Dpup revisited
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Nice feature list, but I wonder why udf is always left out.ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Jim this version was based before 484, it was the 476. I don't think it had ext4 added to it. Here's a list of Gparted features.Jim1911 wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,
I had no problem running dpup-484 on an ext4 partition formatted with dpup's gparted. I ran both a full hd installation and a frugal installation with journaled 3fs save file. Gposil was one of the earliest supporters of an ext4 file system. Please don't drop dpup support of ext4 partitions.
Cheers,
Jim
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Would be nice to be able write to CD/DVD RW media as if it where a HDD.
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Thanks for the responses guys, on page one I have a Voters Question. Please vote, its up for 5 days, And only users of this version of Dpup please vote, since really ts about how flash plays with Dpup and Seamonkey/Firefox
Ps No I don't have a penguin baby suite, Wish I did
Never seen one for sale either
ttuuxxx
Ps No I don't have a penguin baby suite, Wish I did
Never seen one for sale either
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Hi James
yes I voted for Firefox also, its just has a lot more useful plugins and themes. But I could live with either or, If Seamonkey wins then I'll retheme it.
The next vote will be, should I expand the apps to more of gnome backend or reduce the iso size by removing them and stick to a traditional backend
gnome backend would be more like
epdf <--puppy
evince<-- gnome
Gaculator<-- puppy
Gcalctool <--Gnome
small game <-- puppy
Gweled <--Gnome
lxtask<-- puppy
Gnome Task Manager <-- Gnome
jwm <-- puppy
MetaCity and some panel plus jwm as a alternative <--Gnome
The Gnome apps are way better quality, but at the price of a larger gnome library backend In dpup, This version of dpup currently doesn't run in ram on 128mb systems, where as 2.14x still does, I'm not sure if once I delete one of the two browsers if it will then run in ram or not, probably I would think so. If I reduce the gnome backend in Dpup, I might be able to reduce the overall size by about 10-15MB compressed, but It wouldn't be able to use the Debian repo, due to so many Debian Gnome libs would be removed, but the iso would be around 110-115MB.
ttuuxxx
yes I voted for Firefox also, its just has a lot more useful plugins and themes. But I could live with either or, If Seamonkey wins then I'll retheme it.
The next vote will be, should I expand the apps to more of gnome backend or reduce the iso size by removing them and stick to a traditional backend
gnome backend would be more like
epdf <--puppy
evince<-- gnome
Gaculator<-- puppy
Gcalctool <--Gnome
small game <-- puppy
Gweled <--Gnome
lxtask<-- puppy
Gnome Task Manager <-- Gnome
jwm <-- puppy
MetaCity and some panel plus jwm as a alternative <--Gnome
The Gnome apps are way better quality, but at the price of a larger gnome library backend In dpup, This version of dpup currently doesn't run in ram on 128mb systems, where as 2.14x still does, I'm not sure if once I delete one of the two browsers if it will then run in ram or not, probably I would think so. If I reduce the gnome backend in Dpup, I might be able to reduce the overall size by about 10-15MB compressed, but It wouldn't be able to use the Debian repo, due to so many Debian Gnome libs would be removed, but the iso would be around 110-115MB.
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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dpup476-03 - copy 3 files to a directory and grub boot.
I'm with dejan. this version has bugs that are already fixed. mostly i avoid this going backwards stuff and the re-finding old bugs, but for you ttuuxxx i make an exception.
ath5 module needed for my wifi and many other newer laptop isn't working. stopped there and was going to junk it but will persist if you do delta file upgrades.
mainly i wanted to test for the blackscreen freeze that started first with dpup. it didn't happen in the few minutes i use it, but will need wifi connection to go do further . yes i know there are pets to get the wifi going but I'll wait till it is in the main iso.
as for the browser i wont be using either firefox or seamonkey so it is MB's i don't need. opera for me. my vote would be for a small basic browser then user choice download of main browser as in other puppies.
but i go with jemimahs do-ocracy idea, the person doing the work makes the key decisions.
best of luck and congrats with the new mini-ttuuxxx
I'm with dejan. this version has bugs that are already fixed. mostly i avoid this going backwards stuff and the re-finding old bugs, but for you ttuuxxx i make an exception.
ath5 module needed for my wifi and many other newer laptop isn't working. stopped there and was going to junk it but will persist if you do delta file upgrades.
mainly i wanted to test for the blackscreen freeze that started first with dpup. it didn't happen in the few minutes i use it, but will need wifi connection to go do further . yes i know there are pets to get the wifi going but I'll wait till it is in the main iso.
as for the browser i wont be using either firefox or seamonkey so it is MB's i don't need. opera for me. my vote would be for a small basic browser then user choice download of main browser as in other puppies.
but i go with jemimahs do-ocracy idea, the person doing the work makes the key decisions.
best of luck and congrats with the new mini-ttuuxxx
Ralink RT2561/61 appears not to be supported
Hi ttuuxxx & all;
I'm currently posting from Lupu 520. I downloaded the dpup476.iso, unpacked necessary files into its own directory, modified grub4dos and rebooted. Booted fine, but the first thing I do is see if I can access the internet as I'm on wireless. Lupu ( and others) recognize my controller as being Ralink RT2561/61. dpup476's network wizard only recognizes my ethernet port. Loading each of the included drivers disclosed no active network. On the off chance that the RT pet developed for 2.14x might help, I installed it. No wireless networks were located. Until I can connect to the internet, this is a show stopper.
Because the "old" network wizard sometimes is inaccurate, I also tried pwireless and Frisbee. Neither showed an active network.
mikesLr
I'm currently posting from Lupu 520. I downloaded the dpup476.iso, unpacked necessary files into its own directory, modified grub4dos and rebooted. Booted fine, but the first thing I do is see if I can access the internet as I'm on wireless. Lupu ( and others) recognize my controller as being Ralink RT2561/61. dpup476's network wizard only recognizes my ethernet port. Loading each of the included drivers disclosed no active network. On the off chance that the RT pet developed for 2.14x might help, I installed it. No wireless networks were located. Until I can connect to the internet, this is a show stopper.
Because the "old" network wizard sometimes is inaccurate, I also tried pwireless and Frisbee. Neither showed an active network.
mikesLr
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Ttuuxxx, good luck with your new babies (human and penguin)
As far as I remember Quickpet was developed by Mick to be
Puplet/wooflet independent. Would it work with a non woof built dpup?
Could not find the right link for that but maybe these tools are of use . . .
http://users.tpg.com.au/01micko/01mickos_tools.html
The latest PPM code is very good and may be sufficient?
Ttuuxxx I seem to remember from using Guys dpup you are using, that it had no Flash video viewing problems that have surfaced (for me) in Puppy Lucid 5.2
I also wonder if some of these will work in dpup?
http://portablelinuxapps.org/
These are the ones working with Lucid (as a guide)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 865#489865
Puppy Linux
Our Baby
As far as I remember Quickpet was developed by Mick to be
Puplet/wooflet independent. Would it work with a non woof built dpup?
Could not find the right link for that but maybe these tools are of use . . .
http://users.tpg.com.au/01micko/01mickos_tools.html
The latest PPM code is very good and may be sufficient?
Ttuuxxx I seem to remember from using Guys dpup you are using, that it had no Flash video viewing problems that have surfaced (for me) in Puppy Lucid 5.2
I also wonder if some of these will work in dpup?
http://portablelinuxapps.org/
These are the ones working with Lucid (as a guide)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 865#489865
Puppy Linux
Our Baby
put this wifi driver into dpup but still cannot see a wifi interface.http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 166#242166 cant find any other drivers to try.
pupdail works over my phone.
pupdail works over my phone.
aarf that is my experience too.
Here is what did happen to me when I had linux on USB. Some 75 different Distro versions one by one using Unetboot in from Windows and made new install to the USB mostly live isos.
Then trying to boot up on my Acer D250 when it was newly bought.
Some distros shut down the ethernet card during the probe they do while booting.
So the only way to get that ethernet card booting in other linuxes that had been able to see just minutes ago and now did not see it the solution was to shut the os down to halt and then pull the power plug and take out the battery and let it rest long enough to forget about the abusive distro.
Then sometimes I even had to boot up one time in windows for to activate the ethernet card so it could be used by other distros.
It was that sensitive to the wrong distros doing something that shut the ethernet card down so it got invisible despite one had the right drivers. they found not device. Not listed even .
Very weird behavior. So who knows if that is what happens to you?
Here is what did happen to me when I had linux on USB. Some 75 different Distro versions one by one using Unetboot in from Windows and made new install to the USB mostly live isos.
Then trying to boot up on my Acer D250 when it was newly bought.
Some distros shut down the ethernet card during the probe they do while booting.
So the only way to get that ethernet card booting in other linuxes that had been able to see just minutes ago and now did not see it the solution was to shut the os down to halt and then pull the power plug and take out the battery and let it rest long enough to forget about the abusive distro.
Then sometimes I even had to boot up one time in windows for to activate the ethernet card so it could be used by other distros.
It was that sensitive to the wrong distros doing something that shut the ethernet card down so it got invisible despite one had the right drivers. they found not device. Not listed even .
Very weird behavior. So who knows if that is what happens to you?
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not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
Yes that is how it appears hear too but sometimes some distros actually shut the ethernet card and wifi card so they become invisible even to windows despite them being there just minutes ago. I trust it is some kind of defence against destruction and one need to make the computer forget that it should keep them shut down but letting the inner memory discharge by taking out all power to the Mobo.
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not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
see next post.
I am taking a break from the difficult to get going distros.
I found an easy going one based on Slax. It is from China and named
CDLinux. Boot frugally and it just works. Rather lite to have so much that works. I can mount my NTFS HDD which very few distros do.
TCL did not. Neither did AntiX and Swift did not either. SuperOS failed too.
But CDLinux just worked from out of the box. Does Swedish ÅÄÖ too.
It plays streaming video and do youtube.
The only thing lacking is the IPtables set to Accept instead of Drop so that is bad.
Another bad thing is that support is only in Chinese. Apart from their FAQ.
which did not help me set up the iptables. But apart from that it is what I I've been looking for for a long time.
I am taking a break from the difficult to get going distros.
I found an easy going one based on Slax. It is from China and named
CDLinux. Boot frugally and it just works. Rather lite to have so much that works. I can mount my NTFS HDD which very few distros do.
TCL did not. Neither did AntiX and Swift did not either. SuperOS failed too.
But CDLinux just worked from out of the box. Does Swedish ÅÄÖ too.
It plays streaming video and do youtube.
The only thing lacking is the IPtables set to Accept instead of Drop so that is bad.
Another bad thing is that support is only in Chinese. Apart from their FAQ.
which did not help me set up the iptables. But apart from that it is what I I've been looking for for a long time.
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not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
See Dpup 487 renewed 2015.
See Dpup 487 renewed 2015.
Once upon a time (2012) i burn Puppies on CD-RW.
I am checking my Juke-box. Dpup484 was fine. But Dpup 487 2015 would be better.
I am remasterizing it with ... Slacko 5.7, and all is going "comme sur des roulettes" !
Remaster your best Puppies, as black and white movies are colorized to give them a new youth.
Once upon a time (2012) i burn Puppies on CD-RW.
I am checking my Juke-box. Dpup484 was fine. But Dpup 487 2015 would be better.
I am remasterizing it with ... Slacko 5.7, and all is going "comme sur des roulettes" !
Remaster your best Puppies, as black and white movies are colorized to give them a new youth.
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