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Opera mail gone and can't be reinstalled
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tide

Joined: 13 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Sep 2010, 10:54    Post subject:  Opera mail gone and can't be reinstalled  

No idea what happened and why. It started with opera not fetching my mails anymore from the POP 3 server. After a day I checked and found out, had been curious already where all my mail was. I always leave a copy on the server, so nothing lost but a bit of a nuisance.
Now however the entire Opera mail client is gone, task bar and all. When I re-enter my details Opera sez I've got so and so many new mails but I can't access them, still no button etc. It seems that the details don't get stored at all because when I go back to Tools,Mail I'm asked to create a mail account first.

So what now?

Is it because I have 900 something unread mails, is there a limit?

Running Puppy 4.2.1 with Opera 10.0
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tide

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 07:48    Post subject:  

I suppose it's looking for the mail settings in the "account.ini" file.
Did a search and found two:

/initrd/pup_rw/root/.opera/mail/accounts.ini

/root/.opera/mail/accounts.ini

However there's no directory called "dot opera" so I can't tell opera to import its settings from the specified location.
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Jasper


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 08:23    Post subject:  

Hi,

The dot before "opera" means that directory is hidden.

Perhaps it may help if you unhide it.

My regards
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tide

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 08:48    Post subject:  

Well, that helped a bit, thanks. I can now at least select the directory etc but how do I unhide the file? I can opt for "show hidden" but the file itself can only be renamed or deleted. So still can't select the file and tell Opera to import the settings.
And why did they go in the first place?
Plus: why can't I even create a new account?
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tide

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 09:30    Post subject:  

I told the filer to make the opera directory search and executable and renamed it, deleting the dot. Shows up fine but I still can't select the accounts.ini
Close, but no cigar.

I think this is part of the problem because clearly all my settings are there but Opera, for some reason, can't get at them.
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Terryphi


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 10:54    Post subject:  

tide wrote:
I told the filer to make the opera directory search and executable and renamed it, deleting the dot. Shows up fine but I still can't select the accounts.ini
Close, but no cigar.

I think this is part of the problem because clearly all my settings are there but Opera, for some reason, can't get at them.


Slow down! Opera will look for a directory mail in /root/.opera . You should not have renamed .opera (dot opera). Rename it to .opera and then let us know what you see when you open Opera.
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Rupp

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 12:49    Post subject:  

Regarding your other post, you mentioned it asked you to accept the EULA again. That tells me you have a corrupted .opera folder. You'll likely have to start over.

You can likely save all the .ini files and place them in the new folder once it generates.
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tide

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 13:21    Post subject:  

Terryphi wrote:

Slow down! Opera will look for a directory mail in /root/.opera . You should not have renamed .opera (dot opera). Rename it to .opera and then let us know what you see when you open Opera.


See what you mean, I've now got both a dot opera and my renamed opera directory. Explains why I had to re-register. But what is now upsetting the new directory?
Didn't do anything with that, did I? Should be perfectly normal.
Since shutting down Puppy appears to give my external drive a hard time (no pun intended, it switches off with an audible click), could it be that files simply get corrupted?
Is there anything that I can use to check the disk?

cheers
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Terryphi


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Oct 2010, 03:08    Post subject:  

tide wrote:
Terryphi wrote:

Slow down! Opera will look for a directory mail in /root/.opera . You should not have renamed .opera (dot opera). Rename it to .opera and then let us know what you see when you open Opera.


See what you mean, I've now got both a dot opera and my renamed opera directory.


What is your top priority? I thought you were concerned about retrieving your old emails? If so, they may still be accessible in that folder. Have you tried going back to using your original .opera directory? Rename your new .opera directory to .operanew and then rename the old .opera back to .opera . Obviously, do all this while Opera is closed then open Opera and see what happens. Does Opera mail now function as you expect and can you see your old emails?

If not, your old mail directory is corrupted you will have no alternative but to delete the mail directory. Then open Opera and set up the email accounts again.
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tide

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Oct 2010, 03:50    Post subject:  

My top priority would be to have a fully working browser and mail/news client. I don't need to retrieve my mails, always leave a copy on the server. Re-entering the user name and password took me a few seconds, that's not much of a problem.
Opera often slows down to a crawl and takes the entire system down, making everything unusable. Can't even shutdown my computer without pulling the plug.
After rebooting Opera doesn't restore my session so I always lose all my opened tabs
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Rupp

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Oct 2010, 04:56    Post subject:  

tide wrote:
Opera often slows down to a crawl and takes the entire system down, making everything unusable. Can't even shutdown my computer without pulling the plug.
After rebooting Opera doesn't restore my session so I always lose all my opened tabs


That tells me you need a different browser. If you keep having problems like that no matter what you do the ~/.opera folder will get corrupted. It doesn't like bad shutdowns.
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tide

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Oct 2010, 16:18    Post subject:  

Yeah, seems so. Opera just crashed and after I rebooted the laptop it told me "There was a problem with Opera Mail, couldn't initiate accounts.ini" Back to square one.
So what would be a sensible choice? I'd prefer one with inbuilt mail/news client but "fit to size" is a must. Manually zooming through websites on a 800x600 resolution just doesn't cut the mustard.
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tide

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Oct 2010, 16:38    Post subject:  

Just tried the 10.62 Opera and it has the same problems that I experienced under 10.61. That's why I preferred 10.0edirect to extremist websites
The settings are all over the place and somebody found it funny to redirect to extremist websites. Think I can do without that, thanks.
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disciple

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Oct 2010, 01:06    Post subject:  

tide wrote:
The settings are all over the place

For example?
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and somebody found it funny to redirect to extremist websites. Think I can do without that, thanks.

What is redirecting to extremist websites? I very much doubt that Opera is at fault.
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Opera often slows down to a crawl and takes the entire system down, making everything unusable.

That is surprising - I always found Opera very robust, although I haven't tried the latest versions. I have a feeling the evil Flash is the problem, not Opera...

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scsijon

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Oct 2010, 02:32    Post subject:  

tide wrote:
So what would be a sensible choice? I'd prefer one with inbuilt mail/news client but "fit to size" is a must. Manually zooming through websites on a 800x600 resolution just doesn't cut the mustard.


Hi, my sugestions are:

1- split your email+ from your browser, I suspect that you just have too much in it as it's repacking the mail on shutdown while trying to compress to a smaller size, with the number you have I also suspect there may be a corrupt message or maybe attachment.

2- Cool You can use my Eudora OSE1 RC2 pet if you want, it has news and some other stuff built in. If RC2 is not on view in the tree yet for your puppy version, it's not far away. You can install the old RC1 and get a handle with how it works, as rc2 just updates what's needed for rc1 installed users. It's basically an enhanced Mozella Thunderbird with the old closed Eudora "stuff" added. link to follow is: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=432505#432505

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