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lucid puppy won't shutdown
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DarinB

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Aug 2010, 19:50    Post subject:  lucid puppy won't shutdown
Subject description: lucid puppy won't shutdown
 

lucid puppy 5.1on a sony with 256mb ram
full install on a reformatted 18gb partition with a seperate 2gb linux swap
runing xorg wizard at 600x800 desktop.
will not shutdown.
i heard it may be the shutdown script. what ever that is.
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sinc


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Location: Tampa, FL USA

PostPosted: Thu 19 Aug 2010, 21:45    Post subject: Re: lucid puppy won't shutdown
Subject description: lucid puppy won't shutdown
 

where does it hang? what does it do more specifically?

here's just a guess, try adding
Code:
acpi=force
to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
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DarinB

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 03:43    Post subject:  

the screen goes black except for a bar at the bottom about 3 cm tall that is still the image of that part of the desktop then it fades to a black with a white line separating it from the rest of the the screen and sits there if I turn it off with the power button I get a bad reboot.

how do i update the grub after adding the above line?
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 04:11    Post subject:  

does a manual poweroff work?

that is
ctrl+alt+backspace
then type in poweroff and press enter

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DarinB

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 08:04    Post subject:  

Code:
acpi=force
to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Please explain how to do the above????
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 08:22    Post subject:  

How did you install puppy? Do you see a screen where you can pick from a few things when you boot up?
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DarinB

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 08:36    Post subject:  

I did a full install on hard drive as explained on
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=201565&search_id=1358540782#201565

can you explain how to do the below for a puppy newbie

Code:
acpi=force
to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 09:05    Post subject:  

Boot puppy and mount "hda1" (or wherever you installed it) by clicking on it in the bottom right.
Click the icon again to view the files in the drive. next, click on "boot", then "grub". You should see 2 files, click on "menu.lst" to open it.

Next, you will see something like this. DO NOT COPY THE EXAMPLE! IT WILL NOT WORK!
Quote:
timeout=10
default=0

title Puppy Linux 510
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.gz
boot


change that to:

Quote:
timeout=10
default=0

title Puppy Linux 510
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz acpi=force
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.gz
boot
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 09:32    Post subject:  

Vokabulary:
Filemanager ROX or rox to browse offline your files. Rox has got only a green arrow for going one directory up; unlike Win Explorer nowerdays which has arrows to browse back and forth. Rox starts opening the users folder ( another word for directory ) which usually is the administrator usually named root by default.
Editor Geany or geany to open many kinds of readable files like .htlm, .txt, .pl . Geany can not open .png, .mp3, .jpeg, .ko files for not havig MIME type support for them. Linux likes to ommit .FILETYPE many times.

You should simply use rox (often icon HOME) to click up one directory, then click the folder "boot", then click the folder "grub". There are many compiled gears/wheels and several textfiles. One of them is called "menu.lst". Left-clicking the file should open Geany. You might else start Geany (icon Editor) and click "open", then click "File System", double click "boot", "grub", "menu.lst", "open".
You also might open console
Code:
# geany /boot/grub/menu.lst &
[2] 6109
[1]   Done                    geany /boot/grub/menu.lst

6109 is the process-id of this running application.
`ps -elF` `top` `htop` console commands also reveal the pid.

Go to the kernel parameters that are already there, go to the very end of the last letter, hit spacebar and type acpi=off. Don't forget to save, close the editor, unmount ("umount -a" command) everything you can and reboot.
acpi is about *** ACPI Advanced Control and Power Interface
AF Acronym Finder is a firefox search extention.
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DarinB

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 14:52    Post subject:  

hey Noryb

it worked perfectly, thanks
now i am attempting to put lucid puppy on another partition.
Awesome I now got it working i used the same acpi = force with a lucid puppy install on the other half of the hard drive.
So far so good I can boot to lucid and it shutdown now properly....as well as puppy 431
can i move the lucid do it is the default choice in grub????
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sinc


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 15:40    Post subject:  

just change the "default" option in menu.lst. the strange thing here is that grub starts counting at zero. so your first operating system is default 0 your next is default 1, etc...
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DarinB

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 16:15    Post subject:  

how do i set the default in menu.list
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 16:53    Post subject:  

Your menu.lst will look somewhat like this:

Quote:
timeout=10
default=0

title Puppy Linux 431
kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz acpi=force
initrd (hd0,1)/initrd.gz
boot

title Puppy Linux 510
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz acpi=force
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.gz
boot


I bolded a few parts where you need.

Count how many entries is before the title Puppy Linux 510 line, then change the default=(something) line to default=(number before title Puppy Linux 510) (no quotes).

In the example above, there is only 1 title line (title Puppy Linux 431) in front of the title Puppy Linux 510 line, so you would change the default=0 to default=1.

Quote:
timeout=10
default=1

title Puppy Linux 431
kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz acpi=force
initrd (hd0,1)/initrd.gz
boot

title Puppy Linux 510
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz acpi=force
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.gz
boot
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jan 2013, 09:11    Post subject:  

Reading this I think "ohh what a friendly forum this is". Thank you.

Mikkel
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