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[Nican Tlaca]

[Nican Tlaca]

[willem1940NLD]

(*.wmv)

Added Mplayer again. Opening from menu o.k now. Firefox doesnt see, just uses MPlayer .....

Installed Firefox Addon Mediaplayer Connectivity. Mplayer, but mention: "New Face Failed ..." click o.k, extra "DVD-player(!)" comes in.

Confusing to me, but *.wmv video so far seems better, more stable than before, no parttime blurrings seen yet.

All a bit complicated, but will keep it this way for the time being.

[willem1940NLD]

Pity. Found old 'tricky" wmv streams back on web, that in the good old days got a remark by VLC and were played without sound ... now totally refused.

Uninstalling Firefox Addon Mediaplayer Connectivity which in my experience does not like "plugins" (don't know how to uninstall existing plugins Gxine & Mplayer).

No substantial improvements so far.

[Nican Tlaca]

[willem1940NLD]

Maybe/maybenot; lost count and meanwhile removed everything "vlc" ... not the first time and not my first distro.

Think i really better wait till ALSA -,-,24 is available.

Edit: no, it was this link

[Shep]

I've been looking for a lighter mediaplayer for Dpup, and I found that this VLC pet installs and plays mp3s without a hitch. I did some tests to compare its use of resources with that of mplayer. I ran VLC from the commandline and mplayer from its GUI.

For an mp3, top showed VLC using 12% CPU and 17% MEM and mplayer using 14% CPU and 5% MEM (and bmp used 18% CPU and 8% MEM).

But I need help in interpreting the results from Puppy's htop ....

The Puppy Process Manager uses htop and showed only 1 process for mplayer, viz., gmplayer
but nine VLC processes while running VLC. The highest VLC process was using 18% CPU and 3.2% MEM, the next used from 3% to 5% CPU and 3.2% MEM and the remainder were as shown below. Should I add all of these together to find the total usage by VLC, or would this be counting some resources multiple times?

CPU[||||||| 16.8%] Tasks: 59 total, 2 running
Mem[||||||||||||||||||||||||||||121/629MB] Load average: 0.55 0.43 0.38
Swp[| 0/1466MB] Uptime: 09:43:21

PID USER PRI NI VIRT RES SHR S CPU% MEM% TIME+ Command
20172 root 19 -1 108M 20564 13836 R 18.0 3.2 0:01.81 vlc November_Rain
20171 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 3.0 3.2 0:00.45 vlc November_Rain
17954 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 2.0 3.2 0:14.97 vlc November_Rain
20170 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.04 vlc November_Rain
17955 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.56 vlc November_Rain
17957 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.19 vlc November_Rain
17956 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.14 vlc November_Rain
17959 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.12 vlc November_Rain
17958 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.06 vlc November_Rain

Regardless, it seems that the installed mplayer is little different from VLC in its CPU loading but mplayer uses much less memory, at least when playing mp3s. I tried an mp4 video clip that works with mplayer, but VLC complains: no suitable decoder module for fourcc 'avc1'

Edit: just out of interest, I started mplayer from the CLI and top shows mplayer using 0% CPU and 4% MEM so I guess this means mplayer is already among the lightest mmplayers?

[Dennola4]

ttuuxx,

I have just ended a thread which began with me trying to use your VLC PET to watch Apple Movie trailers (and other .mov files available only as RTSP streams). You're welcome to read it, but its wordy as hell:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58767

The conclusion is that I would need your VLC pet (vlc-0.8.6h-engv5-1) recompiled with live555:
http://www.live555.com/liveMedia/public/

....and using the configure options:

[paulhomebus]

Just in-case anybody was wondering....

This seems to be solved...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=445781#445781

If so please mark it solved, and update your first post in this thread

Puppylover 4 eva...
Paul

[Dennola4]

I've noticed that I can watch Apple Trailers, but still can't seem to stream RTSP.

Would still like (love, actually) a VLC PET built with live555 -- hence the request.

Not sure which will come first -- one magically appears or I learn how to do it myself. We'll see.

[tempestuous]

Well you could try the older version of VLC I contributed back in 2007 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13863
This was definitely compiled with LIVE555 support.

In an attempt to clear up potential confusion over this subject:
the video stream you mentioned in your earlier thread
rtsp://qss.itc.virginia.edu/itc-pubs/when-I-go-to-UVA-lg.mov
is from a LIVE555 server, and it does require explicit LIVE555 support in the media player application.

But movie trailers from Apple do not require LIVE555 support, in fact they require no special streaming support (such as RTSP) at all !!
This is because the movie trailers on Apple's site are all just normal HTTP links. They are not video streams!
Apple has deliberately chosen to use QuickTime progressive download instead of streaming.

[Dennola4]

tempestuous --

I sincerely appreciate your response. I think the confusion began for me when I noticed terms overlapping. "QT", for instance. Apparently it sometimes means a library of widgets written in C++ and used in the open source community to build GUIs, but sometimes it is an abbreviation for QuickTime, as in "QT file". Then there is the fact that a "QT file" is also an "MOV file", so follows the faulty reasoning:

"If this RTSP stream ends with ".mov", that means it is QuickTime file, which means that anything requiring a QuickTime plugin is a stream."

But as you are pointing out: nope. Not the case. In fact, Googling the subject yields this extremely clear illustration of the differences between HTTP and RTSP in simple language -- and whaddya know? It's written by one of the VLC devs.

http://www.remlab.net/op/vod.shtml

Anyway, I plan to give your VLC pet a whirl and would love help resolving how to stream RTSP.

And as a final note, now that I know that I technically CAN watch Apple Movie Trailers, I'd like to go on record having said, "BOOOOOOO.....APPLE!!!!! -- and offer this fine alternative site for watching super HD trailers:

http://www.traileraddict.com/

Thanks all for the help. Puppy people rock.

[paulhomebus]

You might wanna try this if you are using Lucid 5.1

It's gmplayer with all the codecs you could want, I believe it will stream RTSP,
among many others... (includes w32codecs, and non-free-codec packages)

But unfortunately it doesn't play well with JWM, so use it only in icewm, also I took out the .desktop file, so there's no menu entry.... just run from console type - gmplayer....

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57913

[Shep]

[vlcproblem]

Hello
i need to download the VLC package for Puppy 4.3.1 but all the download links in this thread end in a 404 Page not found error

does anybody have a link to download the PET package?

thanks a lot in advance