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its-me-again

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 02:29    Post_subject: interesting  

I use lighthouse marriner d version would this app work on that it is a murge of 431, Woof and Spup. i believe that s it relies heavly on sfs files if not included it should be
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jrb


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 06:55    Post_subject:  

its-me-again wrote:
jrb wrote:
I have included two versions. One with replacement /usr/local/bin/defaultprograms so your loaded programs will become the defaults and one without.


so what version makes the sfs files default then

That's a feature that I dropped some time ago. (Can't even find where I said it now!) I put "if" statements in the /usr/local/bin/default* files so that, for example, with no browser SFS loaded it would default to Seamonkey. If Opera SFS was loaded it would default to Opera. This required a special symlink built into the SFS as well.

There got to be so many puppy versions and custom puppies with specially modified default* files that this conflicted with so I let it go. Likewise, there are so many SFS files out there now, without the special symlinks that it didn't seem worthwhile anymore.

I can tell you how to modify the default* files and SFS's if you'd like to set them up yourself.

That's where it sits right now, one size fits all.

Cheers, J
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 09:23    Post_subject: Works Now  

I suspected a bad download, or something amiss with my USB install....so,
I replicated what you did....started from square1.

Works like a charm!

What a great Utility.....instead of running one of the PuppyBloat puplets, I can have what I need and want.....and my save file in the USB drive doesn't get taxed as it would with the conventional .pet additions.

With Firefox....If I load in your firefox sfs file....can I run the firefox update? If so, will the updates disappear when I unload the sfs file?

Thanks a lot!

Thom
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jrb


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep 2010, 12:14    Post_subject:  

jrb wrote:
It is fairly easy to build your own SFS's from .pets however. I am attaching two .pets which you can use.

Gposil's pet2xarc will extract .pets to a folder with the same name.
Dir2sfs_nover will convert that folder into an SFS.
The versions I have attached both have right click options. Right click on the .pet and extract. Right click on the folder and convert to SFS.

Thom, I've never used Firefox update but I suspect it will just load up your pupsave with the new version, And you'll still have to load the SFS to get your menus etc.

Try building your own SFS from the latest .pet. Its quite easy. I loaded pet2xarc and dir2sfs_nover on page 1 of this thread.

Let me know how it goes. Good luck, J
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 14:14    Post_subject: I am a NOOB to this
Sub_title: How and when to use your tools on the 1st page of this post
 

@jrb, seems that this is much needed tools.

I PM'ed you with more details to my question:

Is there some small wirte-up of what and how to use your PETs ?

Please see my PM to you.

Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 18:44    Post_subject: Using your PETs for SFSs  

I PM'd you with a scenario and question about LightHouse (lhpup) Mariner's LiveDVD (version 5.0 D). This relates to the post of @its-me-again written here, to you, on Monday.

Please look at the PM to you. Thanks
P.S. This is NOT an attempt to plug LightHouse. But, it is my attempt to understand how to use your tool. It just happens that the owner of LightHouse, @taroc, steered me to you thinking that your tool might be appropriate for my intended flexible environment use. If your tool works, this is a HUGE step in the Puppy world.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 19:14    Post_subject:  

Hi gcmartin,

Glad you let me know about the PM - no notification from forum and it says no new messages but it was there.

I'm working from 9:00 to 9:00 today so really don't have much time to look at it but I will tomorrow.

SFS_Linker-1.5 does work on live CD's and DVD's. It links / to /mnt/home and SFS's there can be mounted. With that said, Its my understanding that SFS's on CD's or DVD's get mounted into ram so I'm not sure how that will effect low ram machines.

I'll take a closer look at you situation tomorrow morning.

Bye for now, J
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 21:35    Post_subject: SFS-TCZ_Linker-1.5.pet
Sub_title: Use on LIveDVD systems
 

Thanks. I am running a AMD X2 with 4GB of mem.

I will test, after you comment. (as you can see, if I had posted this here, it would have been more like a book, ranther than a forum post.)

I will produce a doc with pics to show what worked for this single scenario. This (hopeflly) should reduce some questions on your tool's use and should help others new to the tool's use.

Anyway, again, your tool is a very needed utility in the Puppy world. I see how others are so appreciative with your work, here.

Thanks in advance...

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 22:01    Post_subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
If your tool works, this is a HUGE step in the Puppy world.


That's what I thought, so offered it as a link....

One happy bunny

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59612

Also requested its inclusion into new builds, thanks jrb

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59496&start=30

Aitch Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 16:53    Post_subject:  

Thanks for the positives guys,

I'm afraid I've had only partial success with lighthouse pup. Was able to install SFS_Linker-1.5 to live cd reboot, save and use with SFS's on harddrive

I copied an SFS to / and linked it to /root/my_links/sfs_boot_links and saved so that it should start on bootup. When I rebooted the desktop came up but mouse and keyboard frozen. Have tried this twice now with same results.

Will continue to investigate as time allows.

Bye for now, J
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 21:59    Post_subject:  

gcmartin,

Have modified and tested SFS-TCZ_Linker-1.6.pet in Lighthouse 5D both Live CD and regular. Seems to work very well. Had to make a few small changes but I'm quite sure they won't be incompatible with other pups.

Try it out! J
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 22:07    Post_subject:  

Dingo wrote:
I found sfs-linker makes possible mount ands use a devx sfs from LIVE CD

Now I investigated better and more in deep

see image attached, it represents /usr/lib/ after devx mount (with sfslinker latest version)

several symlinks seem broken, the strange is that are pointing to files supposed in devx. Maybe this is a union/aufs limit? devx can't be used fully without frugal install at least and a reboot?

Dingo, I probably shouldn't say anything but I have managed to make an SFS_LInker that successfully mounts devx.sfs. As technosaurus suggested I copy the original symlinks from the SFS. I just haven't quite worked out how to get rid of them when the SFS is unmounted. Confused If I haven't puzzled that out soon I'll release it anyway. What's a few extra symlinks, eh?

Cheers, J
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 14:46    Post_subject: THANK YOU VERY MUCH  

I PM'ed the LightHouse owner, @TazOC, of your very fine efforts. Thanks bunches!
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 02:24    Post_subject:  

Have just uploaded SFS-TCZ_Linker-1.7.pet. This one should work with devx SFS's (where's the emoticon for crossed fingers?). Wink Give it a good test.

Enjoy, J
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 13:04    Post_subject: Re: SFS-TCZ_Linker-1.8.pet
Sub_title: Mount and use SFS and TCZ files
 

Have just uploaded SFS-TCZ_Linker-1.8.pet. This is a fix for 1.7. Doh! I forgot to put the patch for copying existing symlinks into sfs_linker_silent which means it wouldn't work when loading at bootup. Embarassed All fixed now. Very Happy
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