f740d quirkyNOP-120.iso
(thanks micko)

December 2010:
Unfortunately, Caneri's repo no longer exists, so Gray's link now results in a 404

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Henry

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jul 2010, 22:32    Post subject: BUG EDIT: Clipman can't be added
Subject description: And how about Virtual Box?
 

Xfce's clipboard manager, "clipman," is a feature that to me is indispensable in writing and computing. I use it continuously.

It is set up so only one instance can be established. If one is added to a panel the Clipman item is greyed out in Add New Items. That's how it works in Nop 431. My problem in Quirky is that I don't have one established in either panel (if so I can't find it) and it's still greyed out.

When I try to create a clipman I get this message:

"Failed to execute child process "/usr/share/xfce4/panel-plugins/clipman.desktop" (Permission denied)."

Is anyone else having a similar problem? Suggestions?

EDIT: I think this is a bug, and a pretty serious one. Checksum is OK. (I burned another iso anyway.) When I use pfix=ram and try to add Clipman to a panel the first time, it greys out, and and cannot be added.

Also I note when normally editing desktop application files I cannot copy and paste, e.g. NoDisplay=true, from one file to another.
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Also, does anyone know how to run VirtualBox here?
That's another essential for some (me, anyway)
Which, if any, .pet and Guest Additions apply?

Henry

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wayne128

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 03:45    Post subject:  

greeting everyone,

i am happy to read this, and i downloaded to try on my old laptop, it has celeron 1.3G with 640M RAM and with a old VIA Unichrome Pro on board graphic chip.
several other linux distros does not work on the video.

but this one work without me doing anything. so i am very happy.

as i m new to linux it takes me a while longer to learn. at this point i wish to access other network computer for file sharing. and i need help since i do not know how to set up ,

when i use lameSMBxplorer Samba browser, i could see
1. my Win XP computer's IP address but there is no share name,
2. another computer with share printer and two shared directories. when i double click the share name, there is a pop up windows asking domain, username and password. the problem is i did not set any name and password in the window XP and other machine so i do not know what to do at this point to access those computers.

could someone please help me point to some tutorial to get network file sharing?

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ragaman

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 05:16    Post subject:  

1. my Win XP computer's IP address but there is no share name,

Are you sure there's a shared folder in that XP computer?


2. another computer with share printer and two shared directories. when i double click the share name, there is a pop up windows asking domain, username and password. the problem is i did not set any name and password in the window XP and other machine so i do not know what to do at this point to access those computers.

domain- try typing the workgroup to which that PC belongs.
name and password- if you did not set any password on WinXP, then leave that blank.

Have you also tried pnethood?
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wayne128

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 11:40    Post subject:  

1. Yes, very sure, have been using it daily with other PC for long time.

2. OK type Workgroup and leave name/password blank, it works, thanks

thanks for suggestion on using Pnethood, i tried and with good results on some PCs but no good on others.

I summarised below and hope it is clear. it is quite a network share issue.

lets put this here, computers are XP1 , D2 , Z3, LP ( laptop with quirky)

3. XP1, D2, Z3 all can share with each others on Shared Folders.

4. XP1, D2, Z3, can ping LP but cannot see LP in Workgroup

5. on LP, Using pnethood,
LP can see XP1's Share folder , can see all files, can copy files from XP1.
LP can see Z3's Share folder , can see all files, can copy files from Z3.

But, LP can see D2's Shared folder, but when clicking Share folder, there is no files.

6. on LP, using lameSMBxplorer,
LP can see XP1's IP address, can see Server name, but cannot see Share Names
LP can see Z3's IP address, can see Share Name and can access all files.

LP can see D2's IP address, can see Server name, can see Share Name, but cannot see any file.

it appears something amiss at LP as i have not yet known how to set up network sharing,

Any clues on how to make LP Share with the rest ?
thank you
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rcrsn51


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 9198
Location: Stratford, Ontario

PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 13:32    Post subject:  

First, your Puppy machine won't automatically share its files with the Windows machines. You first need to start a server (samba, http or ftp).

I don't know why you have inconsistent results getting Puppy to see the Windows shares, but here are some manual commands you can try.

Make a local mount point with
Code:
mkdir /root/share

Look up the IP address of a Windows machine with
Code:
nmblookup pc_name

Mount its share with
Code:
mount.cifs //aaa.bbb.cc.dd/share_name /root/share -o guest

Then open your folder /root/share.
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Henry

Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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Location: Oregon USA

PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 22:57    Post subject: An old problem in a new Nop
Subject description: Pburn
 

In addition to the clipboard problem I described above, and the concern over the availability of VirtualBox, I have run into Pburn again. Still too problematic.

I have been unable to find a generally satisfactory linux CD/DVD burner for Puppy. So I continue to use the excellent DeepBurner in wine.

The combination of Barry's advances in Quirky and gray's practical approach are very attractive, so I do hope it thrives. I also hope that some here will confirm or clarify the problems I've observed. I've used Nops for years in extensive business-critical service, and hope to be able to move up to QNop eventually, having already spent considerable effort in creating its quirkysave.
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gray


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Thu 22 Jul 2010, 07:26    Post subject: Clipman
Subject description: clipman fix
 

Henry, the fix for Clipman is a simple one. It is looking for libexpat.so.0 and cannot find it. Open up a terminal in /usr/lib and link libexpat.so.0 to libexpat.so.1 i.e. ln -s libexpat.so.1 libexpat.so.0

As for Virtualbox I should have a pet for 3.2.6 uploaded soon - just testing now. Wink
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magerlab

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jul 2010, 07:35    Post subject:  

I thought opera 10.6 would be your choice, gray Smile
but FF 3.6 is also good
thanks a lot for this loooooong awaited version of NOP

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