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emil · Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 628 Location: Austria

Hello shinobar,

thanks lots for the savefileconfig implementation. I tested it yesterday with a frugal install and it worked flawless for me. I just want to share 2 thoughts that I have. Those are just ideas, no critics and I would like to know what you and maybe others think.

Firstly, would it be an idea to make a simpler "standard" interface and give the Option to call the detailed Menu as "expert" or "advanced".
The "standard" would just offer to create a standard savefile in the same directory of the lupy-511.sfs (I'm not sure about to handle Live CD Mode).
I think new users to puppy linux could be a bit overwhelmed with options and puppy specific terminology.

The second idea is about the Windows installation on NTFS. I had the windows installer discussed a bit on the Sage forum. The myth that Linux can't handle the NTFS filesystem properly seems persistent. Would it be possible that the savefileconfig recognises a premade "blank" savefile (lets say with name blank_savefile.img" and if it finds such a file offers the possibility to use it (rename and mke2fs ...). Then it would be possible that the windows installer creates all puppy files, sort of a "paranoid" mode.

thanks you again,
emil

jemimah · Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL

Shinobar,

I've had a request for an option to automatically make a backup of the save file on shutdown (or startup, but I think shutdown is easier to implement).

Are you interested in coding this? Or will you merge my patches if I do it? I want to avoid having to patch the shutdown script every time you release an update. Smile

shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2646 Location: Japan

jemimah · Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL

It needs to be in either the init script or the shutdown script because the save file must be unmounted before copying.

It should be as simple as "cp pupsave.2fs pupsave.2fs.bak" as long as you do it after the unmount. Most of the work is adding the configuration options.

shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2646 Location: Japan

8-bit · Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3425 Location: Oregon

When you talk about incorporating a backup for pupsave's, why reinvent the wheel.
There is already Snap2 and Hotbackup.
I personally use Hotbackup that checks available space, allows one to choose drive/ partition/ directory etc. and even does a file system check of the backup file created.

Hot backup can be found here.

jpeps · Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 3217

IMHO automatic pupsave backups are a bad idea, other than the auto session backups now in effect. Often something like a broken cups isn't readily noticed, and the danger would be that the unbroken pupsave backup would be copied over. If anything, eliminating all automatic backups seems like a better idea.

Pupsaves shouldn't need to be backed up very often, unlike specific files or directories that might get backed up after every use.

don570 · Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 4380 Location: Ontario

I have some grammar tips:

'English' must be capitalized

Better to use 'want' than 'like'

'alphanumeric' is usually spelled as one word in North America

The word 'Click' sounds better than the word 'Press' even though
they mean the same thing.

Instead of 'Heavy encrypted' use 'Strong encryption' 'Heavy encryption'
or 'Heavily encrypted'

I corrected some windows with red ink that you should see
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-a130d865.html

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Have you thought about creating a history log file of previous
activity. It would be a professional feature!

Just click on an icon to bring up the log file.
It would list info like:

size of save file
where?
Name of file
filetype i.e. ext2
encryption
comments: (Why was it created)
Was it initial?
Time of composition of settings
Actual time of saving
Errors

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shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2646 Location: Japan

Thanks don. I will fix them in next release.

BTW, pupsaveconfig-1.9.4 is now built in Fluppy 010 thanks to jemimah. Exclamation

You can test the pupsaveconfig really working.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56156

Béèm · Posted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 06:37 Post subject:

I discovered indeed this pupsave gui in Fluppy 010.
Nice to have all entries to be filled in on one screen.

I use a minimal save size, 32MB, which isn't selectable, but I can change it by hand in the proper field to fill in.

However, I can't indicate to which partition I want to create the save file.
I alwasy set it to /mnt/sda2 which becomes /mnt/home then, but it went to /mnt/sda1 which I only use to boot from (Lin'N'Win method) I don't want my XP partition (/mnt/sda1) to be mounted all the time.
This is more annoying as it forces me to do moving the file by hand.

Could a partition selection be provided also?
(as is in the regular save dialogs)

shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2646 Location: Japan

Béèm · Posted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 18:00 Post subject: Re: partition selection

shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2646 Location: Japan

Béèm · Posted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 19:13 Post subject: Re: partition selection

jemimah · Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL

It seems heavy encryption does not work - I haven't tested light encryption yet.
It gives an error about an incorrect password when creating the save file. Both the GUI and Legacy scripts are broken.

Also it shouldn't let you create an encrypted save file with any filesystem execept ext2 - journaling apparently causes a problem with the encryption.