Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

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rjbrewer · #2061 Post by **rjbrewer** » Fri 20 Aug 2010, 05:30

playdayz;

I can't find Kansas in "Locales".
There wouldn't be a land of OZ without us.

chrismt · #2062 Post by **chrismt** » Fri 20 Aug 2010, 10:08

I wish the next Puppy will have a network and desktop restore option, mostly for a newbie, the desktop and network are the two things that he will mess up trying to install and unistall pets

And I wish Puppy websites and links are banned in North Korea and Iran

There are certain international rules, since I don't know where Puppy has its HQ, I am not sure about Australian rules on Iran and countries like North Korea

Is Puppy Linux banned or something?

Stripe · #2063 Post by **Stripe** » Fri 20 Aug 2010, 18:06

Hey playdayz

Downloaded and ran the "iron" browser from a link in one of your posts, seemed to install ok but nothing happened when clicked on the start menu icon. (the old 800mhz amd box)

still no problems with the latest Ayttm using msn.

any ideas to ammend the flashplayer processes? as that is the only problem wth using the old box (the ammount of cpu usage that flashplayer needs) I just need it to transfer/convert the file to temp as an flv and not to play it.

Installed 4.3.1 on the old box today, to compare it and for what I use the computer for. 510 is a great improvement, both in useability and its ability to perform specific tasks.

Cheers
Stripe

playdayz · #2064 Post by **playdayz** » Fri 20 Aug 2010, 22:09

There is a testing release for Lupu-511 posted -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58978

rjbrewer · #2065 Post by **rjbrewer** » Fri 20 Aug 2010, 22:26

Stripe wrote:Hey playdayz

Downloaded and ran the "iron" browser from a link in one of your posts, seemed to install ok but nothing happened when clicked on the start menu icon. (the old 800mhz amd box)

still no problems with the latest Ayttm using msn.

any ideas to ammend the flashplayer processes? as that is the only problem wth using the old box (the ammount of cpu usage that flashplayer needs) I just need it to transfer/convert the file to temp as an flv and not to play it.

Installed 4.3.1 on the old box today, to compare it and for what I use the computer for. 510 is a great improvement, both in useability and its ability to perform specific tasks.

Cheers
Stripe

Maybe this link will interest you.
About to try it on my 800mhz latop.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 789#443789

playdayz · #2066 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 00:40

Downloaded and ran the "iron" browser from a link in one of your posts, seemed to install ok but nothing happened when clicked on the start menu icon. (the old 800mhz amd box)

What does it say if you open a terminal and enter 'iron'?

playdayz · #2067 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 00:46

in about a week we could use one or more people with a fast broadband connection and about 10GB free disk space (in Linux) to have a go at building 5.1.1 from scratch with Woof, to make sure that the process is working correctly before we release it. You would be looking at an hour or so of downloading on a 6MB connection and several hours of processing. I will provide some instructions--we are trying to make the process as smooth as possible. Thanks.

playdayz · #2068 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 00:49

Maybe this link will interest you.
About to try it on my 800mhz latop.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 789#443789

I saw that earlier today rj. You had a big part in making it what it is. Thanks for both. Another thing I noticed is that there is some really good writing in that whole thread--witty and fun to read.

playdayz · #2069 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 00:58

Stripe suggested the other day that seamonkey might be a good browser to build in. I meant to answer and say that it would, but we were committed strongly to the Choose a Browser concept. However, with Netsurf not really filling the bill right now, unless it's developers want to work with us, we need a browser built in that will run Help and Cups. But we also want Browser Choice. So what if we have a default browser but we still give people the choice right up front--and then to avoid wasting space we delete the original--oh, but there would still be extra space in the iso--well, back to the drawing board. And, it wouldn't reallys ave any space to delete the original.

Maybe we should see which one has the smallest footprint on the iso...

Opera 10.6x is out because it does not run properly with jwm
Iron would be out if it does not run on some processors.

kevin bowers · #2070 Post by **kevin bowers** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 01:32

Just a quick point--Hotmail will no longer work with Seamonkey. Or it will let you access your e-mail only as text, no pics, nearly all links blocked. Firefox works with it, haven't tried anything else.

playdayz · #2071 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 01:44

Just a quick point--Hotmail will no longer work with Seamonkey

Weird. Why would that be? I guess I don't understand the politics.

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Is it time for the return of PuppyBrowser, MU's awesome creation? I am using it now in luci-217. It measure 8.5MB *and* includes Composer! It can be updated to 1.1.19, but not to 2+ afaik.

Stripe · #2072 Post by **Stripe** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 03:54

Hi Playdayz

Browser wise I would always go for firefox personaly because of its add ons, but after using my old box for a week, as long as a browser does what is required to do, is light enough on resources (to be run as a live CD or for people with older hardware) and has a small footprint for the overall distro size, I dont think it matters what it is, as everybody has their own favourites and as long as they are caterd for in the PPM they can always change it to suit their own needs.

Hope this helps
Stripe

DaveS · #2073 Post by **DaveS** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 05:29

After a few days of using:
I TOTALLY LOVE THIS PUPPY
More to come after a bit more use.
At last, Puppy is back on track.........

A HUGE thanks to all involved. This gargantuan effort has paid off in Spades...................

rjbrewer · #2074 Post by **rjbrewer** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 06:34

I'm always amazed how fast this 134mb iso Puppy is, even compared
to much smaller 4.xx Puppies.

Installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and a few older pets on my full install.
Borrowed a few files from Fluppy Pupremaster (based on Dougals remaster script) and created a new iso. The 500mb uncompressed full install became a 187mb iso file.

Used "bootflash" and "burn iso to cd" and both ended up perfect clones of the full install. (all settings saved)

Booted the 187mb cd into Inspiron 4000, 800mhz with just 128mb ram.
Booted slowly but steadily.
Made a 256mb swap part. and did a full install. (slowly)

It runs very well;
A youtube download of Lady Gaga's Bad Romance looks and
runs great at almost full screen.

CatDude · #2075 Post by **CatDude** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 13:30

Hi

kevin bowers wrote:Just a quick point--Hotmail will no longer work with Seamonkey. Or it will let you access your e-mail only as text, no pics, nearly all links blocked.

Try this:
In the Seamonkey address bar, enter the following: about:config and press Enter
Click on the I'll be careful, I promise button.

In the Filter bar, enter useragent and you should see four results,
on the one that reads general.useragent.extra.seamonkey
depending on your version of Seamonkey it will have a value something like this: SeaMonkey/2.0.6

Double click on that value, and in the window that appears, change the value to this: SeaMonkey/2.0.6; Firefox/3.6.8
In other words, just add the ; Firefox/3.6.8 after whatever version is already there.

Close then restart Seamonkey, then go and visit hotmail, and see if it is any better.

CatDude
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kevin bowers · #2076 Post by **kevin bowers** » Sat 21 Aug 2010, 20:10

CatDude,

You're awesome! Simply fooling Hotmail into thinking you have the browser they want! Cool trick, thanks! I wonder if it'll work on my older boxes with Puppy 301 installed?

Edit: yes it does, at least back to Seamonkey 112. Gotta love it!

CatDude · #2077 Post by **CatDude** » Sun 22 Aug 2010, 14:36

Hi

kevin bowers wrote:You're awesome! Simply fooling Hotmail into thinking you have the browser they want! Cool trick, thanks!

I am glad that you found it useful,
unfortunately i discovered something that i was not keen on.

After making the change as outlined in my earlier post, hotmail was fine,
but when i went to do a google image search things where not as they normally are.

So i decided to undo the change and install this instead: User Agent Switcher

If you want to, you can get a more up to date list from this page
look for the line:
Direct download of user agent xml file

It is now just a case of switching the User Agent when i need to access hotmail (or any other stupid site

),
then switching back to the default User Agent when done.

CatDude
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edoc · #2078 Post by **edoc** » Sun 22 Aug 2010, 15:42

Using http://startpage.com (I don't use google) I came upon a couple of discussions of Undelete methods, so far this seems the most user-friendly:
http://amadeus.uprm.edu/~undelete/u_friend.html

Is this available for Lucid 5.1?

timremy · #2079 Post by **timremy** » Mon 23 Aug 2010, 23:12

hello anyone

i installed lucid 5.10 on a dvd and it went ok. it worked.

then i thought i would try a usb. i went to the universal

installer and selected usb and followed the prompts like

i did with other distros. when i tried to run from the usb stick,

i get a message like not bootable.

is there a special way to run from a usb stick or can

someone show me where i went wrong??

thank you

timremy

rcrsn51 · #2080 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 23 Aug 2010, 23:49

Read here.

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Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

Browsers

Seamonkey and Hotmail

Re: Seamonkey and Hotmail

Undelete?

usb install