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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:49    Post subject: Re: Puppy Arcade 10 runs very slow  

jukingeo wrote:
Hello all,

I had just set up Puppy Arcade 10 on a USB flash drive set to automatically boot on any machine. I have set it up to play Mame arcade games.

Now, while the booting part works great, the trouble I am having is that the games play slower than they should. I have SDLMame for comparison and it runs much faster there.

Would anyone know what would be the cause of the problem?

Thank You,

Geo

You may need to enable OpenGL for improved performance on your machine.
Links for OpenGL can be found here in the main post.

You could also try changing the video output from or to "Xvideo"

Also, you can use the frameskip option to skip frames when the game slows down.

You can disable sound to improve speeds if nothing else works.

All these options can be found in the SDLMAME conifg file, (in /root, double click on it to open it)..
Or in the Settings menus for SDLMAME, GXMAME and/or MAMEPGUI (depending on which you are using)

Hope this helps.

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DJ Whelan

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 12:19    Post subject:  

Hi Guys,

So as you can see I`m new to puppy linux forum Laughing

Anyway I stumbled across puppy arcade 10 few days ago and I must
Say very impressed - havn`t used it properly yet... but it got me thinkig
I want to start a mini arcade project so here`s my idea tell me what you Think...

I bought one of these today.. Laughing

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280637062895&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123

And I have one of these..

http://www.compactpc.com.tw/ebox-4300.htm

Just need to find a LCD screen then I`m goner biuld a cabinet around the
Joy stick... a nice bartop style arcade using puppy arcade 10
Also for now the ebox will have a 8gb CF card it does have a hdd port Though... if I wish to upgrade.

Let me know if you think I`m on the right track

DJ Whelan Cool
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 07:29    Post subject: WELCOME  

Quote:
Hi Guys,

So as you can see I'm new to puppy linux forum Laughing

Welcome! Hope you will enjoy Puppy Arcade, any problems with it, let me know on this thread, and I will do my best to help you. Everyone is pretty helpful around here... Very Happy

Quote:
Anyway I stumbled across puppy arcade 10 few days ago and I must
Say very impressed - haven't used it properly yet... but it got me thinking
I want to start a mini arcade project so here`s my idea tell me what you Think...

Glad you like it Very Happy May I ask, where did you find it?

Quote:
I bought one of these today.. Laughing

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280637062895&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123

And I have one of these..

http://www.compactpc.com.tw/ebox-4300.htm

...the ebox will have a 8gb CF card it does have a hdd port Though... if I wish to upgrade.

Let me know if you think I`m on the right track

DJ Whelan Cool

Well, it sounds great... I never got around to making a separate little arcade box, but would still love to... The hardware choices look fine, I may go for a better CPU - but only to play some (mainly the PSX and N64) games more speedily and nicely.

As far as RAM goes, anything over 256mb should work nicely, at 256mb and below, it may be a little slower.

Anyway, one of the major 'issues' you will face is to get OpenGL (3d acceleration) working correctly - I was careful in my emulator choice to make sure this is only required for N64 games... However, all systems will work nicer once OpenGL is working, as well as Adobe Flash video (youtube, etc)..

Choosing the right driver for your gfx chip/card is the hardest part, installing them is usually very easy. Apparently, you need the MESA package for your gfx chip.

So to enable 3D acceleration (OpenGL.. aka DRI), try the MESA package.. If it doesnt work, try the xorg_xorg_full_dri.pet...

These packages can be found here:

- OpenGL Drivers - Nvidia - http://download.tuxfamily.org/nop/
- OpenGL Drivers - ATI, others - http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48019
- Xorg DRI (may include MESA) - http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/xorg_xorg_dri-7.3-1.pet or http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet
- Other Drivers - wifi, etc: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34159
- MESA (I think) - http://puppyisos.org/isos/2009-01-to-06/Newyearspup02/tests/xorg-1.6.3-upgrade-vesa-ati-intel-mesa/xorg-1.6.3-upgrade-vesa-intel-2.8.1-mesa-7.5.1-02.pet (user=puppy,pass=linux)

However, I may be wrong, but gfx your card (VIA UniChrome), may not be supported... read here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=379741#379741.. (But this might not apply to Puppy Arcade 10... It has a slightly newer Xorg..)

About installing Puppy Arcade to your CF card, I would use the 'Frugal Installer' in Menu->Setup, as it is the simplest method, and fairly automatic (just click next a lot and usually you are fine)..
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 08:26    Post subject:  

Thanks for your reply - well I started using puppy linux good few months
Ago just put it on a USB to carry around with me - its great to just take Over a computer Like in work Smile

To be honest I pretty pants with linux lol,
How I found Arcade 10 when I was constantly looking up how to make Mini arcade cabinets ect... and just stumbled across it - I said to myself How did I miss this when I`m already using puppy - its because I never Really came into the forums Rolling Eyes lol

Anyway there`s a few options I can take I have a acer aspire revo 3610
With daul core 1.6 atom 4gb of ram and thats small to or Stripping down
My acer aspire one netbook 1.6 single core 1.5gb ram.... and of course the ebox 4300.. or just buy a ITX bundle from somewhere Wink

I`m going to use google sketchup to design the cabinet I think,
If I can get use to it lol

Anyway thanks for your comments and I will be asking questions no doubt

P.S is there anyway of stripping Acrcade 10 down even more?

DJ Whelan Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 05:52    Post subject:  

DJ Whelan wrote:
P.S is there anyway of stripping Acrcade 10 down even more?

DJ Whelan Very Happy

I recommend 'Woofy' for beginners.
Newest version (much improved) found here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57037

To delete stuff, you need to supply a text file, containing a list of files to delete.
The list must contain full paths, and no empty lines.

Here is a post that discusses a couple of easy ways to build the list:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=501301#501301

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 11:07    Post subject:  

Ok thanks for the info Smile

This would work better than the EBOX 4300 if I up the RAM a bit

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250781845831&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123
What you reckon sc0ttman?

Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 11:48    Post subject:  

DJ Whelan wrote:
Ok thanks for the info Smile

This would work better than the EBOX 4300 if I up the RAM a bit

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250781845831&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123
What you reckon sc0ttman?

Cheers
David Wink

Hmm... Looks powerful enough, whether or not the hardware support is good is beyond me. Should be *mostly* OK, I guess, nothing too exotic in there..

Again, for the on board graphics chip, OpenGL support may be touch n go... But for that price, is worth a go!


As I'm not a hardware expert, and I haven't tested Puppy 4.2 (or any other Pup) on that system, I would send him a message and tell him you're desperately hoping it supports Puppy Arcade.. He may check it out... Get him to download it and boot it if possible! (Although any Puppy 4.2 would be a fine test)...

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 12:39    Post subject:  

Cheers for your help

I`m scouring ebay trying to get a low cost system with just enough
Power - I notice this has a Via C3 Nehemiah CPU which I dont think is that great..

Keep looking I guess lol Cool
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 04:55    Post subject:  

This will do the job lovely I reckon - as my acer aspire one netbook is a Atom N270 single core and plays psone and n64 ok need to double check though lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290542498454&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

DJ Whelan Cool
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:47    Post subject:  

Can`t decide lol

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 12:14    Post subject:  

DJ Whelan wrote:
Can`t decide lol

DJ Whelan

I think the mini ITX box will be fine, with a little extra RAM... I'd go with that as a base. But the other is, of course, more powerful - but if you're only gonna be running MAME, etc, then the mini ITX box would be enough..

Hmm.. That's not very conclusive, is it? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 17:42    Post subject:  

What I`m goner do is wait till the Arcade stick comes through then decide,
Hope its soon though can`t wait Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2011, 20:24    Post subject:  Puppy Arcade 10  

NICE Puplet! I looked into this 2 years ago but never really tested it fully. I have 2 issues =

1. Pwireless doesn't detect my WiFi card (?)

2. USB Mouse doesn't scroll?


(I'm running it on a stock Acer Aspire 5315 Laptop)

Apart from that TOP Puplet!!!! Wink

Any Ideas/help would be greatly appriciated, thanks for all your hard work.

Puppy forever!!!!! Laughing Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Mar 2011, 05:52    Post subject:  

Well me joystick turned up so its now time to design the Cabinet - nice And tiny arcade Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Mar 2011, 17:44    Post subject:  

1. Pwireless doesn't detect my WiFi card (?)

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65742

A convoluted way...but it often works.

Boot Puppy >>> puppy pfix=ram

so you don't screw up while testing.

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Mice are cheap. Buy a generic one.

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