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Jim1911

Joined: 19 May 2008
Posts: 2445
Location: Texas, USA

PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 17:52    Post subject: Re: Out of space
Subject description: Full install problem
 

shinobar wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:
Unusual problem for a full hd installation to run out of space. Apparently, there is some confusion as to available ram as opposed to available hd space.

The number the task tray shows is complex. Barry add more informations on the Freemem applet.
  1. Check your PUPMODE:
    Code:
    cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE

  2. Mounted speces:
    Code:
    df -m

  3. Free memory and swap:
    Code:
    free
They give a hint.
I've rebooted since I posted the problem which may affect the results below:
Code:
# cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE
PUPMODE=2
ATADRIVES='sda sdb '
PUP_HOME='/'
# df -m
Filesystem           1M-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   24121      5696     17200  25% /
/dev/root                24121      5696     17200  25% /
shmfs                      755         0       755   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb3                79237     27211     48002  37% /mnt/sdb3
/dev/sdb1                79237     15271     59942  21% /mnt/sdb1
# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:      3105852      2876360       229492            0        23908
 Swap:      4607992            0      4607992
Total:      7713844      2876360      4837484
#
Results above are with sdb7 unmounted, below sdb7 is mounted.
Code:
# cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE
PUPMODE=2
ATADRIVES='sda sdb '
PUP_HOME='/'
# df -m
Filesystem           1M-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   24121      6993     15903  31% /
/dev/root                24121      6993     15903  31% /
shmfs                      755         0       755   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb3                79237     27211     48002  37% /mnt/sdb3
/dev/sdb1                79237     15271     59942  21% /mnt/sdb1
/dev/sdb7                24121      6993     15903  31% /mnt/sdb7
# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:      3105852      3016556        89296            0         8304
 Swap:      4607992            0      4607992
Total:      7713844      3016556      4697288
#
Does this tell you anything? Should I make sure that sdb7 is mounted when the full installation is in use?

Thanks,
Jim
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 17:52    Post subject:  

I added facebook chat plugin to Pidgin 2.7.7, together 2.7 mb.

Thanks to blind_alley of the missing lib tip.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pidgin-and-facebookchat-2.7.7.pet
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 18:24    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of Luci-240 on the old P3 test box. On initial boot everything worked....internet,sound and screen resolution. Installed Xorg_High and SeaMonkey. Ran for about 30 minutes and rebooted.Sound muted.
Guess I'll try the zzz pet. Laughing
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 18:36    Post subject:  

Installed zzz pet. Sound still muted every reboot.
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 18:49    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Installed zzz pet. Sound still muted every reboot.


James C: Fortunately, with Luci-240 no rebooting is necessary Very Happy
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 19:41    Post subject:  

Did a manual upgrade of Luci/Trinity 239 to 240............only problem..........you guessed it, muted sound on reboot. Laughing
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 19:47    Post subject:  

Playdayz,
Recommend build the next Luci without 'zzz'. After all, it is experimental still, that is why it is in Quirky.

Build a normal system, and you will be likely to get more direct help from rerwin, regarding any sound or 3G modem issues.

My zzz package replaces a couple of rerwin's scripts, which is why he cannot be so helpful with debugging.

'zzz' should be considered at this stage as a fallback to try if you have insoluble problem with muted sound or 3G modem.

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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 20:08    Post subject:  

Yes Barry, I already have luci-241pre with the original scripts and will post it later tonight or tomorrow.

But I have noticed that in *both* luci-240 (zzz_scripts) and 241pre (original scripts) that the volume shown in retrovol is changed on reboot. I can set it to Master 50% and Front 50% and on reboot, in both luci's, Master becomes 100% and Front becomes 0%. I have never paid attention to this before, and the sound is not muted in either version but the levels are changed as I describe.

Back with pix. Well, after is on top, before rebooting and after. Is this what people have been seeing? I see it both with the original and the zzz_scdripts. Again I have never paid attention to this before so it could be normal....
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 20:22    Post subject:  

I used Retrovol and had working sound. Then on reboot muted sound and....
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 20:32    Post subject:  

Had sound while making last post,not on reboot.Before and after shots.

FWIW, no problems in Quirky 140 on the same test boxes.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 20:49    Post subject:  

I just tested and luci-239 does not change the volume levels in retrovol, but luci-240 (zzz_scripts) and luci-241pre (original scripts) *both* change the volume levels.

Does that suggest the problem is not with either set of scripts, but somewhere else in the latest Woof (which was first applied to luci-240--luci-239 had the previous Woof)? Or, in both sets of scripts.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 21:43    Post subject:  

While we're having fun.. Wink

To address bigpup's (and probably a bunch more user's) issue of not selecting the correct graphics driver I am completely rewriting the graphics test.. much simpler. It's more like Barry's video_upgrade_wizard now which I believe is more accurate at selecting the correct driver.. (oh, bigpup.. I found the correct database for your card Wink .. 173.XX ). The good thing is that no one will notice anything except that they will have the correct selection made for them!

This will be part of the latest quickpet when available (later today).

Cheers

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gabe

Joined: 03 Apr 2009
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Location: Minnesota, USA

PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 22:59    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:



Code:
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     |_____/  |______|   /_/      \_\    \__/    |______|   |__| \__\ 
     


Whaaaaaaaaaaat?!? ... your beaver's showing. Wink
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 23:10    Post subject:  

Something else I noticed about the audio volume when rebooted. Many people have been getting muted sound. I have not had that but I have noticed that the volumes are changed when rebooting--two messages above.

I have now noticed that the volume on the third audio card is *not* changed when rebooting--it's volume is preserved just as is. (My second card is not really a sound card.)

So how come it is doing things to the first audio card only?
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Dave_B

Joined: 02 Aug 2010
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Location: Idaho, USA

PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 23:28    Post subject: Luci-240  

I've recently updated my P3 machine from 238 to 240 (full install). Everything works great so far! I don't have any sound issues and all my files and bookmarks were preserved.

Dave
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