Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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#3841 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 14:35

Hi Guys I've managed to get network_tray and freememapplet to work on xfce/metacity, both are Barry's latest versions.
I'll work towards a new release for this week

ttuuxxx

#3842 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 14:45

I also don't really like the sub categories in the menu, I like it better the jwm way, where it list all items in a single non sorted menu, I think I might remove them, what do you think?
ttuuxxx

clarf · #3843 Post by **clarf** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 15:07

Hi ttuuxxx,

I liked too much how metacity looks with GTK themes.

I have my doubts about Xfce size and memory consumption, then I did some tests using LXPanel with good results (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 8&start=25).

Xfce and LXPanel has nice plugins, but for both apps I have not found a way to swallow applications like in JWM, something needed to show vital Puppy information. For now JWM seems to be the king.

If someone wants to try LXPanel, I post here the menu structure for 214X.

EDIT: Update to a pet with additional change for some menu-items

clarf

clarf · #3844 Post by **clarf** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 15:14

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Guys I've managed to get network_tray and freememapplet to work on xfce/metacity, both are Barry's latest versions.
I'll work towards a new release for this week
ttuuxxx

These are great news ttuuxxx, we only need a battery/plugged indicator that also shows the remaining time and we´ll be ready to move on.

I also don't really like the sub categories in the menu, I like it better the jwm way, where it list all items in a single non sorted menu, I think I might remove them, what do you think?

To be honest I like the way the menu is sorted now. I don´t like large lists because they difficult my old eyes to find anything.

clarf

#3845 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 15:23

Hi clarf I have 2 out of 4 working, next is the volume control and xload app. Shouldn't be all that hard, hopefully

The total size that xfcepanel added to 2.14X was less than 300kb uncompressed.
The biggest addition in size of the top3 release was the latest abiword which was long overdue, by about 6 years,lol
I'll have a menu switch for jwm or xfce/metacity for anyone who wants to use jwm and save some resources. Actually I'm debating on having cups autostart, I could remove the link in startup and have it install once the printer setup-wizard starts. I never use a printer but the daemon is always running.
I bet many users don't use printers either. and naturally someone set up the printer, then the link will be installed and will work after each reboot etc.
ttuuxxx

clarf · #3846 Post by **clarf** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 15:57

ttuuxxx wrote: The total size that xfcepanel added to 2.14X was less than 300kb uncompressed.

It´s about the same size than lxpanel (menu-cache included), my doubts are the memory consumption because Menu, launcher and systray seems to be separated process in Xfce. Please try Lxpanel and comment your results even if you find that it´s worst.

ttuuxxx wrote: I'll have a menu switch for jwm or xfce/metacity for anyone who wants to use jwm and save some resources. Actually I'm debating on having cups autostart, I could remove the link in startup and have it install once the printer setup-wizard starts. I never use a printer but the daemon is always running.
I bet many users don't use printers either. and naturally someone set up the printer, then the link will be installed and will work after each reboot etc.
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx, I don´t use a printer either.

I think the cups script in the startup folder is redundant, because there is already an initialization script in /etc/init.d/cups that is executed by the /etc/rc.d/rc.services script at boot (it executes "script start" for all scripts found in init.d).... You could change the executable permissions in all these /etc/init.d scripts (cups, rc.hiawatha) and let the user enable them via BootManager a feature that we included for 214X in a previous release.

clarf

#3847 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 15:58

clarf wrote: These are great news ttuuxxx, we only need a battery/plugged indicator that also shows the remaining time and we´ll be ready to move on.
clarf

Hi clarf hmmm I don't use laptops, but if a battery indicator is missing, I'll find a way to add it.
ttuuxxx

#3848 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 16:15

Hi clarf

I did compile lxpanel,fbpanel, and a few others and configured them before settling with xfpanel, The reason why I picked xfpanel is because it has a better system config, and works with thunar, plus hands down it has tons of plugins, I'll have to recompile it later because I lost the dev files as you know, but here's the plugin page http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/start and latest versions of freememory, network monitor works, actually I tried some of Ubuntu's plugins and few worked out of the box on 2.14X.
But later on i'll compile a addon pet for them.
Its late now and I have to work in a couple of hours, so I'm off for now.
ttuuxxx

sullysat · #3849 Post by **sullysat** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 19:47

Okay, I finally got an AC adapter for one of the old laptops I had in the garage and got to load Classic on it. But I'm having a crazy boot issue, that I'm pretty sure is grub related. I've spent the last couple hours looking for a similar situation on the forum and decided I'd put it out there, so here goes.

Hardware:
PII366/256MB RAM/6GB HDD

Three partitions:
2GB (hda1)
3.5GB (hda2)
500MB (swap)

I did a frugal install to the root of hda1, then installed Grub and c/p the recommended verbiage from /tmp/newgrub.txt:

Puppy (the typical title line)
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=idehd
initrd /initrd.gz

The system boots to Grub and runs fine right up to the line:
"BusyBox v1.6.1 (2007-07-25 02:56:22 PUP) multi-ball binary"

At which point it says,

"Usage: init

Init is the parent of all processes"

and then stops dead.

I've worked through a variety of grub issues over the years, but I haven't seen this before or found anything similar as I looked in the forums.

Any ideas?

Sully

James C · #3850 Post by **James C** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 20:06

You might try something like......

title = Puppy 214x (frugal) on hda1
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.gz

sullysat · #3851 Post by **sullysat** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 20:23

Thanks James!

I understand the idea behind adding (hd0,0) to the paths but what does

root=/dev/ram0

do for the process?

It worked after making those changes

Sully

#3852 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 20:23

here's a battery monitor from ubuntu, can someone tell me if it works? you have to add it, via adding on the taskbar
ttuuxxx

James C · #3853 Post by **James C** » Sun 12 Sep 2010, 21:32

puppyluvr wrote: Hello,
Well, I enjoyed playing around with the whole GTK / Metacity theme thing that I made my own..
They are called...(GTK) BlueJay...and (Metacity) BlueJay-OSX, of course..

Grabbed your themes.Nice work.

clarf · #3854 Post by **clarf** » Mon 13 Sep 2010, 02:02

ttuuxxx wrote:here's a battery monitor from ubuntu, can someone tell me if it works? you have to add it, via adding on the taskbar
ttuuxxx

Thanks ttuuxxx, it works fine in my HP laptop.

Although the battery icon does not have any action (too simple for me, they could made it useful, changing the icon when I connect/disconnect the AC), it shows a right percentage number and detects when my battery is charging or not.

A little problem with the remaining time always showing 00:00.

It can executes a command or alert for a certain amount of charge.

clarf

clarf · #3855 Post by **clarf** » Tue 14 Sep 2010, 02:03

ttuuxxx wrote:Here's the latest freememory app that Barry came up with, I didn't like the original graphics so I changed them , Only the best for 2.14x users
enjoy
ttuuxxx

Thanks for including the sources ttuuxxx.

I like the default options in the old freememapplet, then I modified this tray version to add Right click menu for lxpanel, Time&Date and Partview. Also changed the text memory description for the actual pupmode, something I wanted long time ago to avoid confusion between RAM memory, pup_save and Hard Disk free space.

You can use stock icons for menu items instead of labels (I included the necessary code but it´s commented), you also can remove the "Exit" button too if you want, just remove any menuitemExit code and trayExit function.

Greetings,
clarf

P.D: I would like to test the network-tray too...

#3856 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 14 Sep 2010, 06:14

clarf wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Here's the latest freememory app that Barry came up with, I didn't like the original graphics so I changed them , Only the best for 2.14x users
enjoy
ttuuxxx
Thanks for including the sources ttuuxxx.

I like the default options in the old freememapplet, then I modified this tray version to add Right click menu for lxpanel, Time&Date and Partview. Also changed the text memory description for the actual pupmode, something I wanted long time ago to avoid confusion between RAM memory, pup_save and Hard Disk free space.

You can use stock icons for menu items instead of labels (I included the necessary code but it´s commented), you also can remove the "Exit" button too if you want, just remove any menuitemExit code and trayExit function.

Greetings,
clarf

P.D: I would like to test the network-tray too...

Thanks clarf I'll add it

ttuuxxx

cbs · #3857 Post by **cbs** » Wed 15 Sep 2010, 01:11

Puppy 4.3.2 and other Puppy 4 versions automatically recognises the SMC 2632Wv.2 pcmcia wireless network card on my old notebook. It uses the atmel_cs module.
However, Puppy 214x Top3 does not detect my pcmcia card on startup. When manually loading the atmel_cs module, it does not detect any interface with the card.
I am newbie with Linux and would appreciate any guidance if I have done it wrongly.
Thanks!
___________________________
Compaq Armada M300 (P3-600MHz, 320MB ram, frugal install)

clarf · #3858 Post by **clarf** » Fri 17 Sep 2010, 18:22

Hi ttuuxxx,

I tried to enable Composite manager on metacity, using:

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gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager --type bool true

But I get the error:

undefined symbol XcompositeGetOverlayWindow

Did you compile metacity with compositing enabled?. Do you have a metacity pet with this enabled?

Thanks you,
clarf

mrreality13 · #3859 Post by **mrreality13** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 02:14

duplacate sorry

maxpro4u · #3860 Post by **maxpro4u** » Sat 02 Oct 2010, 23:14

I tried to do a full install and when I rebooted there were no entries for linux. What is the correct format for menu.lst. I tried to just use the menu.lst for 5.1.1 but it must be different because it did not work.

this is from 5.1.1. What do I need to change?

# Start GRUB global section
timeout 10
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal pnpbios=off
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Other bootable partition config begins
# Other bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)

sorry if this was answered before but I could not find it.

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