Lucid Puppy 5.1.1 Release - This is the official release

[01micko]

Barry did compile a tiny version of SM somewhere, less than 10MB compressed... http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ial-q1.pet.. and a special DEV file.

[playdayz]

Tasgarth, The CCE was present as an option on the first run dialog wasn't it?

No it wasn't:
1) Live-CD > ... OK with CEE and QP etc...> Full Install (icon on the desktop) > .... > OK but
First screen was right without any CEE.

There was no first run dialog on the first boot of the full install--do I have it now?

[01micko]

This just removed my network tray icon in my IceWm

How do I bring it back?

You didn't get the new tray icon? Strange. If you have an issue just uninstall the pet

[rjbrewer]

The options screen appeared for me on live cd boot; then was
covered by Netsmurf welcome screen after a few seconds.
Killed the smurf!
Used classic config to set resolution.

Frugal install with just 128mb ram automatically created a 100mb
swap file on 2nd reboot.
That basically made it the equal of my full install without swap.
Takes about 15 seconds longer for a frugal to boot.

The 1.1.18-p4.pet seamonkey I use is 11mb in size.
It has better font legibility and size than any of these new browsers.
It;s simple.....no freakin sidebar that I can't seem to get rid of.
It will enable mms and rtsp streams that the new ones don't.

[bigpup]

You can get different versions of Seamonkey here.
http://www.lamarelle.org/mo-zi-lla/mozilla.php#smf

[Stripe]

Hi

Just installed seamonkey1-1.1.18-special-q1 no problem seems to work great,
Listing missing shared libraries: libsoftokn3.so libxpcom_compat.so

Hope this helps
Stripe

[01micko]

You can get different versions of Seamonkey here.
http://www.lamarelle.org/mo-zi-lla/mozilla.php#smf

Good one bigpup, I forgot about Phillipe's builds, the i386 sm 1.1.19 build (browser only) is only 9MB compressed, and statically built so should not need deps.

Cheers

[pemasu]

Luci217 frugal install. I have played with acpitool to get laptop sleep, it works even with my faulty ACPI/BIOS. And tried to use rfkill but kernel does not support it. Well... I will need kernel recompiling for working acpi so rfkill will be fixed at the same time.

From Fluppy004 I found Xbindkeys-config app suggested by jemimah. It is brilliant tool to bind keys to executable commands. I got sleep and hibernate buttons to work in Fluppy and sleep button to work in Luci217. Basically switching off power consuming devices when needed is my main aim.

I made pet package from lucid repo xbindkeys, xbindkeys-config and dependencies which I thought will be needed. It has also pinstall.sh which creates basic .xbindkeysrc file.

[James C]

ok.. time to be "not so serious"... (it is the week end after all )

I made an iconset for the new blinky.. (er.. network_tray to be more "official" ).. if you recall there's an alternate set for this blinky in the main thread (approaching 140 pages )

Try if you want, should uninstall ok.

Cheers

Finally got around to installing........survived changing window managers a couple of times and a reboot.Still working.

[01micko]

--> The everlasting issue that the exec-button in geany is still there. The answer is also still the same: 'term_cmd=/usr/X11R7/bin/xterm -e bash -c' in /root/.config/geany.conf

In this latest version just /usr/bin/xterm -e bash -c is needed

gtkdialog scripts will benefit of that. (Fullscreen, do not show in tray, on top, ...) Some of my scripts already uses classes as they are defined in Stardust (DuDE). This is what is added in my /root/.jwmrc:

I think so, with the addition of gtkdialog-splash class (goes in the XDG template)

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<Group>
<Class>fullscreen</Class>
<Option>layer:12</Option>
<Option>noborder</Option>
<Option>notitle</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<Option>maximized</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>applet</Class>
<Option>layer:1</Option>
<Option>noborder</Option>
<Option>notitle</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<!-- above other apps, but below main tray -->
<Class>ontop</Class>
<Option>layer:7</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>maximized</Class>
<Option>maximized</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>nolist</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>noborder</Class>
<Option>noborder</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>notitle</Class>
<Option>notitle</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>sticky</Class>
<Option>sticky</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>gtkdialog-splasht</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>

Also, we need to clean up the /root/.jwmrc_tray file for the tray apps, comment or delete blinky, freememapplet-shell and absvolume.

[01micko]

01micko, was that in delayed run that you patched so that first run would run in full install--if so I guess we will pick it up when we use your new delayed run.

No, it's a file in /root/Startup that self destructs once installation has occured

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#!/bin/sh

. /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE #get pupmode

[[ $PUPMODE -gt 5 ]]&& rm -f /$HOME/Startup/fullstart #delete if we are not in live session or full

if [[ $PUPMODE != 2 ]];then exit
	else sed -i 's/"5"/"2"/' /usr/bin/first-run.sh  #change first-run wizard to work in full install
	first-run.sh &
	rm -f /$HOME/Startup/fullstart  #this file self destructs after first run
fi

it's called "fullstart".

Barry is going to make the changes for delayedrun in next woof with some modifications, but it will suit our needs,

Cheers

[Lobster]

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# grub-install -v
grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)

Is that right?
That is very old
Would it offer any insight into this problem, which I have also experienced
not in 5.11 though
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59012

[playdayz]

You can get different versions of Seamonkey here.
http://www.lamarelle.org/mo-zi-lla/mozilla.php#smf

Good one bigpup, I forgot about Phillipe's builds, the i386 sm 1.1.19 build (browser only) is only 9MB compressed, and statically built so should not need deps.

If Netsurf is not interested in working with us, then we would have several options.
1. I have the PuppyBrowser from 5.0 which is 8.5MB (using SM 1.1.18) Browser only. I am partial to the legacy of PuppyBrowser--and security is not a factor in an internal browser. I also like the branding--PuppyBrowser is a Puppy thing. We could still have the Browser Chooser on first call to the Browser--though the user could choose PuppyBrowser--much more capable than Netsurf (bigger too of course). The iso is 135MB--maybe we could shave 1 or 2. 133MB has been what i hoped was the top limit.

2. The build by phillipe--could also possibly be combined with Puppy browser.

3. A full Seamonkey 2.06--is only 13Mb compressed. It does seem that as stripe said Seamonkey seems to have the best compatibility.

I knew there was part of Cups that Netsurf did not run correclty, but no one was complaining--but it does not run the Help correclty and I am starting to think that Help is actually pretty cool.

[bigpup]

You can get different versions of Seamonkey here.
http://www.lamarelle.org/mo-zi-lla/mozilla.php#smf

Good one bigpup, I forgot about Phillipe's builds, the i386 sm 1.1.19 build (browser only) is only 9MB compressed, and statically built so should not need deps.

3. A full Seamonkey 2.06--is only 13Mb compressed. It does seem that as stripe said Seamonkey seems to have the best compatibility.

I knew there was part of Cups that Netsurf did not run correclty, but no one was complaining--but it does not run the Help correclty and I am starting to think that Help is actually pretty cool.

There is a Seamonkey 2.06 (browser only) 11Mb at Phillipe's site.

[Stripe]

Hi all

I have the PuppyBrowser from 5.0 which is 8.5MB (using SM 1.1.18) Browser only. I am partial to the legacy of PuppyBrowser--and security is not a factor in an internal browser. I also like the branding--PuppyBrowser is a Puppy thing.

Why not try puppybrowser in the next test release and see how it goes? (if that is not too much of a big job) or post a link to it so people can try it and give you some feedback?

hope that helps
Stripe

[James C]

Some multimedia testing ........installed VLC from Quickpet and been playing ogg,mp3,mp4 and wmv files for a while. Working great.

Gnome MPlayer plays them all too.Two pretty solid players.

[Stripe]

Sorry all, my mistake
The cups problem is the netsurf browser, what confused me was that up to 510 cups was opened in the default browser (whatever that was, firefox etc) which is why not many people had the problem but now in 217 it opens with netsurf all the time no matter what the default browser is. have opened cups in 217 with firefox (http://localhost:631) and cups works fine.
sorry for getting it wrong.
Stripe

[playdayz]

The cups problem is the netsurf browser, what confused me was that up to 510 cups was opened in the default browser (whatever that was, firefox etc) which is why not many people had the problem but now in 217 it opens with netsurf all the time no matter what the default browser is.

That was my fault--not intentional.

[playdayz]

Also, there is a xulrunner 1.9--it is possible someone could write a new PuppyBrowser. MU wrote one for 1.8 xulrunner that was only 7.5MB.

[Stripe]

Hi Playdayz
have just set seamonkey1-1.1.18-special-q1 as default for help and cups printer wizard and it works fine, will try some of your other recomendations
Stripe