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L18L

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Aug 2010, 12:18    Post_subject:  

Bonjour à tous
こんにちはすべて (translated by google)

with gtk20.mo in /usr/share/locale, see attached screenshot,
the translations of yes and no (and cancel and exit...)
will not be necessary.

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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sun 15 Aug 2010, 18:37    Post_subject:  

L18L wrote:
with gtk20.mo in /usr/share/locale, see attached screenshot,
the translations of yes and no (and cancel and exit...)
will not be necessary.

Oui, c'est ça.
And I know those are lacking on lupu.
The size of gtk20.mo is around 50-100kB,
and the number of languages which can display by the DejaVu font is 46...Total may comes several MB.
That is because i think these translations to be separated.
The size of main sfs should not be much larger than 100MB for 256MB RAM PC, i suppose.

How do you think?
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Aug 2010, 20:42    Post_subject:  

Installed this evening on my old laptop. Seems better then 5.1. I set tray to top and it did-no error. dual(pent?)-boot w2k, 4.3.1, 5.0.8, 5.1.0 and now QuickSet003
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esmourguit


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Aug 2010, 03:02    Post_subject:  

Bonjour à tous,
@shinobar,
I had to replace the /usr/sbin/keymap-set, with the new one to get azerty layout keyboard.
I'm working on a french language package PET.
Cordialement Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Aug 2010, 03:54    Post_subject: azerty layout keyboard issue  

esmourguit wrote:
I had to replace the /usr/sbin/keymap-set, with the new one to get azerty layout keyboard.
I'm working on a french language package PET.
Cordialement Wink

I am sorry. I forgot to update keymap-set on lupq-003.
Thanks for informing me.

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charlie6


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 00:37    Post_subject:  

Hi shinobar,
«arigatai!» for this multilanguage puppy
On lucid Puppy Quickset-003 frugall install + multilingual.sfs : It works nice with fr_BE-français locale + be-latin1 keyboard.
Just 3 questions at this time:
1. there is a lupq-003.iso downloadable from /puppy/pup4/QuickSet as also from /puppylinux/download/quickset_puppy; both size 114MB ;.... in what do they differ ?
2. If loading a browser (for instance browser=Firefox, or browser=Seamonkey), I'll get the english version. Do you think I may just untar the browser.tar.gz or the brower.tar.bz2 without adding some extra dependencies?
3. jwm menu entries appear transalted. I got a try on icewm, and there the menu entries keep to be in english.
Should one have switched to icewm before applying the multinlingual.sfs afterwards to get the icewm menu translated?

Many thanks for any answer

Cheers from Belgium, Charlie
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 05:17    Post_subject:
Sub_title: french locale using lang_pack_fr-lupq-0.1.pet 2.2M
 

Hi again shinobar!
in addition to previous post, I got a try on
- puppy quickset-003 on a live-cd session with locale unmodified (i.e. us locale and keyboard) at first;
- afterwards installed lang_pack_fr-lupq-0.1.pet (15-Aug-2010)2.2M from /puppy/pup4/QuickSet/opt ; it is smaller than the multilanguage.sfs and do not require a frugall instal !
- afterwards setup the system to fr_français-belgium + fr_BE-latin1 keyboard, restarted X and there it is: a lucid puppy with french menus [in mtpaint it is noticeable that the popup menus are all well french translated, whereas it is not in the frugall install + multilanguage.sfs (here only the menu headers like Fichier Édition Affichage...are translated) - outside any error from me].
- installed the wine pet (1.1.43 !) using quickpet + a few favourite windows applications +additionnal .dll's and registered them = run nicely ! =-).

ps:
- did not tried if icewm was translated - see that later.

I appreciate very much to get the last version of abiword running with french translated menus (it is much comfortable for intensive use even if one can manage with english) as abiword remains a tinny wordprocessor.
Would now search for abi-2.8.6-plugins (for docx reading).
Hope other non-english speaking/reading people may enjoy your multilingual-Puppy!

Many thanks again and success for that nice work!
Cheers, Charlie
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shinobar


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 11:51    Post_subject: icewm  

merci charlle6,
http://openlab.jp/puppylinux/download/quickset_puppy/ is a mirror.
As for the translations on icewm, je ne sais pas. I have never tried it yet and i have no plan to support icewm.
icewm can be removed in some future lupq. Qu'est ce que vous pansez?
How do you think?
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esmourguit


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 14:01    Post_subject:  

Bonjour à tous,
Be patient, I prepare a supplement to the French language package, including translation of Icewm and spell checking for Abiword.
Soon,
Cordialement Wink

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Tasgarth

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 16:10    Post_subject: Test lupqa004  

Hi shinobar,
TEST lupq004:
Cd-Live ( in RAM).. >:
X failed to start > xorgwizard ... > probe >1600x1200x24 > xwin
.... > OK
Country Settings :
fr_français > Europe_Paris > UTC > fr (France) > X server ...> OK
--- Menu is in French
--- Icons : us.
==> Install 'lang_pack_fr >.....
Icons : OK (fr)
-----------------
2) Save (pupsave)... rebooted.
Problem :
Only the prompt with its black screen >>
I must do "xwin" (fr keyboard) and after that it's good.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 16:33    Post_subject: test 004  

Test-frugal install of 004- 1st bug-Time does not stay upon reboot(EST).
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shinobar


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 19:54    Post_subject: Arabic and Hebrew support on lupq-004  

The Arabic and Hebrew now readable on lupq-004. Plus lang_pack_ar_he-lupq-0.1.pet available for a trial.
I am not sure on the L-toR or R-to-L issue.
Calling for your report.
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upnorth


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 21:09    Post_subject: fribidi
Sub_title: fribidi
 

Would this version enable right>left script?

./jwm-492-i18nl -v
JWM vsvn-492 by Joe Wingbermuehle
compiled options: confirm fribidi icons png shape xft xinerama xpm xrender
system configuration: /etc/system.jwmrc

the jwm in lupq is only missing fribidi, which is necessary for right>left script.
/usr/bin/jwm.lupq -v
JWM vsvn-492 by Joe Wingbermuehle
compiled options: confirm icons png shape xft xinerama xpm xrender
system configuration: /usr/etc/system.jwmrc
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Aug 2010, 22:03    Post_subject: Re: fribidi
Sub_title: fribidi
 

upnorth wrote:

./jwm-492-i18nl -v
JWM vsvn-492 by Joe Wingbermuehle
compiled options: confirm fribidi icons png shape xft xinerama xpm xrender
system configuration: /etc/system.jwmrc

the jwm in lupq is only missing fribidi, which is necessary for right>left script.
/usr/bin/jwm.lupq -v
JWM vsvn-492 by Joe Wingbermuehle
compiled options: confirm icons png shape xft xinerama xpm xrender
system configuration: /usr/etc/system.jwmrc

I realized i have forgot to replace the jwm.
Thanks to inform.
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charlie6


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Aug 2010, 02:03    Post_subject: Re: icewm
Sub_title: remove icewm ?
 

Hi shinobar
shinobar wrote:
...
icewm can be removed in some future lupq. Qu'est ce que vous pansez?
How do you think?

Since 2 years, jwm is enough to cover my needs.
What could be the size of lupq.iso if icewm is removed?
[It could be interesting for running lupq on old PC's (i.e. with low sized RAM ...for instance 128MB) ]
Cheers, Charlie
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