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#41 Post by nooby »

I tested again with a new download of lupq511 and it went directly to kernel panic while lupu235 worked and puppy studio 3.1 non-realtime worked but pstudio 31 with runtime did go to panic but Dpup 09 works.

So would appreciate if someone give a clue on what is the difference?

Is it the kernels that differ and that explain why it goes to panic?
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#42 Post by sc0ttman »

I love this puplet.. With a few tweaks ;) I have LupQ511

(I add Clearlooks GTK theme and the blue icon theme).. Much nicer imho :)

Anyway... I love this but am having a few problems..

I'm having some issues with a frugal install to NTFS (windows partition) hard drive on two machines!

I'd like to use the exe installer (or any other recommended method) to add a frugal install to my XP partition - for easy dual boot..

I know the exe method is not good, but I was lazy..

Issue 1: On my PC I have the frugal install on the NTFS HD partition and want to put the savefile on a FAT partition, USB stick..

On my PC, The "Lin n Win" method works fine, puppy boots. However, the save file is not being found.. although I know it is being created and filled correctly. I can't find anything that fixes this!

I tried various locations for the save file, even making copies, and no go!

Issue 2: On my Eee PC (1000HA), using the exe installer, I can't even boot LupQ - I get an error message about uncompression, when initrd.gz is being uncompressed (I think)..

Any anyone have any ideas of known issues or fixes? Thanks.
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#43 Post by shinobar »

nooby wrote:I tested again with a new download of lupq511 and it went directly to kernel panic while lupu235 worked and puppy studio 3.1 non-realtime worked but pstudio 31 with runtime did go to panic but Dpup 09 works.
Try 'pfix=ram' or 'safe mode'.
If no problem with it, and the problem is the lupqsave, boot with 'pfix=fsck'.
If the lupqsave is not fixed, abort it and make new lupqsave from 'pfix=ram' or 'safe mode'.
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savefile on another partition

#44 Post by shinobar »

sc0ttman wrote:Issue 1: On my PC I have the frugal install on the NTFS HD partition and want to put the savefile on a FAT partition, USB stick..

On my PC, The "Lin n Win" method works fine, puppy boots. However, the save file is not being found.. although I know it is being created and filled correctly. I can't find anything that fixes this!

I tried various locations for the save file, even making copies, and no go!
If you are using grub4dos, find menu.lst at /mnt/dsa1 or /mnt/home.
Edit the menu.lst by the text editer(geany).
Find the next entry ('Puppy-Linux-511' is the folder name. Yours may be different name).

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title lupq-511 on Windows
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz
  kernel /Puppy-Linux-511/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=Puppy-Linux-511
  initrd /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz
Remove the 'pmedia' and 'psubdir' options. That is:

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title lupq-511 on Windows
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz
  kernel /Puppy-Linux-511/vmlinuz
  initrd /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz
The 'pmedia' and 'psubdir' options restrict the search scope for the savefile.
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#45 Post by shinobar »

sc0ttman wrote:Issue 2: On my Eee PC (1000HA), using the exe installer, I can't even boot LupQ - I get an error message about uncompression, when initrd.gz is being uncompressed (I think)..
Do you mean the Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-edition-511-Installer.exe?
Try re-install.

Uninstall from the 'All program' menu on the Windows. You can find the Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-edition uninstaller.

Clean up the drive 'C:'. Recommended 640MB free space, 200MB at least.
Run deflag the drive 'C:'. It may take long long time, can be a whole night.

Donload the Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-edition-511-Installer.exe again.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/lupq/
md5checksum: 6c7dba6b5dfe49a09ee785ce3dc22b36.
Run the installer again.

If you can boot up LupQ-511, you can delete the installer exe.
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#46 Post by nooby »

Shinobar no the safe mode did not help.

If I test the Find set root option that makes it find older versions of saved such tests. That is kind of a randomness intruded? But I test to see what happens. I get back when I know more. But maybe it get solved by lupu236?




It seems to be something about the lupu235 as such and that the error also existed in the one yo umade lupq from.

I try to find link it is here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 328#464328

texts says
Barry helped me figure out why it was not booting correctly. So that is something to look forward to
sure it is about mplayer acting oddly but he mention the booting problem indirectly to also get solved in next version.

could it not be what I have experienced
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#47 Post by shinobar »

nooby wrote:I tested again with a new download of lupq511 and it went directly to kernel panic
You did boot from the lupq511 live CD with safe mode, but got kernel panic, right?
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#48 Post by nooby »

Nope from HDD 250GB hard drive frugal install and

sorry me is booting lupu 511 version 235 and not lupQ but lupq has same booting error and I got no solution asking about lupu234 and hoped you would understand what is going on.

this time I booted with the following menu.lst from SDA3
title lupu234test without wine panic=300 debug
root (hd0,2)
kernel /lupu234t/vmlinuz root=UUID=xxxxxxxxxx psubdir=lupu234t pfix=fsck panic=300 debug
initrd /lupu234t/initrd.gz
by adding panic=300 debug it takes longer time but hopefully me can see a pattern of what it hangs on.

I am not sure of if it "panic" but it stop at Loading drivers at five dots in first line instead of adding the 6 and 7 dots there.

Last time me had the error it said it was something with b43

I write x to not give away the unique hardware number to expoliters.

Ubuntu gave it that name when it did wubi install of ubuntu 9
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#49 Post by shinobar »

title lupu234test without wine panic=300 debug
root (hd0,2)
kernel /lupu234t/vmlinuz root=UUID=xxxxxxxxxx psubdir=lupu234t pfix=fsck panic=300 debug
initrd /lupu234t/initrd.gz
Remove the 'root=' paramater for frugal install.(You installed frugal, sure?)
And also try RAM mode(pfix=ram).

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title		lupu234test without wine
root		(hd0,2)
kernel		/lupu234t/vmlinuz psubdir=lupu234t pfix=fsck
initrd		/lupu234t/initrd.gz

title		lupu234test RAM only
root		(hd0,2)
kernel		/lupu234t/vmlinuz psubdir=lupu234t pfix=ram
initrd		/lupu234t/initrd.gz
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#50 Post by nooby »

Hahah, you right and me wrong. Surprise because as I said. The only way to boot other OS was to include the UUID. But now it booted without it.

So I will try without the uuid to see which linux os needs it and whom not.
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#51 Post by piratesmack »

charlie6 wrote: lupq meets most of what I was desiring for !
Same here

Thanks, shinobar

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#52 Post by nooby »

shinobar , thanks for all effort you put into this.

Edit. If I use pfix=ram then it always boot. But then I have no access to all the emails and bookmarks and so on.

So i need to learn how to make a pupsave that can import these from the HDD and not needs to be rebuilt each time me change to a new distro.

I did know how to some months ago through the help from kind members but have no forgotten all about how to do it.

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I have no idea really but I wild guess that there is something odd because if I only have

safe mode

then it still can fail to boot. Not every time but often.

If I only have debug then it also can fail at booting but not every time

But if it combine them then it very seldom fail at booting.


so that is why me wild guess it has to do with timing.

Now when 236 are available I will see how that one behave.
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wacom tablet works

#53 Post by don570 »

I was able to get my wacom Bamboo tablet to work
perfectly now. the pressure settings are persistent now.
I describe here...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=165

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#54 Post by bodbozzle »

An older "AMD Thunderbird -PC" with an orphaned XP and no working CD-drive,
could be easily revived due to the
Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-511-installer.exe.
:)
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Re: wacom tablet works

#55 Post by sc0ttman »

don570 wrote:I was able to get my wacom Bamboo tablet to work
perfectly now. ..
Lovely, thanks very much... Gonna try it today :)
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Windows Installer

#56 Post by shinobar »

bodbozzle wrote:An older "AMD Thunderbird -PC" with an orphaned XP and no working CD-drive,
could be easily revived due to the
Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-511-installer.exe.
Thanks for the good news, bodbozzle :!:

We are still calling for your report regarding the Windows Installer > to all
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Re: Windows Installer

#57 Post by sc0ttman »

shinobar wrote:We are still calling for your report regarding the Windows Installer > to all
I had no problems with the .exe installer on my PC.. It would not boot on my EEE PC, gave an error and stopped, when uppacking the initrd.gz

On my PC:

I installed LupQ with the exe installer to an NTFS windows partition, booted fine, grub worked, no hard drive issues (which I was warned about on NTFS!)

However, I know that installing and booting Puppy from NTFS in not recommended, so I got found an old hard drive and formatted to ext3, then used the LupQ liveCD with frugall installer to install to my new HDD.

It's a lot faster on ext3, and so I uninstalled the .exe LupQ installer from my windows system/partition, but it worked fine.
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#58 Post by nooby »

I know that installing and booting Puppy from NTFS in not recommended
But we are very many now that have done so for years and it works very good.

I have three computers and list them in my signatur and all of them have at least ten different puppies on them and all of them have frugal install on NTFS and it just works.

So is this not a very old recommendation? Or that it is for full install that it is not recommended?

For dual booting with windows it is the best thing if one have a brand new machine. If one have an old then one can chose to format it for linux but if you have to dual boot then NTFS for frugal is totally okay. ?
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#59 Post by shinobar »

nooby wrote:I have three computers and list them in my signatur and all of them have at least ten different puppies on them and all of them have frugal install on NTFS and it just works.
What boot loader are you using, nooby?
I remember you have never been using grub4dos...
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Re: Windows Installer

#60 Post by shinobar »

sc0ttman wrote:I had no problems with the .exe installer on my PC.. It would not boot on my EEE PC, gave an error and stopped, when uppacking the initrd.gz

On my PC:

I installed LupQ with the exe installer to an NTFS windows partition, booted fine, grub worked, no hard drive issues (which I was warned about on NTFS!)

However, I know that installing and booting Puppy from NTFS in not recommended, so I got found an old hard drive and formatted to ext3, then used the LupQ liveCD with frugall installer to install to my new HDD.

It's a lot faster on ext3, and so I uninstalled the .exe LupQ installer from my windows system/partition, but it worked fine.
Thanks for testing.
Like to confirm:
You have 2 PC, 'my PC' and 'EEE PC', right?
You ran the installer.exe both on the 2 PC's.
The former 'my PC' got success, but the latter 'EEE PC' failed, right?
Will you tell me what Windows version of the both?
Do you have any idea why the latter 'EEE PC' failed?

You are right you avoid NTFS but frugal install on ext3.
NTFS works but ext3 is better.
I have too ext3 partition with many folder for Puppy's frugal installation.
I have NTFS partition with Windows and frugal installed Puppy only for test purpose.
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