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nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9476 Location: SwedenEurope

Hahahah Paul you should have told me that one year ago and I had not bought the Acer 10 inch screen Nettop I used now and not the two android smartphones either.

I bought these to use at open spots to check emails and forum entries when me travel.

Jasper · Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 889 Location: England

Hi,

For those who are not already aware - Firefox 3.6.12 (with a security fix) is available today if you need it.

My regards

My apology - I have now put this message in a new thread in this section.

Flash · Posted: Tue 02 Nov 2010, 23:51 Post_subject:

Here's an interview of the creator of the Evercookie, Samy Kamkar. Very instructive.

jpeps · Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449

In short, a challenge to act against the best interests and desires of the owner of the computer; very stupid and at best, bad business.

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9476 Location: SwedenEurope

Hope I am not too naive.

What one need to do then is some program that recognize when an Evercookie is about to be set and that that program just pretend that all works by giving faked confirmation all has been set up and as the evercookie wants it but in reality that sites evercookie is blacklisted in some list so it is not set next time either?

Does it help to do like some told us that they made an ever updated pupsave.

so when one start anew in the morning the pupsave of yesterday get scrapped and the backup are loaded and that way nothing that did happen change that backup?

One store things one want to keep like email and html pages and pics and muic outside of pupsave and only reuse a never write to back up that is reused again and again?

I guess those that use a CD with puppy is like that

for us with frugal they can write anything to our HDD I guess.

One would need a program that looked for evercookies and be able to erase them. .

jpeps · Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2449

PaulBx1 · Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA

Bruce B · Posted: Thu 04 Nov 2010, 19:50 Post_subject:

I hope in this post to make the Evercookie seem less fearsome,
more understandable and very easy for us Puppy users to clean up.

- Macromedia Super Cookies

Websites can use your macromedia flash files to track you across multiple
domains. Flash is not a part of your browser and it doesn't have
controls over the data Macromedia stores.

We have control!

/root/.macromedia is the parent directory where the data is stored. If you
don't want to be tracked by the content in those sub-directories, delete
the parent.

Edited to add: it will recreate itself, so the deleting should be part of your
normal keeping things clean routine. The recreating itself means it will make
new directories and store new data. Once deleted the previous data is
history.

I mention the /root/.macromedia directory because it is a portion of the
technology the Evercookie uses

- Silverlight isolated storage

I'm not even using it. To the extent the rest of us are not using it, there is
no Silverlight exploit.

- HTML5 - Various Storage Locations

Don't kill me with fearsome generalities. We are running specific operating
systems and browsers.

The OS here is Puppy Linux. The browser is SeaMonkey. (or whatever the
user or puplet installed)

SeaMonkey stores its cache under the parent directory /root/.mozilla in a
directory called Cache

Every time we empty the Cache we also empty the supposed but
non-existent various HTML5 storage locations.

- Clearing your private data

Google is main sponsor for Mozilla. Need I say more?

Google doesn't seem to believe in deleting data, not in my opinion. Don't
play fool to thinking setting your Mozilla browser really deletes data by using
browser settings.

If we are serious about deleting private data, write a script to delete the
*.sqlite files in the profile directory.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

End of post. The Evercookie is gone as well as a lot of other tracking
information stored on YOUR PERSONAL computer.

~

PaulBx1 · Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA

Bruce, you mentioned the sqlite files before. I guess I don't understand how you can delete all of them, since that includes (for example) signon.sqlite. I couldn't function without site login information stored in the browser. No way I could remember every login.

Bruce B · Posted: Thu 04 Nov 2010, 23:50 Post_subject:

droope · Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 814 Location: Uruguay, Mercedes

Hiya

Cookies are no way evil...

or harmful...

Just information being stored. Smile

Aaanyway, noscript + blocking flash kills evercookies. Smile

Regards,
Droope

Bruce B · Posted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 00:15 Post_subject:

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9476 Location: SwedenEurope

And if one turn of java then many sites refuse to let one make a comment or write in their forum or to read the text until one allow at least the major Ad provider to show their ad and then one see the text one look for.

So it is not easy. I try to use NoScript in FireFox but Opera and Chrome have their own Ad blockers and those are too difficult for me to learn how to use.

So I am kind of locked to use FireFox and as far as I know they have no addon yet for an EverCookie?

But are EverCookie being used now on many sites? First I thought that almost every big site used them and now I rad that it is only a concept a guy showed off and almost none use them but that in the future maybe a lot of sites would?