Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18

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#3021 Post by tubeguy »

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Compress further to taste. :wink:
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#3022 Post by James C »

Latest frugal install of Lupu-511 on another old P3. As mentioned in an earlier post, had an installer error,didn't copy the files to the hdd correctly so I copied them manually.
Everything was working on initial boot.


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 515

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810 GMCH (Graphics Memory Controller Hub)
Intel Corporation 82810 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
# glxgears
829 frames in 5.0 seconds
894 frames in 5.0 seconds
899 frames in 5.0 seconds
920 frames in 5.0 seconds
900 frames in 5.0 seconds
1398 frames in 5.0 seconds
1255 frames in 5.0 seconds
1485 frames in 5.0 seconds


-Computer-
Processor : Celeron (Coppermine)
Memory : 254MB (115MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.51
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 19 Dec 2010 05:25:09 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI i810 20050821 x86/MMX/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

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compiz + tde and XFCE

#3023 Post by smil99 »

einar wrote:
... love puppy and i have been playing with it since 232. the only problem i got is when i use compiz. it has been noted before by lobster i think. my windows are stuck / no wobble. there is not an "top bar" with x and minimize etz, ...
Emerald windows decorations can be problematic sometimes.
Try this:

Locate .xinitrc in /root (it is a hidden file) and replace:
"emerald --replace" (without quotes)
with:
"gtk-window-decorator --replace &" (without quotes)
at the "start compiz" section:

It should look like this finally:

#start compiz
if [[ "$CURRENTWM" != "jwm" && "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm" && "$CURRENTWM" != "openbox" && "$CURRENTWM" != "startfluxbox" ]];then
if [[ `which compiz` != "" ]];then LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace --indirect-rendering --sm-disable ccp gtk-window-decorator --replace &
sleep 3
fi
fi

instead of:
#start compiz
if [[ "$CURRENTWM" != "jwm" && "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm" && "$CURRENTWM" != "openbox" && "$CURRENTWM" != "startfluxbox" ]];then
if [[ `which compiz` != "" ]];then LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace --indirect-rendering --sm-disable ccp emerald --replace &
sleep 3
fi
fi

Hope this helps.

Cheers.

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#3024 Post by Lobster »

liked that
Started optimising and got the enclosed which should be neutral and unobtrusive, display even black text, use the logo and version number and only 19k
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yaf-splash

#3025 Post by shinobar »

Frugal install on USB with savfile.
Press 'Save' icon on the desktop.
Yelow splash pops up but never disappears unless you click the splash.

Remove /usr/X11R7/bin/yaf-splash. It can not anyway display UTF-8 characters.
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Grub4dosconfig help file

#3026 Post by shinobar »

@playdayz
I realized Grub4dosconfig help file missing in Lupu-515.
There should be /usr/share/doc/help/C/grub4dosconfig.html.

Well... /usr/share/doc/ is too much shaved?
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Re: yaf-splash

#3027 Post by Sylvander »

shinobar wrote:Remove /usr/X11R7/bin/yaf-splash. It can not anyway display UTF-8 characters.
Is this an instruction to users, or a suggestion to developers?
Are we users to do this?

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#3028 Post by ICPUG »

I don't think renaming grub4dos to grub is a good idea.

To the knowledgeable ones grub implies grub legacy and would cause confusion. Indeed, before grub2, grub legacy WAS grub.

I am not sure we should rename grub4dos at all. Its creator called it grub4dos and perhaps we should respect that - how would you like it if someone packaged Lucid Puppy and called it GooglePup for instance!

If we must rename it, then puppygrub or grub4pup is perhaps an approach but somewhere it must be clear that grub4pup is grub4dos so that anyone who has problems or needs further info knows what to investigate. If its named grub they will be sent on a false trail investigating grub legacy.

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Re: 515 locale again

#3029 Post by shinobar »

Béèm wrote:The era started purple with 246 and continues to be purple.
But I start to turn red as I have again an issue with locales.
I thought this had been taken care of, but it's there again.

Code: Select all

# fixmenus
Generating /root/.icewm/menu...
Generating /root/.jwmrc...
Generating /root/.fbpanel/default...
killall: blinky_tray: no process killed
killall: traytemp: no process killed
killall: vattery: no process killed

(process:31428): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

(process:31428): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
	Using the fallback 'C' locale.

(process:31464): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
	Using the fallback 'C' locale.

(process:31477): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
	Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Cannot read file: /root/.retrovolrc
Using defaults...

(process:31483): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
	Using the fallback 'C' locale.

(process:31490): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
	Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Generating /root/.config/openbox/menu.xml...
Openbox-Message: Couldn't set locale from environment.
# 
looks there is regression. :cry:
Confirmed.
It is an issue of the firstrun.
If you select nl_BE@euro, the firstrun('Personalize Settings' or 'Countrywizard') offers UTF-8 as the default, but the nl_BE@euro.UTF-8 is not supported by libc nor Xlib.
Allowed locales:
  • nl_BE
  • nl_BE@euro
  • nl_BE.UTF-8
Please tick off the 'UTF-8' checkbox if you want nl_BE@euro.
Though i recommend nl_BE.UTF-8.
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Re: yaf-splash

#3030 Post by shinobar »

Sylvander wrote:
shinobar wrote:Remove /usr/X11R7/bin/yaf-splash. It can not anyway display UTF-8 characters.
Is this an instruction to users, or a suggestion to developers?
Are we users to do this?
I intended for playdayz to do so, but also for the testers try it and see side effects.
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#3031 Post by cthisbear »

Version 515 problems:

WPA2-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 with Pre-Shared Key)

/////////////

I had an Asus to fix so I tested Luci515, Fluppy 006 and 009.

""""""

Asus M51SN laptop

Networking

Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet >> works
10/100/1000Base-T (10/100/1000MBit),

Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
(abgn), 2.0 Bluetooth

Lucid 515 reports the wifi but won't connect with it.

This is with the Netgear settings ....

WPA2-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 with Pre-Shared Key)
Netgear router uses a hidden wireless network.

The name is split, HIDDEN....and it has 15 keys.

"""""""""

Installing Pwireless2 and my cheating won't work either.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 222#471222

I gave it a real good workover.
The router blinks, winks and sends me all the good vibes.
I can see the hidden network...but no Connectee..

So sadly Lucid gives me nothing on this 4 wireless.

Remarkably both Fluppy versions see no wireless at all.

If anything in Puppy needs working on it is the Network Manager
We need more settings....more consistency.

This is not to take away or rubbish the fine contributions by our
gurus here on the forum.

But wireless is going to get more use and more users.
We are kidding ourselves otherwise.

Sadly....even Windows 7 is easier to get any wireless security working.
We are not talking drivers...but ease of connection.
It used to be crap on XP and Vista.
That's why you needed the free Network Magic....old version.

"""""""""""""

My Security Options >> Netgear

WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy)

WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key)

WPA2-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 with Pre-Shared Key)

Mixed WPA-PSK+WPA2-PSK

WPA-802.1x

/////////////

I would like to say that I like the default wallpaper.
My usb install booted perfectly.
515 seems quite quick.

It detected the sound on the Asus.

If you could tweak wireless...it would be the Antz Pantz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU59Vq-nxjg

Chris.

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#3032 Post by tubeguy »

Lobster wrote:
liked that
Started optimising and got the enclosed which should be neutral and unobtrusive, display even black text, use the logo and version number and only 19k
Sweet!
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Re: yaf-splash

#3033 Post by Sylvander »

shinobar wrote:Remove /usr/X11R7/bin/yaf-splash. It can not anyway display UTF-8 characters.
................<snip>.................
I intended for playdayz to do so, but also for the testers try it and see side effects.
That worked! :D

So far I see no nasty side-effects. 8)

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#3034 Post by playdayz »

@playdayz
I realized Grub4dosconfig help file missing in Lupu-515.
There should be /usr/share/doc/help/C/grub4dosconfig.html.

Well... /usr/share/doc/ is too much shaved?
Yes, too much shaved.

Will get yaf-splash.

Thanks for the advice to Beem.

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Re: grub4dos vs. legacy grub

#3035 Post by glenco »

shinobar wrote:
James C wrote:if it's not included those who prefer grub will need to install Lucid and then boot something else to install Grub.
Any applications someone prefer but not built in the distribution have a chance to get them from the PPM or the web.
(You need not boot up another distribution.)
As for the legacy grub, you can install ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... untu53.pet.

My question is in what case you need it?
Old version of grub4dos made incorrect entry for Ubuntu, but the recent version of grub4dos has no problem.
shinobar

I saw no option in that grub4dos menu to install grug4dos to the superblock of the linux partition that puppy is being installed to.
It seems that it’s a matter of wiping out my Windows created MBR or not have puppy bootable in the partition that it was installed to. In my case it would be /dev/sda3.
You see I must have windows control the MBR because I use PLOP boot manager in my windows XP Pro boot.ini so I can boot from the USB ports when needed.
This DELL Lattitude P4 1.8Ghz machine has NO option in the bios to boot from USB anything!
Many older DELL’s have this problem and PLOP handles it quite nicely. Including booting Puppy off a USB stick or even a PCMCIA memory card. PLOP rocks!!
Thumbs DOWN to GRUB4DOS

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Re: grub4dos vs. legacy grub

#3036 Post by shinobar »

glenco wrote:I saw no option in that grub4dos menu to install grug4dos to the superblock of the linux partition that puppy is being installed to.
Thanks, glenco.
Right. The Grub4dos itself can be installed on the superblock of the partition(PBR) but the grub4dosconfig does not support at this point of time.

But still i cannot understand.
In your case, both legecy Grub nor Grub4Dos cannot but only PLOP can, isn't it?
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#3037 Post by glenco »

shinobar

Puppy’s original universal installer gives you the option to install grub to:
First: to a floppy “Safe"
Second: to the SUPERBLOCK of the linux partition “Safe

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#3038 Post by James C »

Just in the interest of testing, yet another frugal install of Lupu-515 ,this time on the old P4 test box.Everything working on initial boot and still working.

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PLOP and Grub4Dos

#3039 Post by shinobar »

glenco wrote:When I install puppy I install grub to the SUPERBLOCK of the partition that I am installing that version of puppy to. So when I choose PLOP at windows boot menu I get a list of ALL partitions and I choose the partition I want to boot to. From there I get the grub boot menu that was installed to that partition.
Now i see why you need the bootloader on the superblock(PBR).
Your booting sequence:
ntrldr --> PLOP --> grub
EDIT: in this case i guess you can use syslinux or extlinux instead of grub.

I supposed next sequence, need not PBR:
ntrldr --> Grub4Dos --> PLOP

Anyway i will support PLOP and hopefully PBR install in future release of the Grub4DosConfig.
Thanks glenco for the information.
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#3040 Post by smokey01 »

ICPUG wrote:I don't think renaming grub4dos to grub is a good idea.

To the knowledgeable ones grub implies grub legacy and would cause confusion. Indeed, before grub2, grub legacy WAS grub.

I am not sure we should rename grub4dos at all. Its creator called it grub4dos and perhaps we should respect that - how would you like it if someone packaged Lucid Puppy and called it GooglePup for instance!

If we must rename it, then puppygrub or grub4pup is perhaps an approach but somewhere it must be clear that grub4pup is grub4dos so that anyone who has problems or needs further info knows what to investigate. If its named grub they will be sent on a false trail investigating grub legacy.
Why not something really simple like Pgrub.

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