Thunderbird 8.0 Released and Eudora OSE 1.0 on way out

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heads up 431 and luci209 builds

#21 Post by scsijon »

1- 431 version build
- a problem has ocurred where it is asking for lib's that it has internally
- I am totally rebuilding the partition and it tomorrow from scratch as the parn has been played with, i think for too long, and has become unstable.
>update> on hold, lib problem intermittant, starting build from scratch to prove to me whether it's me or package.

2- luci209 version
- built and installs cleanly and runs
- will test this weekend and if no issues will upload to my limited access website sunday night for your tests
>update> testing ok at present, if still ok tomorrow, will load up with a link tuesday night (my time) is some 13meg as rc1 has some debugging still in it.

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>updates> as above

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update2

#22 Post by scsijon »

431 version on hold for next 48hrs, lib problem intermittant although it actually runs ok, may just release with a warning.

luci209 version has been/is being passed to playdayz for his testing and if no problems, it should then appear in the PPM.

I have just completed testing it against 210. no problems found

JUST A REMINDER TO REBOOT AFTER INSTALLING and before using the first time, plus give it time to setup your /root/.thunderbird directory when you first click on the icon, it takes about a minute to do that!

reminder that it has a problem topic in the bugs area, please use that, not this topic for bugs. Link is:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 509#432509

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#23 Post by scsijon »

ok

rc1 is out, see the top post for its location

our only problem seems to be where the ppm expects the libs to be, so ignore the missing libs warning, it should run ok anyway and make sure you give it time to create your .thunderbird profile, it does usually take a good minute to do it all, even on a fast machine.

i'm working with getting rc2 up and ready now, it should only overwrite what needs to be when installed, but the usual warning so backup your hidden /root/.thunderbird directory, you can copy it back afterwards if yours has been corrupted.

problem to the bugs topic please as both I and the eudora team is monitoring that one, not this one for problems.

have fun

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#24 Post by Jim1911 »

scsijon,

Thanks for sticking with it and producing this eudora_rc1.pet. It works great. :D

One serious problem is it's use of the hidden file .thunderbird for it's profile information. Can this be changed to .eudora or .Penelope? Really messes up the use of Thunderbird which was the previous best e-mail choice for Linux and has too much info to be discarded. Should this be reported to the eudora team as a bug? :(

Looking forward to rc2.

Thanks again,
Jim :D

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OSEv1 RC2

#25 Post by scsijon »

Eudora OSEv1 RC2 has been built and tested through to completion.

It can be installed over a rc1 pet (usual caveat here) as it only alters the /opt/eudora directory content and not your /root/.thunderbird

Versions built so far are for/with:
- 4.3.1/2
- wary
- 511
-squeeze/zen

If you want others please ask (with reason please why a current one won't do, as testing is quite thorough and takes a lot of time) and i'll see what I can add it.

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#26 Post by Jim1911 »

I stated above that, one serious problem is it's use of the hidden file .thunderbird for it's profile information. Can this be changed to .eudora or .Penelope? Really messes up the use of Thunderbird which was the previous best e-mail choice for Linux and has too much info to be discarded. Should this be reported to the eudora team as a bug?

I should have corrected this earlier, actually the use of .thunderbird by both Eudora and Thunderbird is a great feature. Neither mess up the use of it and both are able to use it without any problem.

Thanks for continuing to develop Eudora and sharing it with us.

Cheers,
Jim

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Eudora Portable

#27 Post by Dingo »

Also Eudora, like Thunderbird, Firefox and Seamonkey can be made portable with this script (place into directory where eudora-bin resides and launch from it)

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh
#Version 0.0.5
#Put together by Alexander S.T. Ross (abushcrafter)
#Based on the luncher from: https://www.privacyfoundation.de/wiki/PortableLinuxApps
#Also based on the luncher from: http://portools.com/apps/iceweasel-portable
#

######### Dingo's addition to script - http://dokupuppylinux.co.cc/
if test -d profile ; then
printf "directory already exists\n"
else
mkdir -p profile/chrome
cat << EOF > profile/chrome/userChrome.css
/*
 * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct functioning
 */
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* set default namespace to XUL */


/*
 * Some possible accessibility enhancements:
 */
/*
 * Make all the default font sizes 20 pt:
 *
 * * {
 *   font-size: 20pt !important
 * }
 */

 * {
   font-size: 9pt !important;
   font-family: DejaVu Sans !important;
 }
/*   font-family: nimbus !important;*/

/*
 * Make menu items in particular 15 pt instead of the default size:
 *
 * menupopup > * {
 *   font-size: 15pt !important
 * }
 */

/*BK experimenting...
menupopup > * {
  font-size: 12pt !important
}
menu > * {
  font-size: 12pt !important
}
*/

/*
 * Give the Location (URL) Bar a fixed-width font
 *
 * #urlbar {
 *    font-family: monospace !important;
 * }
 */

/*
 * Eliminate the throbber and its annoying movement:
 *
 * #throbber-box {
 *   display: none !important;
 * }
 */

/*
 * For more examples see http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
 */
EOF
fi
#if test -f /etc/fonts/local.conf.zip ; then
#printf "backup  file already exists\n"
#else
#zip /etc/fonts/local.conf.zip /etc/fonts/local.conf
#cat << EOF > /etc/fonts/local.conf
#<?xml version="1.0"?>
#<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
#<!-- /etc/fonts/local.conf file for local customizations -->
#<fontconfig>
#<!--
  #Enable sub-pixel rendering
   #<match target="font">
      #<test qual="all" name="rgba">
         #<const>unknown</const>
      #</test>
      #<edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
   #</match>
#-->
        #<alias>
                #<family>sans-serif</family>
                #<prefer>
                        #<family>DejaVu Sans</family>
                #</prefer>
        #</alias>
#</fontconfig>
#EOF
#fi

#if test -f /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 ; then
#printf "file already exists\n"
#else
#petget +.extralibs/libdbus-glib-1-2_0.76-1_i386.deb
#fi

#if test -f /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 ; then
#printf "file already exists\n"
#else
#petget +.extralibs/libdbus-1-3_1.2.1-5+lenny1_i386.deb
#fi
######## end of additions

export app="eudora"
export version="rc2"

echo "Welcome to the Linux version of $app $version in portable mode. Feedback is NOT disabled."
dir=${0%/*}
if [ "$dir" = "$0" ]; then
  dir="."
fi
HOME=${dir}/profile
cd "$dir"
#Remove the "#" from the next line to disable error output.
exec ./$app -no-remote -profile "./profile" $@ #2>/dev/null
if menu fonts look too small, you can uncomment commented part of code
replace .co.cc with .info to get access to stuff I posted in forum
dropbox 2GB free
OpenOffice for Puppy Linux

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#28 Post by scsijon »

Jim, I answered in the bugs thread, but basically the Eudora people are not willing to do this, it will be both too complicated and break what their trying to end up with. See that thread for their answer please.

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#29 Post by Jim1911 »

scsijon wrote:Jim, I answered in the bugs thread, but basically the Eudora people are not willing to do this, it will be both too complicated and break what their trying to end up with. See that thread for their answer please.
I believe that you misunderstood my modified comment. Actually using .thunderbird for both Eudora and Thunderbird is a great feature since both programs can read from it without any problem. I was wrong. :oops:

Eudora is now my main e-mail program, looking forward to rc2.

Thanks,
Jim

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#30 Post by scsijon »

I am pleased to announce that Eudora OSE V1.0 has reached release.

I shall be packaging this weekend (after elections) and testing next week so pets should be available next weekend(5-6 Dec). I also have a website and plan to put them up there until they appear in the tree.

Bugs left are being managed, but shouldn't effect us as they are mainly :roll: windows related. :roll: not Puppy.

Links on my webpage will have the pets to start with until the Puppy tree maintainers have the time to put them up there.

However, it's a smart idea to do a full backup of all your mailboxes and preferences files before doing the upgrade, as we have been warned that "in place" upgrades may have problems.

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#31 Post by scsijon »

Sorry for the delay, but a problem or two has had to be fixed.

For 431 users, the version is now out!

For 5.1 / 5.2 users, I have managed to create a working Eudora OSE V1.0 (lucid) with luci246 that I am happy with (no problems found for new users/installers).
It can be found on my site at: http://www.lamiaworks.com.au/puppy_eudora.html.

For Wary Users, I have not been able to get a working package so far, I suspect something is missing so are working through each individual package requirement to see what's been left out. Consider it a w.i.p. with a Jan 5 deadline. -update found missing lib is the problem, chasing a pet.

For ALL existing Eudora users, you should backup/copy your hidden /root/.thunderbird directory for safety, then you can either uninstall the old RC1/2 versions and install this one, or just install this one over what is already there as it's smart enough to "update".

all problems to the bugs thread please, not here.

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#32 Post by scsijon »

For wary users the package is now out, there are two additional dependancies needed, I have added them to the directory.

http://www.lamiaworks.com.au/puppy_eudora.html

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#33 Post by tlchost »

Which one should I use for Quirky1.2?

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OSE's future is unknown

#34 Post by scsijon »

From Qualcomm's Eudora Site:
---------------------------------------
To get involved with the development of open source version of Eudora, be sure to visit the Penelope page at Mozilla.

The EMS API is no longer available for the development of Eudora plug-ins.
-----------------------------------------
This means others cannot work on Eudora OSE

And:

the below has been copied from jhmyers (our linux Eudora contact) from the Eudora Forum.
--------------------------------------
08-18-2011, 05:08 PM
jhmeyers
Senior Member

OSE's future is unknown

Don't raise your expectations too high about future OSE developments, given that nothing has been updated since OSE 1.0 (July 2010) and no comments have been made in response to questions about whether OSE will ever catch up to later versions of Thunderbird (OSE 1.0 is unfortunately based on a somewhat buggy TB version, and TB has continued to be extensively modified since that time).

You could, however, start using TB at any time,
since TB works with all the same user files as OSE.
----------------------------------

Between them, i've thought them now serious enough to put here.

I'm not happy but at least v1.0 still works ok for most things.

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#35 Post by scsijon »

There have been requests for a wary52 version.

I shall build one and put it on my site in a day or two (mon-tue) after my basic testing process on it has been completed!

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#36 Post by ttuuxxx »

the wary http://www.lamiaworks.com.au/puppy/eudo ... -V1-w5.pet version was renamed without renaming the folder EudoraOSE-V1 to EudoraOSE-V1-w5 and then rebuilding the pet, This causes a install error error on 2.14X, so all I did was rename the pet from EudoraOSE-V1-w5 to EudoraOSE-V1 and it installed fine on 2.14X, it did complain about missing a few gnome libs but it still slowly started and looked ok.
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#37 Post by scsijon »

please note top message on page 1

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#38 Post by darkcity »

hi, i've re-formatted the Wiki page, hope that's cool.

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Eudora

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