A Beginner's Guide to Installing Puppy

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#81 Post by PeacebyJesus »

In case another person like me looks here due to a no-Windows-Puppy install not working, when you run the installer use the option to format the Windows NTFS drive first to ext2 or ext3, then use the full install.
Last edited by PeacebyJesus on Sat 03 Jul 2010, 12:21, edited 2 times in total.

xstation
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gparted

#82 Post by xstation »

Please tell how to install useing gparted
there is a root partition
ok i need to know the basic layout

thankyou

xstation :D

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#83 Post by computer123 »

A frugal install just copies the three files from the CD to your hard drive as they are. Each method has its own advantages, which we won't discuss now. For beginners, a frugal install is easiest - simply because it duplicates the way that the Live CD works. (A more detailed comparison of full versus frugal is provided at the end of the article.)

How can i do this? I DONT WANT TO LOSE ANY FILES AFTER I RESTART MY COMPUTER. PLEASE HELP ME HERE.

I just want the computer to start and load puppy, i dont want go though installation again and again :cry: and lose everything.

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#84 Post by maxpro4u »

Don't use a cd-use a usb drive-eveything will be saved then-when you shut down-it will ask "do you want to create a pupsave file?"

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#85 Post by computer123 »

t seems that i may have fixed the problem. On my way shut down, i clicked saved file so it saved all my previous work i did before shutting off. I would like to change my default browser, this puppy version of mozzila firefox doesn't have the book mark way was on regular firefox. Although i can't do it becuase i click on earth icon(browse) and it doesn't ask me to change my browse, it just opens puppy one

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#86 Post by maxpro4u »

right-click on the browse icon file/open as text, change to
#!/bin/sh
exec firefox "$@"

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#87 Post by Dawn »

I expected the installation of "Lucid Puppy" to be something like my experience with Ubuntu and Debian. With those previous linux distributions after I ran the installation from a CD, I could remove the CD and reboot.

This was not the case with Lucid Puppy. After I ran (what I thought was) the installation, it seemed that the whole Operating System was in RAM and when I rebooted I found that the previous installed OS on the hard drive came up.

The next thing I did was this. After I installed Lucid Puppy, I ran a suggested setup routine which seemed to be successful. The final screen said this:

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GRUB INSTALL SUCCESS
==================
GRUB was successfully installed on the MBR of
/dev/sda.  You should check and edit the
'/boot/grub/menu.lst' file on 'dev/sda1', if
needed.  You may want to change the
location 'boot/umlinuz', and/or options
passed to any Linux kernal listed there.
What should I do and how do I do it?

Now when I reboot I get a blue menu that looks like this:

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Linux (on /dev/sda1)
Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/sda1)
-  For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
-  For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt
At the bottm of the screen there are suggestions how to edit files. Unix and Linux is new to me. I hope I can get some direction here with better experienced people.

I would think that installing any software would cause that installation to be placed on the users hard drive. I would expect that that would be the defaut option and doing otherwise might be diffiicult or impossible.

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#88 Post by rcrsn51 »

You may have better luck with the install method discussed here.

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#89 Post by happy37 »

Hello everyone.....

First post here....am a complete novice and first time user with Puppy Linux, so would appreciate some advice. :?:

To start with, I am trying to install and use Puppy Linux on a CD or USB stick so that I can use the program to flash my Netgear router with some custom firmware.

I have tried to do the steps below - I have burnt a copy of the .iso file of Puppy to a CD and then booted the PC from the disc.

The CD booted up into Puppy immediately, but there was an option to press F2 - should I have pressed this to get more options or not?

I then let Puppy do its thing, and it scanned the PC for the connected USB Corsair Voyager flash drive for the files for the firmware flash. When this was done, the screen then came up with a list of white lines on a black screen scrolling down the page. Once this finished, the screen went blank, and then I waited for the next screen to appear. Nothing happened..........

AFAIK, both of my PCs cannot or do not have the options to boot from a USB stick, so can I get Puppy to boot from a CD and flash the firmware in that manner instead?

Should the firmware flash files have been on the CD as well as the Puppy distro? - if yes, then how do I configure Puppy ton install from the CD and also add the firmware flash files on there at the same time?

If this cannot be achieved, then would it be easier for me to use WakePup/WakePup2 instead and the floppy drive method?

So, what have I done wrong, or not done, or can do differently to make this work, please?

Thanks in advance for any comments and advice. :)

Regards

happy37

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#90 Post by cthisbear »

Welcome to Puppy happy37.

Priorities in any forum.

Your PCs hardware.
You have two >> list them both.

Your Puppy version ... is it

Puppy 4.3.1
Lucid Puppy 5....must give us the particular one
as many Lucid Pups have been uploaded.

Do not boot with the USB in.
When you come to the desktop you can pop it in
when Puppy finishes booting.

Here is a quick How to 4 Puppy 4.3.1

http://help.artaro.eu/index.php/windows ... vista.htmll

from here.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57969

Read the first one...shows Puppy boot pics.
And get back to us.

Make sure that your file size was downloaded correctly.

Image burn is here...4 Windows
Small >> no setup >> do not update.
Never burn faster than 32 Speed.

ISO Burners –Windows.

I do not burn ISO files faster than 32 Speed.
For really old computers even slower

ImgBurn..ready to go…no install…do not update

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-b558b1b9.html

http://www.imgburn.com

File: ImgBurn.exe Size: 1.53 MB

Plus>>>

BurnCDCC...small..fast…69kb zip

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/burncdcc.zip

Goodluck...Chris.

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#91 Post by happy37 »

Hi Chris

Many thanks for your reply and for the welcome to the forum.

Here goes:-

PC1 - ASUS P4PE motherboard with circa 10/2002 BIOS.

http://support.asus.com/download/downlo ... lname=P4PE

Windows XP SP3, 2GB RAM, Liteon DVD-ROM drive and a Sony DVD rewriter, 256MB PNY NVIDIA GE-Force AGP 8x graphics card, onboard SoundMax audio. 2 of Western Digital PATA HDDs, 320GB each.

PC2 - VIA P4V88 motherboard with 2005 BIOS - version 1.80.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=p4v88

Windows 7 Pro, 2GB RAM, Liteon DVD-ROM drive and a Sony DVD rewriter, 256MB PNY NVIDIA GE-Force AGP 8x graphics card, Creative soundcard, 2 of Western Digital PATA HDDs, 160 and 200GB each.

I hope this helps - please let me know if you need any more info.

I am using Puppy version 4.3.1.

Have already got the CD burning software(s), such as Nero 9 and ImgBurn.
Do not boot with the USB in. When you come to the desktop you can pop it in when Puppy finishes booting.
As you can see from my post above, I have tried to run from the CD with Puppy 4.31 burnt to it, but it gets as far as the "Puppy Linux loading essential files, please stand by...", and then the screen goes blank?

Are you able to advise from here onwards please?

Many thanks.

happy37

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#92 Post by happy37 »

Chris et al,

Further to my previous message from 08.44 earlier today, I can now confirm, that having followed your instructions to the letter, I can now boot into Puppy Linux from my 1st PC.

So, having done this, I get the Xorg desktop on my screen with all of the icons. Next, I tried to mount the USB Key inside Puppy and that came up too with a green circle next to it, and I was able to access the files on the key.

So, this is the important bit for me - where to next?

Do I now just follow the tutorial as given over at the DGTeam website to try and see if I can flash the firmware onto my router?

Website link:-

http://dgteam.netsons.org/index.php?pid=16

Under the section headed:-

"NFTP Command Line Utility (Unix systems)"

Point number 16 onwards - so, do I just start following this tutorial to the letter to try and flash the router, or is there anything else that needs doing inside Puppy Linux before I go ahead and think of doing this?

I would be very, very grateful of any pointers that would now help me to proceed in the right direction from here onwards.

Many thanks for all of the help and advice so far...it's much appreciated.

Regards

happy37

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#93 Post by RetroTechGuy »

happy37 wrote:Hi Chris

Many thanks for your reply and for the welcome to the forum.

Here goes:-

PC1 - ASUS P4PE motherboard with circa 10/2002 BIOS.

http://support.asus.com/download/downlo ... lname=P4PE

Windows XP SP3, 2GB RAM, Liteon DVD-ROM drive and a Sony DVD rewriter, 256MB PNY NVIDIA GE-Force AGP 8x graphics card, onboard SoundMax audio. 2 of Western Digital PATA HDDs, 320GB each.

PC2 - VIA P4V88 motherboard with 2005 BIOS - version 1.80.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=p4v88

Windows 7 Pro, 2GB RAM, Liteon DVD-ROM drive and a Sony DVD rewriter, 256MB PNY NVIDIA GE-Force AGP 8x graphics card, Creative soundcard, 2 of Western Digital PATA HDDs, 160 and 200GB each.

I hope this helps - please let me know if you need any more info.

I am using Puppy version 4.3.1.

Have already got the CD burning software(s), such as Nero 9 and ImgBurn.
Do not boot with the USB in. When you come to the desktop you can pop it in when Puppy finishes booting.
As you can see from my post above, I have tried to run from the CD with Puppy 4.31 burnt to it, but it gets as far as the "Puppy Linux loading essential files, please stand by...", and then the screen goes blank?

Are you able to advise from here onwards please?

Many thanks.

happy37
It's possible that you may need to try a Puppy Retro version for your hardware...

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... l-puppies/

For example:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... modems.iso

(I can run this latter one on an old 333MHz Compaq laptop...)

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#94 Post by RetroTechGuy »

happy37 wrote:Chris et al,

Further to my previous message from 08.44 earlier today, I can now confirm, that having followed your instructions to the letter, I can now boot into Puppy Linux from my 1st PC.

So, having done this, I get the Xorg desktop on my screen with all of the icons. Next, I tried to mount the USB Key inside Puppy and that came up too with a green circle next to it, and I was able to access the files on the key.

So, this is the important bit for me - where to next?

Do I now just follow the tutorial as given over at the DGTeam website to try and see if I can flash the firmware onto my router?

Website link:-

http://dgteam.netsons.org/index.php?pid=16

Under the section headed:-

"NFTP Command Line Utility (Unix systems)"

Point number 16 onwards - so, do I just start following this tutorial to the letter to try and flash the router, or is there anything else that needs doing inside Puppy Linux before I go ahead and think of doing this?

I would be very, very grateful of any pointers that would now help me to proceed in the right direction from here onwards.

Many thanks for all of the help and advice so far...it's much appreciated.

Regards

happy37
OK, the basic rule in Puppy is that you are always "superuser" (e.g. "root").

Your console is "rxvt". Your default location for the command window will be "/root/" (open the window and type "pwd" == "print working directory").

If you saved a pupsave to the flash drive, the flash drive is "/mnt/home/". If you unpacked directly onto the flash drive, your program will be there -- otherwise it's likely to be under the "/root/" folder.

Be aware (apparent from reading their page) that if you experience a power hiccup while performing this flash, that you may well "brick" the router. If you have a UPS, it would be worth putting both the computer and the router on the UPS.

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Thank you

#95 Post by rdatlinux »

I am from Kerala India.
I convey my heartfelt regards for creating and supporting such a wonderful OS. I have an AMD 2400+ with 1GB Ram and my hard disk failed. Then I found Puppy.(4.3.1) It solved all my problems since I am ablee to use my 1 GB pen drive and use the PC for all my needs.

Thank you all great persons for this.
Will post more details later.

RD,

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#96 Post by cthisbear »

rdatlinux:

Welcome to Puppy.

"My hard disk failed."

Have you tried booting Puppy and mounting your
drive after it boots by placing it in an External USB
hard drive case.
You might get lucky and retrieve any data off it.
No guarantees.

Chris.

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Cant install Puppy

#97 Post by manoftao »

Hi. I have a fairly old laptop: HP Omnibook XE2 PII 400 Mhz, 192 mb ram 6 GB HDD which Im trying to install Puppy on but keep getting stuck at xorgwizard – which seems to have trouble finding the right video driver/resolution. Tried all options, Detect, Choose, Vesa, keeps going back to xorgwizard suggestion. xwin leads to blank screen.. I managed to boot up Knoppix live cd on it but for a HDD install, DSL or Puppy both get stuck during hardware recognition. Any help would be great. Laptop has mini xp on it which only takes 350 Mb space. Cheers.

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#98 Post by ICPUG »

manoftao

Welcome to the forum and Puppyland.

It might be better to start a separate thread with this problem as it appears more general than an installation problem. It looks like a video/booting problem.

Please identify which version of Puppy you were trying (and incidently which version of Knoppix you got working). As you think it may be a video problem please tell us what video system you PC has fitted - Intel (type if poss 855, 945, ...), ATI, Nvidia, other.

Do you get the problem with the LIVE CD or only with your attempted installation? What type of installation are you trying full or frugal and are you trying to dual boot with your XP? If it is an installation what have you put in your menu.lst?

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#99 Post by manoftao »

@ ICPUG...
Thanks for the reply. I downloaded the intel-scsi-modem iso of Puppy and X miraculously went past the hiccup I experienced with the other LUPU.iso. The very same xorg menu. It installed well on sd1 but struggling to connect to Internet via wireless esb dongle which finds my network but does not connect. I'll keep looking and learning. Linux is great and fun, but brain-busting when tweaking required.. To a novice like me that is.. Cheers.

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#100 Post by ICPUG »

OK manoftao.

That scsi-intel-modem iso is based on puppy 4.3.1 which will give you less trouble with the video drivers.

The latest series 5 puppies, because of the use of later intel drivers and a more recent linux kernel mean some tweaks have to be made. Lucid Puppy 5.1 should boot to the desktop though!

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