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nancy reagan · Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 501

why not use this ready made tool ?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60678

Sylvander · Posted: Sun 27 Feb 2011, 12:15 Post subject:

Because that tool doesn't give you the option "to save or not to save" at shutdown?

With the arrangement I presently use...
I can choose to save manually at some chosen point in time DURING THE SESSION...
And then:
Either choose to NOT SAVE after that, not even at shut-down/reboot.
OR...
I might go to shut-down, and suddenly realise I NEED to save during shut-down.

nancy reagan · Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 501

Sylvander · Posted: Sun 27 Feb 2011, 17:02 Post subject:

OK, I'll try installing it in Wary-511, and see how it goes. Very Happy

I'm back.
Did that...
And the program warned me that I already had a pupsave made and in use, and gave me only the option to close the program.
So I guess it would be necessary to scrap my existing pupsave, lose all the work invested in that, begin afresh.
I'll think about it, but doubt if I'd want to begin again.
I'll try it with the next new Puppy that comes along.

sergey · Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 6

Setting pmedia=usbflash does not work in the latest Puppy
versions I use -- Lighthouse 500-G, Quirky 1.4, Wary5.1.1

Puppy doesnt boot: can't find media -- it must be looking
for a USB something, because it spends some time looking.

I'm using Grub so I applied your suggestion in menu.lst and
tried all variations in syntax based on Grub's README,
For example, on kernel line using (hd0,1)/quirky140.

My method of setting PUPSTATE=5 described in my earlier post
has worked in Lighthouse, Quirky, and Wary for months for me.
It's easy although lacking the characteristic s-m-o-o-t-h,
elegance of Puppy operations.

BTW, Wary 5.1.1 is very fast to reboot, which saved me
lots of time as I rebooted dozens of times for these
experiments.

Zaven · Joined: 13 Mar 2011 Posts: 6

My hardware solution: usb flash drives w/ electronic write protect switch

login123 · Joined: 22 Jun 2010 Posts: 9

I have been using the configuration described in the first post for puppy 525 .
- It has worked OK since then.
- Nothing saves at shutdown.
- The unclean shutdown warning indeed seems to be harmless.
- Anytime you do want to save something, just click the save to flash bullseye (I renamed that bullseye)
- It's the simplest solution I have seen, just rem out 3 lines of code.

Attached is a screenshot.

Anybody else tried it yet?

Bruce B · Posted: Thu 12 May 2011, 14:51 Post subject:

I wrote the file /etc/.XLOADED with the data false with no line end.
(that's how Puppy writes it)

Then set it as immutable. Puppy can't write to it any more. I've been
doing this for a long time. It eliminates any unwanted dialogs.

~

Bruce B

Mechanic_Kharkov · Joined: 24 Jul 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Kharkov, Ukraine

Thanks!
To handle subj in my setup (boot from CD, save file on flash sda1) I have made following three steps:

1. Prevented scheduled saves by setting Save_interval=0 in Menu / System / Puppy Event Manager / Save Session;

2. Edited /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown file and changed default behavior with this one:

Code:

dialog --timeout 10 --yesno 'Save this session?
(or just wait 10 sec to save)' 0 0 >/dev/console
if [ $? -eq 1 ];then
echo "Session saving cancelled" >/dev/console
else
echo "Saving session to $SAVEFILE (${SAVEPART})..." >/dev/console
/usr/sbin/snapmergepuppy /initrd/pup_ro1 /initrd/pup_rw
fi

3. Edited /usr/bin/xwin file to replace default 30 second timeout with 3 seconds one. (when "X seems have exited uncleanly.." appears).

And now I'm quite happy with results.
Thanks to Sylvander and others who posted to clarify the question!

login123 · Joined: 22 Jun 2010 Posts: 9

Hi, Mechanic_Kharkov. A question, if I may?

Does the "X seems have exited uncleanly.." message still appear the next time puppy is started? Thanks. Interesting setup you have, btw.

Mechanic_Kharkov · Joined: 24 Jul 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Kharkov, Ukraine

login123 · Joined: 22 Jun 2010 Posts: 9

Thank you. Very informative reply. I'm sorry to not know much about that odd boot difference. The reason I asked that question about the warning is that if I failed to click on "Ignore" during bootup, then the usb stick wouldn't boot next time. That is, if I remember rightly.

Sylvander · Posted: Thu 04 Aug 2011, 01:59 Post subject:

1. "Yes. It's still here. But it's here for a little time now."
How to prevent the spurious warning as a pupsave installation of Puppy boots, that the previous shut-down was improper.

2. "Also note on Scr2 that there is still "Save" button on the screen"
It's like your Puppy thinks your pupsave is on a Flash Drive.
Perhaps it's been configured [by changing a config setting in a file in the ISO used to make the optical disk?] to treat the pupsave as though it's on a Flash Drive; did you perhaps use this method to do that?

3. For background info see this.

SimpleWater · Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 95

I used this method, and works nice, but not guaranteed. It does save on certain situations. I think restarting X is one of them.