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#21 Post by nooby »

Close but no cigar.

I have edit and edit that one.

If I put a # in front of that line then it accept to stay about 7 oclock.

Which is some inch higher up but it still locks to that position instead of to be stay where one place it like the others do so has to be some other script that take care about it.

Maybe we have to just let it have it's will? Just annoying it force me to accept something that I had hoped would be under user choice where to have them.

I tested to write Left but then it went to Top instead. Unpredictable behavior.
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Drive icon position

#22 Post by shinobar »

For information:
They are determined by the function free_coord() at line 209-298 of /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d.
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#23 Post by nooby »

Shinobar,

so if I get it they are defined as variable within a function?

One need to recompile to get at them?

We call it a day it is not important just an annoyance to take away flexibility that I as a Noob expect of an OS.

Much appreciated you cared this way. I fail to get why me should use any other Puppy.

Now I have to over come my laziness and make DVD and offer them to neighbors.
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#24 Post by adXok »

Unfortunately I could make it even run. Gives me kernel stop message at load procedure. :(

PC system: Pentium IV 2.4GHz, 1,3GB RAM 333MHz, LG DVD-DL device, Gigabyte motherboard (old), nVidia 6200A 512MB shader 3.0.

Other puppies loading fine from the same RW-CD. :(

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Re: kernel stop

#25 Post by shinobar »

adXok wrote:Gives me kernel stop message at load procedure. :(
Do you remember what it says?
Check the md5sum of .iso file.
Try 'safe mode' from boot menu.
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#26 Post by L18L »

hello shinobar,
sorry, it is midori again:
klicking on menu help launched midori file:///usr/share/doc/index.html
There klicking the 2nd select (4dtris) lets midori freeze.
Therefore I have installed good old seamonkey, it does not freeze!
Then I have changed default browser to seamonkey.
As menu help was continuing to launch midori, I have revised puppyhelp and made 2 changes. (see Posted: Yesterday, at 21:46 Post subject:
Subject description: addition 2 to langpack-de
).

Now klicking menu help launches my default browser (seamonkey) file:///usr/share/doc/help/de/index.html

But anyhow, we will continue to make it better :D

edit
please change last lines of my /usr/sbin/puppyhelp posted in translate lupq from

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#
[ "$F" != "" ] || F="/usr/share/doc/index.html"
exec $BROWSER "file://$F"
to

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#[ "$F" != "" ] || F="/usr/share/doc/index.html"
[ ! -f "$F" ] && F="/usr/share/doc/index.html" 
exec $BROWSER "file://$F" &
was my mistake
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#27 Post by nooby »

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#28 Post by adXok »

Well, I tested it and is very, very good puppy distro.
One thing I would like is XFCE desktop environment. I used to use NOP distro 4.3.1 and find it very useful. Not a big deal but anyway.

One question though!

I saw that my Audio Mixer ALSA is full with channels. Is that your work or the new Puppy Lucid is like that. I seem to make use of it when using my emu 10k2 Creative sound card (like an audio routing driver).

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Audio Mixer

#29 Post by shinobar »

Thanks, adXok.
adXok wrote:One question though!

I saw that my Audio Mixer ALSA is full with channels. Is that your work or the new Puppy Lucid is like that. I seem to make use of it when using my emu 10k2 Creative sound card (like an audio routing driver).
I am not sure i am following you.
It highly depends on the audio driver of the kernel.
LupQ has Retrovel as the audio mixer, can start from the menu. But aslo you can run alsamixer from the virtual terminal. Any difference between the two?
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gcmartin

http://bkhome.org/blog/

#30 Post by gcmartin »

@shinobar
Did you see this note from Barry about Jemimah's work.
http://bkhome.org/blog/

Hope this helps

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Re: http://bkhome.org/blog/

#31 Post by shinobar »

gcmartin wrote:Did you see this note from Barry about Jemimah's work.
http://bkhome.org/blog/
Thanks. I am always checking Barry's Blog and also interesting with Jemimah's works.
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wacom tablet

#32 Post by don570 »

Forum member charlie6 has been able to get his wacom tablet to
work with lupq after a lot of work and experimentation.

Read this page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=135

_______________________________________________________

I wrote a Tutorial on how to split mp3 files using mp3splt
and snackAmp together.

See this page
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 103#457103

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mtpaint fix

#33 Post by don570 »

The maintainer of mtpaint has warned that recent versions
of mtpaint don't create a preference file in /root.

This means that preferences won't be saved.

So check if file exists and if it doesn't you must create yourself.

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touch ~/.mtpaint
You can test by setting a new preference , quit and restart mtpaint.
For instance I like to zoom with the scroll wheel which is a preference.

Version 3.34.56 will fix the problem in future.
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QuickSET LIveCD with GRUB opening

#34 Post by gcmartin »

@Shinobar
I have already commended your achievement with GRUB on the LiveCD is a very creative piece of work.

I run a LiveCD/LiveDVD version of your system. And, it is refreshing to have that. It has helped me see how to extend it for other uses in my future.

I am enclosing a menu.lst that you "may" want to consider, if its applicable to your efforts.

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# This is Puppy LiveCD menu.lst file. 
# 
# The old install method of booting via the stage-files has been removed.
#
# You may install GRLDR boot strap code to MBR with the 
# bootlace.com utility under DOS/Win9x/Linux.
#
#This menu presents boot options for your Puppy LiveCD or your local HDD
#
# GRUB boot errors you may encounter are described at 
# http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html#SEC104

#color black/cyan black/yelow white/black yellow/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
#forground=FFFF00
#background=000088
default 0
timeout 10

# Boot Pupppy normally allow it to search LiveCD/HDD for prior session files
title Lucid Puppy Linux Quickset edition 5.1.1
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd i915.modeset=1  video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz

title Puppy safe mode\nStart puppy with safety boot options(without X)\nTry 'xorgwizard' after bootup succeed to start graphic mode.
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram,nox acpi=off apm=off nosmp noapic nodma nopcmcia i915.modeset=1  video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz

# Boot Pupppy DIRECTLY into RAM. Do NOT load prior Puppy sessions on CD/HDD
title Puppy on RAM only\nRun totally in RAM, ignore saved sessions(puppy pfix=ram)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram i915.modeset=1  video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz

# Do NOT BOOT LIVECD. Use the PC's default booting process
title Bootup from HDD\nBootup from the master boot record of the hard disk drive
chainloader (hd0)+1

title Windows VISTA\nStart Windows VISTA if installed on HDD
fallback 6
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /bootmgr
chainloader /bootmgr

title Windows NT/2K/XP\nStart Windows NT/2K/XP if installed on HDD
fallback 7
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ntldr
chainloader /ntldr

title Windows 9x/Me\nStart Windows 95/98/Me or MSDOS if installed on HDD
fallback 4
find --set-root /io.sys
chainloader /io.sys

title Grub4Dos commandline\n(GRUB commandline for experts only)
commandline


title Reboot computer
reboot

title Halt computer
halt

# You MAY want to add an additional Partition/HDD alternative to this menu.lst
# title A Linux System on your local HDD
#
# GRUB boot errors you may encounter are described at 
# http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html#SEC104
#

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forgets the internet connection?

#35 Post by shinobar »

A few reports given in the forum such as 'The Puppy forgets the internet connection'.
It means one can connect once but after the re-boot PC, it loose the connection.

I like to narrow down the discussion here on the Network Wizard, built in LupQ.

The connection settings are saved under /etc/network-wizard.
If you can find the files containing the machine address of your interface, the LupQ is not forgeting your settings.
But it may fail automatic connection. Or the connection is unstable.

One of the case, with wireless LAN, the Puppy connect to the strange IP.
It can be 169.254.xxx.xxx or somewhere neighbour LAN.
You can check the IP from the 'IPInfo network information' under 'System' menu.

You may be able to get better driver for your interface.
Note that the driver is the kernel specific.
Check the topic Extras for Puppy 5.1 with 2.6.33.2 kernel

If the LupQ fails automatic connection after re-boot,
try right-click the 'Connect' icon on the desktop and select 'Autoconnect'.
If it can connect, there may be a chance to fix the problem.

If it is only the timing issue, you can elongate the timeout waiting the interface ready.
Open the file '/etc/rc.d/rc.network' with geany.
You can find at line 341:

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    MAXWAIT=12
Means the timeout is 12 seconds. You can change it with larger number.

If this change lead you success, please report as the reply.
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Experience between 5.1.1 and 4.3.1 regarding wireless...

#36 Post by Joe Jasniewski »

Hello, I was informed that this may be better thread to voice my issue.

Running on Toshiba 3500, when I use pup 4.3.1 my embedded wireless interface is found immediately. Driver used is "orinoco_cs". Always work after initial setup and remain absolutely stable through many machine power cycles.

Lupo OR lupq gives much difficulty with this. First it say "No modules found" Well I know this is not true, so I load orinoco_cs manually. Sometimes actually finds module, but most times computer work for a few seconds and then _still_ say "No modules found". Always lose setup and have to redo connection wizard on reboot! Never one time in 4.3.1...

What changed in this area between pup 4.3.1 and 5.1.1? I would love it to be just simple maxwait variable change, but I dont notice 4.3.1 taking any long delays to recognize wireless and setup properly. It's pretty much ready to go by the time the OS is finished coming up.

Is there a substitute for standard puppy wireless setup wizard which can be used to get around the issue? I certainly dont know enough about Linux to even ask that question in a legitimate way.

Thanks and best regards,

Joe Jasniewski

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Re: Experience between 5.1.1 and 4.3.1 regarding wireless...

#37 Post by shinobar »

Joe, i am afraid i cannot give you the solution right now but give you some information background.
Joe Jasniewski wrote:What changed in this area between pup 4.3.1 and 5.1.1? I would love it to be just simple maxwait variable change, but I dont notice 4.3.1 taking any long delays to recognize wireless and setup properly. It's pretty much ready to go by the time the OS is finished coming up.
Seems not the timing issue...
Puppy-431 and LupQ/Lupu-511 have different kernel that is different driver.
The driver is specific with the kernel and not always the newer the better.

If you can find better driver for the kernel LupQ-511 has, 2.6.33.2 kernel, the thing to be different.
Load the module manually typing 'modprobe orinoco_cs', or 'rmmod orinoco_cs' then 'modprobe orinoco_cs'.
See the message by typing 'dmesg'.

If your manual loading and connection setting success, you can auto-load at boot
registering the module to load using bootmanager.
(rmmod the module before running bootmanager.)
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Pwireless2

#38 Post by yordanj94 »

Hi Shinobar.

I had the same problem with my wireless.

Don't know what's the reason for that but when i did as we call in Bulgaria some try-mistake, try-mistake the result was that Lupq works well with "pwireless-0.8.4.pet", but not so well with "Pwireless2".

Hope this will you in some way.

Best regards.

Yordan.

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#39 Post by nooby »

I am not intelligent enough to use LupQ on the Acer, it worked good on the Packard Bell but fail to boot and have many other issues on the Acer so I chose lup234 instead on Acer.

old text

First it did not want to boot and me remembered Shinobar had the i915 thing so me added that one and it booted and me tested to install wine and spotify worked and then me installed both chrome and thunderBird

And now I have no idea how I tell the mail icon to use TB isntead of starting up midori?

Maybe one have to activate TB first and even reboot?
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modified version of mtpaint

#40 Post by don570 »

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As previously mentioned I have had problems with mtpaint
responding properly to the pressure of stylus using wacom tablet.
I received a modified version of mtpaint 3.34.56 from the
maintainer Dimitri Groshev that was compiled in Slack Linux.
He made some quick changes in the method used for mouse position
in the mtpaint window and he succeeded. :D No problems
now in mtpaint's pressure sensitivity.


He asked me to test it. It works well in lupq except that the Wacom
tablet setup is not permanent i.e. the tablet settings have to be reset in
mtpaint preferences each time that mtpaint is launched.
This takes only a few seconds but is irritating.

Hopefully this can be fixed.

If you want to try out this application, here's
a download site

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-ebf11bdd.html

Post any other bugs.

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