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DaveS


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 16:58    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Tried to set Flsynclient..... Synaptics not found!
Re-booted creating save file. Tried Flsynclient again... Synaptics not found.
Deleted save file, re-booted using classic configuration system. All no problem INCLUDING successful Synaptics install.

You know, we have had a report that synaptics only worked when automatically configured not when configured with CCE. As far as I am concerned it is all one system and we have two methods of configuring--if one does not work correctly then there is a chance the other will. It sounds like you are able to configure your hardware and use Lucid Puppy. Good deal.


Agreed. And it works the best yet. I actually deleted my 'fall back' Mint today. Never use it now Smile

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 16:58    Post subject:  

I use always CCE. Synaptics and flsynclient has worked flawlessly so far ad luci220.
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shinobar


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 17:14    Post subject: Re: synclient-wrapper  

DaveS wrote:
shinobar wrote:
DaveS wrote:
Tried to set Flsynclient..... Synaptics not found!
Re-booted creating save file. Tried Flsynclient again... Synaptics not found.
Deleted save file, re-booted using classic configuration system. All no problem INCLUDING successful Synaptics install..

The Synaptics touchpad works from the first desktop, but the flsynclient fails.
I made a wrapper script which can be a solution.
Try this.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=444668#444668


OK... fresh frugal install, no save file. Booted to desktop. Installed wrapper script. Attempted flsynclient.... Synaptics found, must restart X to use it. Attempted restart X, fail. Ran Xorg wizard... fail.
Hmmm....
Reboot, use classic configuration procedure, all fine.

Sorry, it was not tested on Lupu. Try the revised if you still have an interest.

EDIT: 1 Oct 2010
synclient-wrapper-20100901.pet had a typo and loose settings after restart X.
/root/Startup/load-touchpad-settings.sh at line 2
Code:
[ -s "$HOME/.flsynclient" ] || exit

Correct:
Code:
[ -s "$HOME/.flSynclient" ] || exit


Fixed in synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet.
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 17:57    Post subject:  

Time to go to sleep. Streaming wirelessly using pulseaudio and stream2ip is possible. Not even sure how I got python working. What I am sure is...I dont really know how I did it anymore. But here it is.

Streaming wirelessly to Apple Airport Express using pulseaudio and stream2ip. Stream2ip informs that it does not find device but I can hear right now that it find it musically.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 18:08    Post subject:  

There is a kind of interesting design approach in Lupu that is somewhat unique. It is illustrated in the first run configuration that we were just talking about. There really are two distinct methods involved. The "auto config" is courtesy of the current Xorg (which has had auto config since 7.3). The other method is the one Barry designed and refined. Both are good methods, and because we have them both available we have the chance to solve problems that neither would solve alone. That gives a robustness, when there is a secondary method available.

We have a similar situation with the mediaplayer: if gnome-mplayer is doing something wrong, then try Smplayer, and then VLC. For audio, gnome-mplayer is backed up by Pmusic, with Audacious in the PPM. And a final instance is with printing pdf's. If you choose Print in Abiword you will see "Cups-Pdf" and "pdf_writer." Each works in some circumstances and by including them both we are able to cover more circumstances that either alone. "pdf_writer" works best with Abiword and "Cups-Pdf" works best with epdfview.

Would it be better to have one perfect application for every task? Yes. I guess. The reason we can afford to do it this way is that Puppy uses lean applications--so we can back up one lean application with another, and still not gain too much weight. The goal with Lucid puppy is something like it bends but it doesn't break. Even if it takes a little fiddling people will be able to do what it is they want to do and use Lucid Puppy in a variety of ways. For instance, one of my particular needs--playing multiple sound cards--I have had to go all the way to Audacious, but it does just what I need and I am using Lucid puppy in the way I want to use it..

(Just a little rambling theory for fun)
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 21:08    Post subject:  

The frugal install of Luci 222 on the P3 is still working fine.......nothing bad to report........ Smile

Installed a number of pets and no problems yet.
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 21:28    Post subject:  

Shinobars' synclient-wrapper worked on Inspiron 700m.
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug 2010, 22:28    Post subject: Lucid Puppy 5.1.1 Beta Testing and Development
Subject description: revo flash drive install
 

Booted 222 live cd with pfix=ram on Eeepc 701
Used gparted to create a primary ext3 partition on 8gb flash drive and set boot flag.
Used universal installer to install 222 to the flash drive and exited 222.
Moved flash drive to Acer Revo Nettop booted from the flash drive.
222 booted directly to the desktop at correct resolution and detected wireless keyboard and mouse, the wired network was also connected.
The Lupu Recommends box was empty ( nvidia ion not there)
Downloaded latest nvidia driver with quickpet and did the install thing (black bar at top of screen).
# glxgears
8086 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1617.200 FPS
9394 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1878.800 FPS
10161 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2032.200 FPS
10145 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2029.000 FPS
10180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2036.000 FPS
10157 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2031.400 FPS
10169 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2033.800 FPS
10141 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2028.200 FPS
#
Computer
Processor
4x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Memory
1814MB (142MB used)
Operating System
Puppy Linux 0.22
User Name
root (root)
Date/Time
Tue 31 Aug 2010 09:15:04 PM GMT-8
Display
Resolution
1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer
ION/PCI/SSE2
X11 Vendor
The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter
HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter
USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d
Input Devices
Chicony 2.4G Multimedia Wireless Kit

Chicony 2.4G Multimedia Wireless Kit

UVC Camera (046d:08c5)

OpenGL
Vendor
NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer
ION/PCI/SSE2
Version
3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.35
Direct Rendering
Yes

Did setup wizards, and downloaded Firefox 4 beta3,googleearth,and vlc.
Rebooted to create save file.
Yay, it all works!
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep 2010, 00:58    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
There is a kind of interesting design approach in Lupu that is somewhat unique.

(Just a little rambling theory for fun)
.


I'm not sure serendipity qualifies as a "design approach". Laughing

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bigpup


Joined: 11 Oct 2009
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Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep 2010, 01:14    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Tried to set Flsynclient..... Synaptics not found!
Re-booted creating save file. Tried Flsynclient again... Synaptics not found.
Deleted save file, re-booted using classic configuration system. All no problem INCLUDING successful Synaptics install.

You know, we have had a report that synaptics only worked when automatically configured not when configured with CCE. As far as I am concerned it is all one system and we have two methods of configuring--if one does not work correctly then there is a chance the other will. It sounds like you are able to configure your hardware and use Lucid Puppy. Good deal.


Agreed. And it works the best yet. I actually deleted my 'fall back' Mint today. Never use it now Smile


There is something about Flsynclient on Barry's blog.
Not sure if it helps this problem.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01782
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5727
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep 2010, 01:37    Post subject:  

Luci-222 live pfix=ram on the quad. Only installed Firefox.....no Nvidia driver yet.
Booted to the correct resolution(1366x768) and working sound and internet.No acceleration though.


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 222

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (141MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.22
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 01 Sep 2010 12:38:13 AM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

Going to install Nvidia driver, back in a few....
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep 2010, 01:41    Post subject: Re: synclient-wrapper  

shinobar wrote:
DaveS wrote:
shinobar wrote:
DaveS wrote:
Tried to set Flsynclient..... Synaptics not found!
Re-booted creating save file. Tried Flsynclient again... Synaptics not found.
Deleted save file, re-booted using classic configuration system. All no problem INCLUDING successful Synaptics install..

The Synaptics touchpad works from the first desktop, but the flsynclient fails.
I made a wrapper script which can be a solution.
Try this.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=444668#444668


OK... fresh frugal install, no save file. Booted to desktop. Installed wrapper script. Attempted flsynclient.... Synaptics found, must restart X to use it. Attempted restart X, fail. Ran Xorg wizard... fail.
Hmmm....
Reboot, use classic configuration procedure, all fine.

Sorry, it was not tested on Lupu. Try the revised if you still have an interest.



TOTAL SUCCESS!
Automatic configuration works with this wrapper installed! Flsynclient bug DEAD!

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep 2010, 01:51    Post subject:  

I'm back................ Laughing

Installed the Nvidia 256.35 driver with Quickpet, made a few tweaks in the Nvidia wizard and.........



VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 222

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#



# glxgears
7742 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1548.400 FPS
9224 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1844.800 FPS
10063 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2012.600 FPS
10063 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2012.600 FPS
10053 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2010.600 FPS
10040 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2008.000 FPS
14137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2827.400 FPS
14583 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2916.600 FPS
14205 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2841.000 FPS
14213 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2842.600 FPS
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Karl Godt


Joined: 20 Jun 2010
Posts: 3964
Location: Kiel,Germany

PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep 2010, 07:29    Post subject:  

Still can't find the driver database for cups 1.4.3

the printers and drivers are listed at /usr/share/gutenprint/5.2/xml/printers.xml

One database seem to be at /usr/share/cups/ppdc/

and another at /usr/lib/gutenprint/5.2/modules/

I have an epson printer and I`m very confident

but there seems to be only one file for brother at /usr/share/ppd/

I`m wondering if some people are having problems setting up the printer for not having drivers already.

Had printed pdf without problems -- the pdf patch would take time to download and play around with.

The only nasty experience was that midori started doubling up http://localhost:631/ to http://localhost//localhost:631/
I had such too with firefox at one 4.3 adding www. like http://www.localhost:631/ while at internet (this was repaired by replacing /etc/cups) but until now there weren`t any X server crashes or hard shutdown so I do not see the need for examining /etc/cups at the moment

`cups_shell` seems to be right; couldn`t find any doubles there
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ICPUG

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Posts: 1290
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed 01 Sep 2010, 08:18    Post subject:  

JRB is back after a (too long for us) break.

What's more - he is going to do a little development! The Lucid developer team just gets better and better.

With QuickPet and an integrated SFS linker we can hopefully silence those reviewers who say the expansion possibilities of Puppy are limited.

I feel good today!
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