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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 06:14    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:

yeah.. why not? Laughing

(HINT: to change just open in mtpaint and select effects> transform color, adjust the hue, get out and save Wink )


Thanks and Thanks Very Happy

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Also, I'm sure we can ditch Flashplayer 10 since it has no chance to work! technosaurus has a wrapper for Flashplayer 7 that actually does work.. it fools sites into thinking you have flash10, it's a kind of masqerade Laughing , it's in the cutting edge forum.


This looks promising! I'll try both the 7 and the 9 version tonight and see how it goes. Maybe 9 is bearable Smile

Latter... : Hmmm, I tried it with my favorite XO bowser, Opera 10.1 and Flash7 is pretty useless. I doubt there are still web pages that it can open.
Flash 9 is actually worse than Flash10! At least with Opera.
Looks like the iPhone/iPad threat has some effect. Maybe Flash 11 will run Very Happy

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hailpuppy

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 06:47    Post subject:  

HI 01micko,
I just logged into your site and figured out that there is tool called "
alien2puppy " I was thinking of using that to convert a 1.6jdk to an sfs file. Will it work.My concern in this is to be able to do java programming, at least in an introductory level using XOpup. We already can do programming in many languages.So far i havent seen a sfs4 file for 1.6jdk which i belive is a missing thing.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 11:39    Post subject:  

Hi Mavrothal,
Downloaded (Edited here) V4 now using it.Unlike before,now i m browsing using firefox.sfs. you tube is not working wel.i downloaded and now playing it .only sound comes. i dont see video even in the downloaded version.In Skype 's case video was ok. but sound is problematic even when i took the skype test call. i hear sound very wel but the issue seemingly in is in the moke or the input process.

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 11:50    Post subject:  

hailpuppy wrote:
Hi Mavrothal,
Downloaded V3 now using it.Unlike before,now i m browsing using firefox.sfs. you tube is not working wel.i downloaded and now playing it .only sound comes. i dont see video even in the downloaded version.In Skype 's case video was ok. but sound is problematic even when i took the skype test call. i hear sound very wel but the issue seemingly in is in the moke or the input process.


Audio visual apps really stretch the hardware to the limit. Flash is the worse probably. Depending on the video you may see anything from 1fps at best or just 1 frame Very Happy
regarding Skype, sound is much better with a headset than the laptop mic in general and this is more true for the XO.
But are you saying that you actually did a two-way Skype video call and it did not crash???
That would be outstanding even at 1fps! A first ever!!! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 13:51    Post subject:  

Mavrothal,
This is how I checked the skype video call. I kept my wireless router just 2 feet5 away from me and grabbed another laptop.I logged in to both the laptop skype and XOpup skype using different user names and then checked the quality. In that case Skype did work fine and i checked voices also. I didnt get achance to do a skype call with a real second party over a long distance. Perhaps this was the case?
By the way I did the said testing using XOpup-V3.

With Xopup-V4 i could nt yet get a chance to do that test with the laptop and instead tried to connect through a guy in US from Sri lanka. I could see and hear his voice and video but he complained that he didnt hear my voice properly.He was always telling me to slow down with my voice. Even though he didnt hear the voice properly he said that he saw my video clearly.

And on the other hand I couldnt see my own video on the screen even when he could see mine.(Im not very sure about this particular observation of mine)

I tried to do a skype test call also.Even though i could hear the testers voice when I listened to my recorded voice it didnt come right.Voice was like shaky and very speedy .

My results with the downloaded youtube video.
Mplayer-played only the audio with a blank video
Gxine sfs-No video and no audio
No GUi VLC- Audio only
all sfs files were taken from chice pup forum with below link

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1500014479&t=47465

Note: With Sugar OS and camera activity in video recording, i remember my voice being recorded and played back very well,So inbuilt microphone must be ok ?
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 14:32    Post subject:  

hailpuppy wrote:
Mavrothal,
This is how I checked the skype video call. I kept my wireless router j
With Xopup-V4 i could nt yet get a chance to do that test with the laptop and instead tried to connect through a guy in US from Sri lanka. I could see and hear his voice and video but he complained that he didnt hear my voice properly.He was always telling me to slow down with my voice. Even though he didnt hear the voice properly he said that he saw my video clearly.


Wow!
Skype video-conferencing is crashing on the XO-1 in Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu, AFAIK.
Puppy IS beter Very Happy
I have to fix the damn camera... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 00:03    Post subject:  

Hi Mavrothal,
Ahem you might want to fix the Microphone also buddy.By the way I was just about to ask how you compare our lovely XOpup with the Fedora build for XO-1,which they claim as the Best OS ever for XO! Smile

I have failth that our guys in Puppy world will produce the best OS ever for XOpup. If they could come this far with daunting obstacles,which even made me feel that I might have to abondom the hope of an XOpup, they can surely go a bit further to produce the best OS for XO. Smile ...

And again I wish I could join your effors to build the XO but I lack the expertise but in times to come i will be .... Smile hopefully...
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 00:34    Post subject:  

Hi Mavrothal,
There is another issue with the touchpad curser. Sometimes it doesnt go in the direction we want it to go. I have observed this mostly at times when we open an application and immediately after closing the application.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 02:47    Post subject:  

mic: type "alsamixer -V all" in your terminal and see if any setting is off. To increase sensitivity just turn bias on.
What is the exact problem? Recording should be OK but Skype out was always a bit rough

BTW is there any pet for ALSA GUI?

Touchpad: For first generation XO-1s (with the 3 segment touchpad) the jumping cursor is a perennial issue. Is a hardware problem. That's why they changed it in the second generation XO-1 and the XO-1.5.
When it goes crazy just press the 4 keyboard corner keys, with the "fn" last, to recalibrate.
But look at the bright site, you can activate the wide tablet mode and write with a stylus in this touchbat Very Happy
(just: echo 0|1 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/ptmode )

Best OS ever: Yes is the Best OLPC/SugarLabs, Fedora11/Sugar, OS. Wink
It should be in your XO-1 internal NAND. Try either the official os852 or the SugarLabs, Dextrose version (better IMHO).

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 03:26    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:


Best OS ever: Yes is the Best OLPC/SugarLabs, Fedora11/Sugar, OS. Wink
It should be in your XO-1 internal NAND. Try either the official os852 or the SugarLabs, Dextrose version (better IMHO).


This isnt clear .are you saying that there is a beter OS for XOlaptop other than XOpup??? Crying or Very sad

Hmm..if you have a link to get it Mavrothal can you post it?I want to see if iys better in which ways its going to go past XOpup..

As`for other things I l have it checked and let you know when I get to home. Im stil at office Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 05:26    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
BTW is there any pet for ALSA GUI?


Haven't seen one, but found these...

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=385522

This is earlier, but may have useful tips/links

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=110400

ALSA main page [puppy uses cutdown, full sometimes recommended

http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page

See also Jack

http://jackaudio.org/

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26267

HTH

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 06:01    Post subject:  

hailpuppy wrote:

This isnt clear .are you saying that there is a beter OS for XOlaptop other than XOpup??? Crying or Very sad

Hmm..if you have a link to get it Mavrothal can you post it?I want to see if iys better in which ways its going to go past XOpup..


With XO-1-class hardware, "Best OS" means the OS that can do what you think is more important with the less possible compromises for you

On the XO-1 I have used variants of Fedora9, Fedora11, Debian Leny, Debian Squeeze, Ubuntu 8.4, Ubuntu 8.10, Tinycore 2x and 3x ... and I still want Puppy to be developed for the XO-1.... But that's me... Very Happy

I do not think is appropriate in a puppylinux forum to give specific info for other OSs. You can find all these in wiki.laptop.org, wiki.sugarlabs.org and www.olpcnews.com/forum/ . They all have search buttons Wink


Aitch,
thanks for the info

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 08:00    Post subject:  

mav...

Check your inbox.. hopefully a pleasant surprise there Wink ( er.. hopefully!!!)

Cheers

EDIT: for alsa gui right click the speaker icon in the tray Wink "retrovol" window has 2 choices, config and full, Full is for alsa settings, retrovol is fully alsa compliant Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 12:19    Post subject: congrats for this new build for the XO!  

Great to see v3 and v4 for XOpup! I am enjoying testing Puppy on my XO.

First, kudos for mavrothal for his daedalian skills and persistence in leading and tracking this effort. And kudos for all other contributors and advocates.

Next, I do like the added 'xo-pup.jpg' screen with its OLPC logo since it builds on the collaboration that make hardware, software and systems work.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 03:56    Post subject: touchpad widget  

For those with the first generation very "jumpy" XO-1 touchpad, there is a bright site Surprised , it can turn into a wide area tablet.
I thought would be nice to include this option in XOpup, so I made the XOpad.pet.
Download it from the host site, click on it to install it and next time you select the "touchpad configuration" in the "Keyboard/mouse wizard" the selection widget will appear.
Try it out and see if it makes life easier, particularly in drawing or anything that needs fine mouse control.

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